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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 7:52:45 GMT -5
This guys only real client was the President he appears to be fully engaged in a lot of sketchy activities...
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Post by TC on May 8, 2018 10:28:36 GMT -5
I listened to David Axelrod's podcast with Michael Avenutti yesterday - one of the more interesting parts was his belief that the Michael Cohen $1.6M payoff for a playboy model abortion on behalf of Elliott Broidy may not have been on behalf of Elliott Broidy. His evidence is pretty interesting - Broidy was not named by Cohen's lawyers as a client of Cohen when they released the names of his clients in court, and Broidy had no prior relationship to Michael Cohen. Cohen's clients were Trump, the Trump Organization, and Sean Hannity. That'll be a whole other ball of worms, especially when you consider the tactics that Cohen uses. nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-with-trump-not-broidy.htmlWhen it all comes out that the President bullied a playboy model into having an abortion and taking a payoff through his fixer, had a campaign donor pay for it and then floated him as the cover story father in exchange for defense contracts, I'm very interested in where evangelicals and conservative Catholics are going to land on all this. Oh wait, I do know where they'll land. Solidly behind him because they hate immigrants.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 11:08:06 GMT -5
I listened to David Axelrod's podcast with Michael Avenutti yesterday - one of the more interesting parts was his belief that the Michael Cohen $1.6M payoff for a playboy model abortion on behalf of Elliott Broidy may not have been on behalf of Elliott Broidy. His evidence is pretty interesting - Broidy was not named by Cohen's lawyers as a client of Cohen when they released the names of his clients in court, and Broidy had no prior relationship to Michael Cohen. Cohen's clients were Trump, the Trump Organization, and Sean Hannity. That'll be a whole other ball of worms, especially when you consider the tactics that Cohen uses. nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-with-trump-not-broidy.htmlWhen it all comes out that the President bullied a playboy model into having an abortion and taking a payoff through his fixer, had a campaign donor pay for it and then floated him as the cover story father in exchange for defense contracts, I'm very interested in where evangelicals and conservative Catholics are going to land on all this. Oh wait, I do know where they'll land. Solidly behind him because they hate immigrants. Example.... Franklin_Graham, 1998 - WSJ Franklin_Graham, 2018 -
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Post by hoyarooter on May 8, 2018 19:41:22 GMT -5
nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/theory-playboy-model-had-affair-with-trump-not-broidy.htmlWhen it all comes out that the President bullied a playboy model into having an abortion and taking a payoff through his fixer, had a campaign donor pay for it and then floated him as the cover story father in exchange for defense contracts, I'm very interested in where evangelicals and conservative Catholics are going to land on all this. Oh wait, I do know where they'll land. Solidly behind him because they hate immigrants. Example.... Franklin_Graham, 1998 - WSJ Franklin_Graham, 2018 - Franklin Graham, thy name is hypocrite. And to quote the immortal Ralph Kramden, oh, what a surprise!
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Post by tashoya on May 9, 2018 0:35:58 GMT -5
Flexible morality. Where can I acquire such a convenience with zero remorse? I'm certain I've done a couple of things in my life that went against my personal morality. And, while I'd readily tell a friend about those things if they asked, I wouldn't broadcast them as I feel shame about them and there's context that I feel is important. Where the eff did rightfully earned shame go? I feel like a big bag of crap about my personal lapses and I think that's the right way to feel. I can't imagine selling out my set of beliefs to pander to some who happens to hold a position of power.
If people can't see a person like that for what he so clearly is, there's very little that can be said about that person that will change anyone's mind. Which is exactly where we're at with Trump. Forget the Mueller investigation. The sheer volume of things that his supporters have forgiven him for already is a very bad sign for 2020. Trump was a visionary when he said that he could shoot someone on Fifth Ave. I truly believe he could and his supporters would find a way to spin it as "American" and an argument in favor of the Second Amendment.
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Post by SSHoya on May 9, 2018 7:01:08 GMT -5
Another Hoya bites the dust. More of the "best people", E. Erin Walsh C '83: A high-ranking Department of Commerce official was escorted out of the department’s Washington, DC, headquarters by security last Thursday, according to three sources at the agency knowledgeable about the matter. It is unknown why Elizabeth Erin Walsh was removed from the building, but the sources told BuzzFeed News that there’s an internal investigation underway that involves her, although they could not provide details about the nature of the probe. Walsh was nominated by President Donald Trump in May 2017 to serve as assistant secretary of commerce for global markets and director general of the US and Foreign Commercial Service, a position she began last August, after being confirmed by the Senate by a voice vote. Walsh, a former Goldman Sachs vice president, previously served in the White House as special assistant to the president and associate director for presidential personnel. She has worked at the Department of State and Department of Energy and other federal government agencies for 12 years. Walsh declined to comment about her removal, or the current status of her position. A Commerce Department spokeswoman also declined to comment. www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/commerce-department-official-escorted-out?utm_term=.auPwJ0QYn#.ccADqXwr2
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 8:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 8:41:21 GMT -5
Obviously the media is focused on the payment from Putin's bestie but why did all these companies pay Cohen millions of dollars for consulting? All of this looks really swampy. People focus on Russia, and its related, but the real story of Trump is the amount of corruption that's surrounding him in general. Folks now if they want to gain favor from this administration all they need to do is throw Trump a couple dollars, and the Trump people are brashly accepting bribes in plain sight.
