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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 8:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by TC on May 11, 2017 8:39:23 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 11, 2017 8:50:59 GMT -5
No expert on catapult systems but seems Trump is going back to 20th century technology because in his simplistic analysis it saves money. Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch Systems (EMALS) are more energy efficient and eliminate the dangers associated with 20th century (think 1950s) steam technology. It seems consistent with his world view that "Making America Great Again" means returning to the 1950s. "I know more about aircraft launch systems than naval engineers!" Trump is a draft dodging moron. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_Aircraft_Launch_System
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 11, 2017 12:27:37 GMT -5
Next, we'll learn he wants investment in battleships because they sound tre-mennn-dous.
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Post by SSHoya on May 12, 2017 6:10:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 10:18:53 GMT -5
1) Trump to NBC: "When I decided to [fire Comey], I said to myself, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story." 2) Removing James Comey will help bring the Russia investigation to an end, the White House says cnn.it/2pDLek0"We want this to come to its conclusion, we want it to come to its conclusion with integrity," she said, referring to the FBI's probe into Moscow's interference in last year's election. "And we think that we've actually, by removing Director Comey, taken steps to make that happen." 3) The New York Times Trump pressed Comey for loyalty 3 times at a private dinner in January. The FBI director promised only “honesty.” Adding to the impropriety of this, according to Trump/WH Comey called the meeting because he wanted to keep his job. Comey's people say that's false and that it was the WH... 4) This Comey dinner reportedly happened Jan. 27. That puts it on the same day Sally Yates had her follow-up conversation with McGahn regarding Flynn.
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 12, 2017 10:34:34 GMT -5
I just bought a new box of popcorn. Trump is such a fool!
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 12, 2017 17:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on May 12, 2017 19:48:42 GMT -5
1) Trump to NBC: "When I decided to [fire Comey], I said to myself, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story."
2) Removing James Comey will help bring the Russia investigation to an end, the White House says cnn.it/2pDLek0
"We want this to come to its conclusion, we want it to come to its conclusion with integrity," she said, referring to the FBI's probe into Moscow's interference in last year's election. "And we think that we've actually, by removing Director Comey, taken steps to make that happen."
LMAO. Only in the alternative universe in which Trump resides. Did Trump have a séance and reach out to the ghost of Tricky Dick? I'm sure the Trickster assured him that firing Comey was the correct approach and will kill the investigation.
Nixon is looking like a tragic hero these days. He was certainly a far superior president to any of the last 3 Republicans (including the current guy), but for his foibles. And that's coming from someone who despised him.
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Post by SSHoya on May 13, 2017 6:02:07 GMT -5
1) Trump to NBC: "When I decided to [fire Comey], I said to myself, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story." 2) Removing James Comey will help bring the Russia investigation to an end, the White House says cnn.it/2pDLek0 "We want this to come to its conclusion, we want it to come to its conclusion with integrity," she said, referring to the FBI's probe into Moscow's interference in last year's election. "And we think that we've actually, by removing Director Comey, taken steps to make that happen." LMAO. Only in the alternative universe in which Trump resides. Did Trump have a séance and reach out to the ghost of Tricky Dick? I'm sure the Trickster assured him that firing Comey was the correct approach and will kill the investigation. Nixon is looking like a tragic hero these days. He was certainly a far superior president to any of the last 3 Republicans (including the current guy), but for his foibles. And that's coming from someone who despised him. One TV pundit suggested that the beginning of the Trump Administration is looking a lot like the end of the Nixon Administration. The FINCEN records should help move this investigation forward. The importance of such data suggests that Trump and/or his associates may have been engaged in money laundering activities for or on behalf of Russian oligarch or entities per Wall Street Journal.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 11:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 14, 2017 11:55:33 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on May 15, 2017 16:49:23 GMT -5
It is time for impeachment. This ignorant malignant narcissist cannot be trusted. People simply do not realize how damaging this breach of operational security is when even the Five Eyes were not read in (assuming the source was not one of the Five Eyes). In posts above, I was joking about Trump's handler being present (and the only way it was known was through Tass since Trump excluded the US press -- only Lavrov was identified as meeting with Trump until the picture were released by the Russians). Now, I'm not so sure it is a joke: President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said that Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State. www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.53fb002f786f(Note to GOP hypocrites -- please compare and contrast with Clinton's e-mails, please.)
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 17:20:47 GMT -5
FFS.....Awful smh...
Am I reading this correctly because it appears to be saying Trump revealed highly classified code word intelligence to the Russians the day after he fired the FBI director who was investigating his campaigns ties to the Russians?
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Post by SSHoya on May 15, 2017 17:43:24 GMT -5
FFS.....Awful smh... Am I reading this correctly because it appears to be saying Trump revealed highly classified code word intelligence to the Russians the day after he fired the FBI director who was investigating his campaigns ties to the Russians? Indeed you are. The most benign explanation is that Trump is so ignorant but such a braggart he had to tell the Russians about our great intel (but remember how he denigrated the IC during the campaign) and as the Post suggests, he wandered off script. While Tillerson and McMaster issued statements that no sources/methods revealed, the mere fact that the information was made known to the Russians will enable the RIS to reverse engineer to determine a potential source. Moreover, if you were that source, you can never trust the USIC ever again. But the GOP hypocrites who were getting the vapors over Clinton's emails will remain silent. Hypocrites of the highest order. Putting party over country. The more nefarious scenario is that Trump has been compromised by the RIS. It's time for impeachment regardless of which scenario is more accurate. McMaster in his 35 second statement denied something that was not alleged -- the WaPo article did not say that sources and methods were disclosed but that code word classified information was. McMaster did not deny this. Someone explain to me how 80% of Republicans can still support Trump.
