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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 11:43:52 GMT -5
Class bunch of Trumpistas in the East Room today at the White House, chanting "CNN sucks!" even as the FBI arrests the suspect in the attempted bombings. Tell you all you need to know about Trump supporters. (Remember bringing "dignity" back to the White House? But Obama wore a brown suit! He put his feet on the desk!). Frigging hypocrites.
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Post by tashoya on Oct 26, 2018 12:02:31 GMT -5
One important thing that's often overlooked is that not many men (or women) can pull off wearing a tan suit. President Obama made it look like a good idea. It usually isn't.
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 12:05:22 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Oct 26, 2018 12:13:42 GMT -5
Where was the outrage when the Trump family had envelopes with white powder mailed to them? Great question, how many times did you post about it? (answer: 0) As far as I can tell, you were too busy complaining about Pope Francis, Obama making NCAA picks, and Joe Kennedy's SoTU response when the Trump family white powder story was going on. Maybe I wasn’t outraged by it. I wanted to know why everyone who is so bent now didn’t care then.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:18:19 GMT -5
We should probably find out where he was radicalized. Spoiler: Trump rallies
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Post by TC on Oct 26, 2018 12:25:53 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 12:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by guru on Oct 26, 2018 12:26:56 GMT -5
Maybe because a bunch of baby powder is different from actual pipe bombs? Maybe because no prominent Democratic politicians have attacked Eric or Donald Jr or normalized violence in the way Trump has gone after the pipe bomb targets? Maybe because no one was actually denying that Eric or Donald Jr were sent baby powder? Why do you try to argue against this poster's willful ignorance?
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 12:35:45 GMT -5
Maybe because a bunch of baby powder is different from actual pipe bombs? Maybe because no prominent Democratic politicians have attacked Eric or Donald Jr or normalized violence in the way Trump has gone after the pipe bomb targets? Maybe because no one was actually denying that Eric or Donald Jr were sent baby powder? Why do you try to argue against this poster's willful ignorance? Also a specialist in "whataboutism" and false equivalents. The powder scare defendant also targeted Dems and others. Zero evidence that this mentally unstable defendant motivated by any political concerns much less egged on by any leading Democrats in their political rhetoric. None. Unlike Sayoc and the attempted pipe bombings. (Knock 'em in the head, I'll pay your legal bills, you gotta like a bodyslamming Congressman, he's a great guy, etc...). Other recipients included Debbie Stabenow, the Democratic U.S. senator from Michigan; Michelle Dauber, a Stanford University law professor who promoted an effort to recall California judge Aaron Persky; and Antonio Sabato Jr., a Republican former underwear model and soap opera actor who’s running for Congress in California. Frisiello’s attorney, William Fick, declined to comment after the hearing. Fick told the judge that Frisiello has substantial cognitive and developmental issues from brain damage he suffered at birth. He said Frisiello is profoundly autistic and has an anxiety disorder. www.washingtonpost.com/national/man-to-plead-guilty-to-sending-white-powder-to-trump-sons/2018/10/17/5bd05782-d210-11e8-a4db-184311d27129_story.html?utm_term=.a8533822d1db
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:38:50 GMT -5
Occam's Razor?
On Wednesday, Candace Owens conspired that the pipe bombs sent to Democrats were a leftist hoax.
Today, the President is holding an event for her organization at the White House.
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 12:43:43 GMT -5
Occam's Razor? On Wednesday, Candace Owens conspired that the pipe bombs sent to Democrats were a leftist hoax. Today, the President is holding an event for her organization at the White House. The "false flag" conspiracy theory utterly fails. Only the weakest of minds buy into this crap. See e.g., Pizzagate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 12:55:12 GMT -5
Occam's Razor? On Wednesday, Candace Owens conspired that the pipe bombs sent to Democrats were a leftist hoax. Today, the President is holding an event for her organization at the White House. The "false flag" conspiracy theory utterly fails. Only the weakest of minds buy into this crap. See e.g., Pizzagate. The thing is that's a normal FoxNews segment. Could be a crazy guy, or a left wing conspiracy perpetuated by the Deep State to convince Independents to vote Democrat and swing the election. You decide. Fox’s Geraldo Rivera on bombs sent to Democrats: "At the risk of sounding like a far right-wing lunatic … I believe that this whole thing was an elaborate hoax"
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 14:09:00 GMT -5
