hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 21, 2015 22:33:36 GMT -5
Trawick had a bad first half, but played really well in the second. The Sr stepped up. Agreed. The first half he over-penetrated and got himself in a ton of trouble. That reverse lay-up at the end was one of the biggest plays of game.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 21, 2015 22:34:50 GMT -5
DePaul is on a 3 game losing steak. DePaul cuts the lead to 2, how did this game ever get this close? TJIhoyas almost gets his wish of a Hoyas loss. I'm sure he was relishing the final minutes.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 21, 2015 22:37:30 GMT -5
DePaul did a good job in the second part of the second half to force Josh away from the basket and double or triple team him. Not much he can do at that point besides find the open man. I thought he did that fairly well.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 21, 2015 22:39:36 GMT -5
Hoyas punched their ticket tonight to the dance. That was my expectation to start the season. I will try to keep everything from here on out in perspective...but that is likely not going to happen.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 21, 2015 22:40:08 GMT -5
On the plus side, the Hoya centers were 5-5 from the line.
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Post by 3xhoya on Feb 21, 2015 22:44:07 GMT -5
Seth Davis just said what I've heard a thousand times over the past few years about Georgetown: "You get the feeling that Georgetown could beat any team or lose to any team." I just said that exact thing to a friend of mine last night. That is why no Georgetown fans should go nuts if this team loses to another double digit seed in the NCAA tournament. This team is capable of playing with or beating anyone and allowing anyone to play with us and losing to anybody. This is exactly why we will go nuts. We have the talent to beat anyone but too often we beat ourselves. This has to stop, we have to develop a killer instinct but for some reason it is very hard for these teams to do so.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 21, 2015 22:47:17 GMT -5
Hoyas punched their ticket tonight to the dance. That was my expectation to start the season. I will try to keep everything from here on out in perspective...but that is likely not going to happen. The only possibility for a bad loss from here on out is at home to Seton Hall. There are tons of teams in Georgetown's range that have one or several bad losses (Purdue, Indiana, Oklahoma St., Texas, Michigan St., Texas A&M, etc.). Even if we lose out, we should be in.
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Post by iverwig on Feb 21, 2015 22:48:22 GMT -5
This team lacks a true leader on the floor. DSR is supposed to be that leader but he's not. You can't have that happen at that point in the game. I'm not blaming him for Depaul's run but I don't care how much talent this team has there is no leader on the floor. Missed lay up and now a bad foil from the leader of the team. This is why the team struggles often. Not sure you should be looking at DSR for excuses
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 21, 2015 22:52:54 GMT -5
Hoyas punched their ticket tonight to the dance. That was my expectation to start the season. I will try to keep everything from here on out in perspective...but that is likely not going to happen. Yup. DePaul was the key game because of their awful RPI. If they had gotten a road win against us that would have been bad. Not that it would be good but we could lose the remaining 3 games and still likely make the tourney since those teams won't hurt our RPI.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 21, 2015 22:53:44 GMT -5
This team lacks a true leader on the floor. DSR is supposed to be that leader but he's not. You can't have that happen at that point in the game. Not sure you should be looking at DSR for excuses Top scorer. Top assist man. I don't even know how many weeks of BE honor roll. Clutch free throw shooter. Huge improvement on defense. Plays a new position on this team. Went from being quiet to a vocal leader. What else do you want from him?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 21, 2015 22:56:02 GMT -5
A useful win. Keeps everybody, especially the frosh, from getting complacent after 2 easy wins - the perfect lesson that you have to work hard EVERY DAY to get better and to win games. JTIII has a week, and the memory of this game, to pound it into them over and over and over.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 21, 2015 22:59:10 GMT -5
I saw none of the game as my satellite service went out due to weather (because it's CBS, there will be no replay I assume) but am glad that the Hoyas pulled it out. Thanks to all for the posts and updates throughout.
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Post by nychoya96 on Feb 21, 2015 23:05:37 GMT -5
Predictably uninspiring, but unpredictably close. I do think DePaul played tough and made shots at the exact times when it looked like we were about to close it out. But that all too standard mix of missed free throws and ugly turnovers made this one tough to watch.
That said, a win and a week to fix things has me just as optimistic as I was 3 hours ago.