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Post by EasyEd on May 15, 2017 18:40:15 GMT -5
Does the President have the authority to de-classify information?
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Post by SSHoya on May 15, 2017 18:47:35 GMT -5
Does the President have the authority to de-classify information? Indeed he does; however, prior to declassification it is the usual practice to have the originating agency weigh in on the merits of declassification, aka OADR (originating agency determination required) which is typically stamped on most classified documents. A prudent President would undertake such a declassification in a measured, deliberate manner and not blurt it out to the Russians in his office. This is especially true where third-party country/ally was the source of the information. Intel sharing is done pursuant to agreements with the other country's intelligence service. This is another example of Trump's impulsive nature and his ignorance and/or contempt of government. At a lower levels in the USIC (i.e., the level at which I was working), there are particular rules for dissemination, which is a term of art in the USIC. Classified information may be disseminated depending upon the nature and level of classification of the information, the reason sought for the release, and to whom it may be released. A very simple example of a release of classified information collected through electronic surveillance in a foreign counterintelligence investigation (FCI) disclosed a crime either committed or about to be committed not necessarily related to the FCI, that information may be declassed and disseminated to local law enforcement authorities.
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Post by EasyEd on May 15, 2017 19:05:52 GMT -5
Does the President have the authority to de-classify information? Indeed he does; however, prior to declassification it is the usual practice to have the originating agency weigh in on the merits of declassification, aka OADR (originating agency determination required) which is typically stamped on most classified documents. A prudent President would undertake such a declassification in a measured, deliberate manner and not blurt it out to the Russians in his office. This is especially true where third-party country/ally was the source of the information. Intel sharing is done pursuant to agreements with the other country's intelligence service. This is another example of Trump's impulsive nature and his ignorance and/or contempt of government. At a lower levels in the USIC (i.e., the level at which I was working), there are particular rules for dissemination, which is a term of art in the USIC. Classified information may be disseminated depending upon the nature and level of classification of the information, the reason sought for the release, and to whom it may be released. A very simple example of a release of classified information collected through electronic surveillance in a foreign counterintelligence investigation (FCI) disclosed a crime either committed or about to be committed not necessarily related to the FCI, that information may be declassed and disseminated to local law enforcement authorities. Thanks for admitting the President has the authority to de-classify information.
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Post by tashoya on May 15, 2017 19:06:35 GMT -5
Does the President have the authority to de-classify information? Indeed he does; however, prior to declassification it is the usual practice to have the originating agency weigh in on the merits of declassification, aka OADR (originating agency determination required) which is typically stamped on most classified documents. A prudent President would undertake such a declassification in a measured, deliberate manner and not blurt it out to the Russians in his office. This is especially true where third-party country/ally was the source of the information. Intel sharing is done pursuant to agreements with the other country's intelligence service. This is another example of Trump's impulsive nature and his ignorance and/or contempt of government. At a lower levels in the USIC (i.e., the level at which I was working), there are particular rules for dissemination, which is a term of art in the USIC. Classified information may be disseminated depending upon the nature and level of classification of the information, the reason sought for the release, and to whom it may be released. A very simple example of a release of classified information collected through electronic surveillance in a foreign counterintelligence investigation (FCI) disclosed a crime either committed or about to be committed not necessarily related to the FCI, that information may be declassed and disseminated to local law enforcement authorities. I'm going to guess that the 80% about which you were wondering would stop reading exactly three words into your latest explanation. After all, in this administration, less information/explanation seems to be viewed as meritorious and, for its supporters, virtually a necessity. Edit: Ed beat me to it.
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Post by tashoya on May 15, 2017 19:09:59 GMT -5
Indeed he does; however, prior to declassification it is the usual practice to have the originating agency weigh in on the merits of declassification, aka OADR (originating agency determination required) which is typically stamped on most classified documents. A prudent President would undertake such a declassification in a measured, deliberate manner and not blurt it out to the Russians in his office. This is especially true where third-party country/ally was the source of the information. Intel sharing is done pursuant to agreements with the other country's intelligence service. This is another example of Trump's impulsive nature and his ignorance and/or contempt of government. At a lower levels in the USIC (i.e., the level at which I was working), there are particular rules for dissemination, which is a term of art in the USIC. Classified information may be disseminated depending upon the nature and level of classification of the information, the reason sought for the release, and to whom it may be released. A very simple example of a release of classified information collected through electronic surveillance in a foreign counterintelligence investigation (FCI) disclosed a crime either committed or about to be committed not necessarily related to the FCI, that information may be declassed and disseminated to local law enforcement authorities. Thanks for admitting the President has the authority to de-classify information. No one had to admit that because everyone knows that's the case. That doesn't, even slightly, detract from the rest of what SS explained. The President also has the authority to be a destabilizing force and dangerous to his own country and populace. Authority and what is ethical/right/sensible are remotely different things. I'm sure you're willing to "admit" that.
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