NY Times on rebirth of BE

[thebin]

Didn't see this, apologize if duped.

www.nytimes.com/2015/03/12/sports/ncaabasketball/big-east-firmly-takes-root-in-its-second-season.html?_r=0

[sead43]

there were also these two similar articles posted in the pre-game Articles thread:

bigstory.ap.org/article/04f2565f5fac4422a1c1d10ab523257d/new-big-east-looks-more-old-big-east-tourney-opens?utm_campaign=AP_Top25&utm_source=SocialFlow&utm_medium=Twitter

www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/big-east-villanova-st-john-s-georgetown-xavier-butler-providence-pretty-dang-good-031015

It is obviously still early in the life of the new BE, but almost 2 years in, it is hard to argue that it has not worked out relatively well, all things considered. Remember it was not long ago when we didn't know if we'd be stuck with the remnants of the old BE or be cast off totally on our own...in other words, today we could have easily essentially been a part of what is now the AAC, with all of the continuing uncertainty (albeit under the BE name), or we could have been with the current group of BE schools but under an AAC-like name and without either MSG or the league history/records. Those who led the transformation, which includes the Georgetown Administration (with the assist from Fox, of course) should be given a lot of credit.

Also nice to see JTIII (and DSR) quoted prominently in these articles.

Onward and upward.

[Deleted]

I'm so confused. ESPN keeps telling me that the Big East is dead.

[sleepy]

Mar 12, 2015 14:33:34 GMT -5 @cam said:

I'm so confused. ESPN keeps telling me that the Big East is dead.

Battier actually said the Big East was better than the ACC during the Virginia/FL State game but was bullied into changing his opinion by completely objective Mcdonough.

[HometownHoya]

Mar 12, 2015 14:33:34 GMT -5 @cam said:

I'm so confused. ESPN keeps telling me that the Big East is dead.

I also keep hearing rumblings of this sport called Hockey?

[Elvado]

As of 3/12/15 the ACC leads the BE only in schools who are, or should be under investigation or actual sanction.

[jwp91]

There is a term that we used to use in the Fortune 100 in which I used to work....."pass the trash around"

That is what the Big East did to the ACC.

[FrazierFanatic]

Mar 12, 2015 14:39:11 GMT -5 sleepy said:

Mar 12, 2015 14:33:34 GMT -5 @cam said:

I'm so confused. ESPN keeps telling me that the Big East is dead.

Battier actually said the Big East was better than the ACC during the Virginia/FL State game but was bullied into changing his opinion by completely objective Mcdonough.

I am heartened to see that Seannie McOrange has finally been able to get a handle on his uncontrollable sobbing from the Suckacuse sanctions.

[Big Dog]

Mar 12, 2015 15:53:24 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

Mar 12, 2015 14:39:11 GMT -5 sleepy said:

Battier actually said the Big East was better than the ACC during the Virginia/FL State game but was bullied into changing his opinion by completely objective Mcdonough.

I am heartened to see that Seannie McOrange has finally been able to get a handle on his uncontrollable sobbing from the Suckacuse sanctions.

Why isn't Richard Dietsch at SI doing a deep-dive into the ESPN/Syracuse enabling, and the bizarre, sad sight of Mike Tirico going on-air in Syracuse to defend the program? Oh wait, I know, because his buddy Pete Thamel is the biggest Syracuse homer there is.

[JohnnyJones]

Mar 12, 2015 14:05:08 GMT -5 sead43 said:

there were also these two similar articles posted in the pre-game Articles thread:

bigstory.ap.org/article/04f2565f5fac4422a1c1d10ab523257d/new-big-east-looks-more-old-big-east-tourney-opens?utm_campaign=AP_Top25&utm_source=SocialFlow&utm_medium=Twitter

www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/big-east-villanova-st-john-s-georgetown-xavier-butler-providence-pretty-dang-good-031015

It is obviously still early in the life of the new BE, but almost 2 years in, it is hard to argue that it has not worked out relatively well, all things considered. Remember it was not long ago when we didn't know if we'd be stuck with the remnants of the old BE or be cast off totally on our own...in other words, today we could have easily essentially been a part of what is now the AAC, with all of the continuing uncertainty (albeit under the BE name), or we could have been with the current group of BE schools but under an AAC-like name and without either MSG or the league history/records. Those who led the transformation, which includes the Georgetown Administration (with the assist from Fox, of course) should be given a lot of credit.