One thing I really liked this game was adjustments that Josh made. The whole year he has been doing two things that have made me crazy (and made me wonder why the coaching staff wasn't fixing it): he picked up silly fouls setting screens and he failed to really seal off his man and get deep position to receive entry passes. Tonight, he did both of those things very well. Solid, strong screens that didn't give the officials a chance to blow the whistle. And a really good job of getting deep position. He didn't let guys push him out or poke the ball away.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 21, 2015 23:12:10 GMT -5
Tonight's plus/minus, as calculated from the play-by-play at guhoyas.com:
Copeland +11, Smith +11, Trawick +7, Smith-Rivera +5 (he played all forty minutes), White +1, Campbell -3, Bowen -4, Peak -5, Hopkns -6. All others were DNPs.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 21, 2015 23:13:35 GMT -5
Predictably uninspiring, but unpredictably close. I do think DePaul played tough and made shots at the exact times when it looked like we were about to close it out. But that all too standard mix of missed free throws and ugly turnovers made this one tough to watch. That said, a win and a week to fix things has me just as optimistic as I was 3 hours ago. One thing I really liked this game was adjustments that Josh made. The whole year he has been doing two things that have made me crazy (and made me wonder why the coaching staff wasn't fixing it): he picked up silly fouls setting screens and he failed to really seal off his man and get deep position to receive entry passes. Tonight, he did both of those things very well. Solid, strong screens that didn't give the officials a chance to blow the whistle. And a really good job of getting deep position. He didn't let guys push him out or poke the ball away. He was also very careful heding at the top of the key on the defensive end. Effective without the usual 1 or 2 unecessary fouls.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 21, 2015 23:15:32 GMT -5
Tonight's plus/minus, as calculated from the play-by-play at guhoyas.com: Copeland +11, Smith +11, Trawick +7, Smith-Rivera +5 (he played all forty minutes), White +1, Campbell -3, Bowen -4, Peak -5, Hopkns -6. All others were DNPs. That's not right on Smith-Rivera. He sat for a minute or two in 2nd half. EDIT: But maybe if it is for lews than 1 minute of actual game time it shows 40.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 21, 2015 23:17:43 GMT -5
This team lacks a true leader on the floor. DSR is supposed to be that leader but he's not. You can't have that happen at that point in the game. Top scorer. Top assist man. I don't even know how many weeks of BE honor roll. Clutch free throw shooter. Huge improvement on defense. Plays a new position on this team. Went from being quiet to a vocal leader. What else do you want from him?There's no pleasing some people. He could be President of the United States and these people would still say he's not a leader. The only reason this conversation ever comes up is because of this perception that Markel was this mega leader who somehow was extremely succesfull leading the Hoyas.
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 21, 2015 23:19:06 GMT -5
Tonight's plus/minus, as calculated from the play-by-play at guhoyas.com: Copeland +11, Smith +11, Trawick +7, Smith-Rivera +5 (he played all forty minutes), White +1, Campbell -3, Bowen -4, Peak -5, Hopkns -6. All others were DNPs. That's not right on Smith-Rivera. He sat for a minute or two in 2nd half. EDIT: But maybe if it is for lews than 1 minute of actual game time it shows 40. Official box now up shows him with 40 minutes. I think if he comes out they have to show him with 39, but my memory of that rule is dim at this point. www.guhoyas.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2014-2015/022115.html
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 21, 2015 23:25:41 GMT -5
I can appreciate that III played zone because there are times when it will be needed, but I still worry about us in those sets. We are chasing too much and leaving shooters open. I think that's what III will be most annoyed about. My guess is that they worked on that a lot because they planned to use it, but we didn't execute well. Fortunately, DePaul is not a very good team.
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Post by iverwig on Feb 21, 2015 23:26:22 GMT -5
MORE Leadership! Those were two bad plays towards the end of the game and it's not the first time he's done that. Being the leading scorer or top assist man doesn't mean you are consistently leading. Im going to stop posting about this because I don't want to get into me bashing DSR because he is a very good player but this team as a whole lacks a true leader come crunch time. Jabril has tried to be that player but he is not consistent or good enough. It's like another poster said this team can beat anyone or lose to anyone and a team with this type of talent Should not be that type of team. There are plenty of times this team looks lost on the floor and there have been games where the freshman look like the best players on the floor at crunch time and the more aggressive players. While the freshman are talented with two talented upperclass players like Josh and DSR they should be leading the team and taking over during those lost moments but instead they have trouble taking charge during those moments. This team lacks a true leader on the floor. DSR is supposed to be that leader but he's not. You can't have that happen at that point in the game. Top scorer. Top assist man. I don't even know how many weeks of BE honor roll. Clutch free throw shooter. Huge improvement on defense. Plays a new position on this team. Went from being quiet to a vocal leader. What else do you want from him?
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