Truly remarkable that these companies knew to make big payments into a totally unknown LLC operated by Trump aide (Fixer) who had no position inside the WH and no formal role on the campaign. How did anyone know to hire Essential Consultants? What is the likelihood that Essential Consulting is the only dummy entity of this type?
It's becoming increasingly clear why the President doesn't want anyone looking into his financial background...
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Post by DallasHoya on May 9, 2018 11:09:44 GMT -5
"Truly remarkable?" This is the way DC has worked for as long as anyone can remember. Michael Deaver was on the cover of Time 32 years ago with the headline "Influence Peddling in Washington." Foreign governments and others were giving the Clinton Foundation six figure checks so they could travel around the world in private jets. The whole thing doesn't just "look swampy," it's disgusting, but don't act like it's unique to this administration.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:17:03 GMT -5
Here you go again with your apples to oranges comparisons...
IT IS UNIQUE. We haven't seen this level of corruption in any Presidency, R or D. To claim the opposite is ridiculous... You guys are older than me, smarter, have seen more, experienced more etc, but stop acting like this is business as usual.. That's absurd....
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Post by DallasHoya on May 9, 2018 11:17:38 GMT -5
This guys only real client was the President he appears to be fully engaged in a lot of sketchy activities... Pretty sure you can replace "appears to be" with "is" in that sentence.
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Post by DallasHoya on May 9, 2018 11:30:28 GMT -5
Here you go again with your apples to oranges comparisons... IT IS UNIQUE. We haven't seen this level of corruption in any Presidency. To claim the opposite is ridiculous... You guys are way older than me, smarter than me, have seen more, experienced more etc but stop acting like this is business as usual.. That's absurd.. While Mrs. Clinton was a sitting US Senator and after that the overwhelming favorite to be the next President. Trump has a helluva of a start, but he's still light years behind someone like Nixon.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 11:36:15 GMT -5
Here you go again with your apples to oranges comparisons... IT IS UNIQUE. We haven't seen this level of corruption in any Presidency. To claim the opposite is ridiculous... You guys are way older than me, smarter than me, have seen more, experienced more etc but stop acting like this is business as usual.. That's absurd.. While Mrs. Clinton was a sitting US Senator and after that the overwhelming favorite to be the next President. Trump has a helluva of a start, but he's still light years behind someone like Nixon. So you're saying she wasn't President? And Trump isn't unique because of Nixon. Ok, umm... cool. Whatever works I guess, but Trump isn't lightyears behind anyone in terms of corruption. He's going for the gold..
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 9, 2018 11:43:42 GMT -5
"Truly remarkable?" This is the way DC has worked for as long as anyone can remember. Michael Deaver was on the cover of Time 32 years ago with the headline "Influence Peddling in Washington." Foreign governments and others were giving the Clinton Foundation six figure checks so they could travel around the world in private jets. The whole thing doesn't just "look swampy," it's disgusting, but don't act like it's unique to this administration. Not only DC. My job required me to interact with local and state politicians. Paying for access is rampant on that level as well.
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Post by TC on May 9, 2018 11:57:32 GMT -5
"Truly remarkable?" This is the way DC has worked for as long as anyone can remember. Michael Deaver was on the cover of Time 32 years ago with the headline "Influence Peddling in Washington." Foreign governments and others were giving the Clinton Foundation six figure checks so they could travel around the world in private jets. The whole thing doesn't just "look swampy," it's disgusting, but don't act like it's unique to this administration. The brazenness, the scope, the lack of any sort of consequence, and being compromised by a foreign power are what are unique to this administration. Scott Pruitt would have been fired in any other administration months ago. You think this would have flown under Clinton? www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/04/mick-mulvaneys-guide-to-navigating-the-swamp/558890/
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 12:02:48 GMT -5
Speed Limit is 60
Everybody is going 80
Trump hops in the car drunk. Pushes the speed up to 140. Starts doing donuts in the middle of the freeway, and road raging against anybody who bothers to tell him to slow down.....
Conclusion: It's no big deal, everybody speeds.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 12:53:41 GMT -5
Here you go again with your apples to oranges comparisons... IT IS UNIQUE. We haven't seen this level of corruption in any Presidency. To claim the opposite is ridiculous... You guys are way older than me, smarter than me, have seen more, experienced more etc but stop acting like this is business as usual.. That's absurd.. While Mrs. Clinton was a sitting US Senator and after that the overwhelming favorite to be the next President. Trump has a helluva of a start, but he's still light years behind someone like Nixon. One big difference? All donations to the Clinton Foundation are disclosed. In fact, they do the work for you with a page on their website listing all of their donors. Literally, ALL of them. Down to the thousands of people who have donated $250 or less. www.clintonfoundation.org/contributorsWhether some of these donations were made to try to curry favor could be up for discussion. And if you want to try connect the dots between a donation and some favorable treatment by Hillary when she was Sec State, knock yourself out. As a bonus: if you want to understand the finances of the foundation, see all of their expenses and revenue in any given year, all of their 990 forms (the non-profit "tax return") are public record. Dig in. All of the information is public, so they know that they could be held accountable for it at any time. It's not hiding behind sham LLCs in an attempt to keep it dark. That's what makes this situation apples-and-oranges.
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Post by DallasHoya on May 9, 2018 15:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 18:36:24 GMT -5
Reports from the mainstream media? Fake news. Sorry, those are the rules now.
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Post by tashoya on May 9, 2018 19:04:43 GMT -5
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