Also nice to see JTIII (and DSR) quoted prominently in these articles.

Onward and upward.

Relatively well all things considered? I would argue it has been a fabulous success so far.

[DanMcQ]

Mar 12, 2015 17:19:15 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Mar 12, 2015 15:53:24 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

I am heartened to see that Seannie McOrange has finally been able to get a handle on his uncontrollable sobbing from the Suckacuse sanctions.

Why isn't Richard Dietsch at SI doing a deep-dive into the ESPN/Syracuse enabling, and the bizarre, sad sight of Mike Tirico going on-air in Syracuse to defend the program? Oh wait, I know, because his buddy Pete Thamel is the biggest Syracuse homer there is.

Speaking of Thamel, you should see some of the tweets he got after a yet another blatant anti-Hoya tweet yesterday. Kudos to Casual for his NSFW response, among other ones.

[hoyazeke]

What is upsetting me is Bilas constantly dogging Nova about possibly being a #1 seed. Dogging the BE as if no team from the league is worthy of a #1.........

[DanMcQ]

Mar 13, 2015 16:30:13 GMT -5 hoyazeke said:

What is upsetting me is Bilas constantly dogging Nova about possibly being a #1 seed. Dogging the BE as if no team from the league is worthy of a #1.........

Pay no attention to Jay Smarmy. Same rule applies to almost anything that emerges from Pete Thamel relative to Georgetown.

[Big Dog]

Bilas is an idiot and is going to be wrong. One of Duke or Virginia will get dropped from the 1 line, assuming Wisconsin wins the B1G tourney.

[Big Dog]

Chris "Mad Dog" Russo this afternoon, reviewing the watchability of tonight's college games--"don't care about the Big East [games tonight]" and his whole staff agreed that nobody was interested in Georgetown-Xavier.

Can't say I blame them. We are hard to watch. Plus, everybody left in the BET right now is off the bubble. Nothing major at stake compared to the Pac 12.

[sleepy]

Mar 13, 2015 16:46:35 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Bilas is an idiot and is going to be wrong. One of Duke or Virginia will get dropped from the 1 line, assuming Wisconsin wins the B1G tourney.

What is with this sudden ESPN obsession with Wisconsin that I keep hearing about. No way a Big 10 team deserves a 1 seed over a Big East team. I think the ACC is overrated this year but at least they had some quality teams at the top.

[Big Dog]

Mar 13, 2015 17:46:02 GMT -5 sleepy said:

Mar 13, 2015 16:46:35 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Bilas is an idiot and is going to be wrong. One of Duke or Virginia will get dropped from the 1 line, assuming Wisconsin wins the B1G tourney.

What is with this sudden ESPN obsession with Wisconsin that I keep hearing about. No way a Big 10 team deserves a 1 seed over a Big East team. I think the ACC is overrated this year but at least they had some quality teams at the top.

I agree. Look at Wisconsin's wins. Their best two were outside the conference--Oklahoma and us. The conference was weak at the top, middle, and bottom.

[flyoverhoya]

Wisco is very good, but they're a 2.

[sleepy]

What madness will befall us if ESPN can't have 2 ACC 1 seeds with this Virginia loss?! The horror... the outrage.... the unfairness of it all.

[RockawayHoya]

Mar 13, 2015 16:48:04 GMT -5 Big Dog said:

Chris "Mad Dog" Russo this afternoon, reviewing the watchability of tonight's college games--"don't care about the Big East [games tonight]" and his whole staff agreed that nobody was interested in Georgetown-Xavier.

Can't say I blame them. We are hard to watch. Plus, everybody left in the BET right now is off the bubble. Nothing major at stake compared to the Pac 12.

I grew up listening to Dog just about every day, so he will always have a special place in my heart.

That being said, I don't think I've listened to him once since he left WFAN. So if we're on the topic of "watchability / listenability"...