AG Sessions in a fit of honesty just conceded that Sayoc's motivation may have been as a "partisan". So much for the "false flag" conspiracy. No doubt Don the Con will use this as another reason to fire Sessions. FBI Director Wray also would not respond as to whether the White House was informed of the suspect yesterday, yet Don the Con tweeting this morning about "this bomb thing" as if it was a hoax. Wray said these are not hoax devices. Trump is a despicable human being. The inference is that Wray did, in fact, inform the White House and the pathological liar went ahead with his tweet. The FBI has taken custody of Cesar Altieri Sayoc in connection with the attempted mailing of 13 pipe bombs to prominent former government officials, including former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and other public figures. The Department of Justice has brought five charges against Sayoc in the Southern District of New York. Sayoc is charged with interstate transportation of an explosive, the illegal mailing of explosives, making threats against former presidents and certain other persons, making threatening interstate communications, and assaulting federal officers. The charging document is below. www.lawfareblog.com/document-criminal-complaint-against-cesar-sayocBut anyone with a television set could have developed an obsession with George Soros as the leader of a globalist cabal, with the Clintons and CNN embedded in its upper echelons. The prototypes for conspiracy theories and conservative calls to arms are often born on message boards, where users can bounce notions off each other and build them into something bigger. When they’re ready for prime time, though, that’s where they end up. What’s really unprecedented — more so than conservative talking heads’ willingness to don tinfoil hats — is that the president of the United States is just as happy to participate in the trend. From Fox’s mouth, crackpot concepts go straight to Trump’s ear — and then to the rest of ours. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2018/10/26/were-all-part-of-the-right-wing-conspiracy-theory-machine/?utm_term=.6f5f3f616b64
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 26, 2018 15:52:49 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 26, 2018 19:13:02 GMT -5
Appears the guy arrested in bombings owns a van covered with Trump stickers and pics of Trump. I'm sure Lou Dobbs thinks it's a clever disguise. It's obvious that this guy is nothing more than a Deep State plant intended to embarrass our fine leader. Watch for this story and more on the Fake News Network.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 26, 2018 19:23:04 GMT -5
By former Republican and conservative, Jennifer Rubin: www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/10/25/heres-what-trump-should-worry-about/?utm_term=.f354ae3a5b52By former Republican and conservative, Max Boot: Through ignorance and malice, Donald Trump is destroying the foundations of US influence that previous leaders spent three-quarters of a century erecting. When it comes to “soft power”, he is engaging in unilateral disarmament – and that in turn will have dire consequences for US security and prosperity. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/25/pax-americana-us-influence-global-disorder-trumpConservative Republican David Frum (who called on Trump to resign in 2017). (N.B. He has not yet fled the GOP) Yet even as Trump ties his own shoelaces together and lurches nose-first into the Rose Garden dirt, he has scored a dismaying sequence of successes in his war on U.S. institutions. In this, Trump is not acting alone. He is enabled by his party in Congress and its many supporters throughout the country. Republican leaders and donors have built a coping mechanism for the age of Trump, a mantra: “Ignore the weird stuff, focus on the policy.” But the policy is increasingly driven by the weird stuff: tariffs, trade wars, quarrels with allies, suspicions of secret deals with the Russians. The weird stuff is the policy—and it is transforming the president’s party in ways not easily or soon corrected. Maybe you don’t care about the president’s party. You should, because a liberal democracy cannot endure if only one of its two major parties remains committed to democratic values. www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/building-an-autocracy/568282/By evangelical Christian and conservative Republican Michael Gerson: The president’s form of deception is qualitatively different from the deviousness of Richard M. Nixon or the smoothness of Bill Clinton. Trump pursues no deep or subtle strategies. He does not even consistently seek his own interests. He responds like a child or a narcissist — but I repeat myself — to positive or negative stimulation. It is the reason a discussion on “Fox & Friends” can so often set the agenda of the president. It is the reason that Trump’s lawyers, in the end, can’t allow him to be interviewed by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. It would be like a 9-year-old defending a PhD dissertation. Or maybe a rabbit jumping into a buzz saw. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-are-a-superpower-run-by-a-simpleton/2018/09/06/a39c8980-b205-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.8b368adf7427Thank you for pointing out who wrote these articles, so a certain poster can't just claim that they are more propaganda published by that red rag, the Washington Post.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 26, 2018 19:29:07 GMT -5
Class bunch of Trumpistas in the East Room today at the White House, chanting "CNN sucks!" even as the FBI arrests the suspect in the attempted bombings. Tell you all you need to know about Trump supporters. (Remember bringing "dignity" back to the White House? But Obama wore a brown suit! He put his feet on the desk!). Frigging hypocrites. That is awful behavior but let’s be honest here , CNN does kind of suck.
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Post by hoya9797 on Oct 26, 2018 19:33:36 GMT -5
Can you even imagine what the reaction would be if this guy was named Muhammad?
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Oct 26, 2018 20:50:06 GMT -5
For me, it is a matter of ethics with language. Trump does this all the time. “You can’t have a country if you don’t steel” or “You can’t have a country if you don’t have secure borders.” These are opinions not facts. I imagine we could find many countries that have neither steel nor secure borders. Increasingly, asserting ones’ opinions as facts seems a real douchbag thing to do. It is akin to gaslighting. Please don't compare anything in this thread to the "discourse" that emanates from the White House on a daily basis. Please. would it be possible to keep political posts where they belong, in other sections of this forum?
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