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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 22, 2017 14:52:59 GMT -5
Can Division II and III kids come without sitting out a year? I am genuinely curious why we would go after JUCO kids but the Division II and III kids never get any attention. If they aren't eligible to transfer and immediately play, that would explain a lot. It's two semesters of residency regardless of division, except for a) junior college graduates and b) four year college grads. That's why a one year juco like John Turner sat out the 1987-88 season but a JC grad like Jerome Williams did not. I can think of two sub-Division I players and each of them sat a year: Johnny Jones (UDC, Div. II) and Ryan Dougherty (Rochester, Div. III). Any others? But Mulmore wasn't a JUCO graduate, right? Or is a JUCO "graduate" basically 2 years and an associates degree? |
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 22, 2017 15:10:16 GMT -5
Some the players recently listed with Georgetown interest seem like they might be good players who were undervalued in the recruiting process. Some may turn into really good college players, but why would anyone commit to Georgetown at this point? Is the staff that are recruiting these players telling them the coaching situation is settled and JT3 is here for the foreseeable future? They need to telling these kids something and it would be interesting to know what they are saying.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Mar 22, 2017 16:21:52 GMT -5
It's two semesters of residency regardless of division, except for a) junior college graduates and b) four year college grads. That's why a one year juco like John Turner sat out the 1987-88 season but a JC grad like Jerome Williams did not. I can think of two sub-Division I players and each of them sat a year: Johnny Jones (UDC, Div. II) and Ryan Dougherty (Rochester, Div. III). Any others? But Mulmore wasn't a JUCO graduate, right? Or is a JUCO "graduate" basically 2 years and an associates degree? Junior Colleges are two year schools that offer Associate degrees. |
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 22, 2017 17:15:36 GMT -5
Some the players recently listed with Georgetown interest seem like they might be good players who were undervalued in the recruiting process. Some may turn into really good college players, but why would anyone commit to Georgetown at this point? Is the staff that are recruiting these players telling them the coaching situation is settled and JT3 is here for the foreseeable future? They need to telling these kids something and it would be interesting to know what they are saying. Boston you know what they are telling kids if they are hosting. You may not like it but you know. Most likely JT3 is here for at least another season. |
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Mar 22, 2017 17:21:25 GMT -5
I believe Johnny Jones came direct from Coral Springs FL HS and went to UDC after he left GU
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 23, 2017 7:32:11 GMT -5
Some the players recently listed with Georgetown interest seem like they might be good players who were undervalued in the recruiting process. Some may turn into really good college players, but why would anyone commit to Georgetown at this point? Is the staff that are recruiting these players telling them the coaching situation is settled and JT3 is here for the foreseeable future? They need to telling these kids something and it would be interesting to know what they are saying. Boston you know what they are telling kids if they are hosting. You may not like it but you know. Most likely JT3 is here for at least another season. If I had to guess, I think you are right, that they are telling recruits JT3 is staying. If that is the case I just don't understand why the school/athletic department doesn't come out and give him the public "vote of confidence" and tell everyone they intend to have JT3 here for years to come and try to put some of the rumors to rest. |
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 23, 2017 9:09:23 GMT -5
Boston you know what they are telling kids if they are hosting. You may not like it but you know. Most likely JT3 is here for at least another season. If I had to guess, I think you are right, that they are telling recruits JT3 is staying. If that is the case I just don't understand why the school/athletic department doesn't come out and give him the public "vote of confidence" and tell everyone they intend to have JT3 here for years to come and try to put some of the rumors to rest. I haven't read through everything over the past several days, but it does seem likely that he is being retained, given that recruiting is active. My guess is that they're negotiating some sort of an extension that they can announce along with a vote of confidence. And my further guess is that they are negotiating the terms of that extension, such that his pay dramatically decreases per year over the course of it, perhaps with significant incentives based on team performance and a relatively low buy-out. To me, if you're going to retain the guy, that would be the way to do it. You announce that he's staying, you announce that he's been extended (and, thus, don't cut off his legs on the recruiting trail), you don't release the terms of the extension publicly, but you decrease his pay and the school's risk significantly, while allowing him to be "made whole" if the performance gets back to where it should be. |
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Post by Cambridge on Mar 23, 2017 10:17:16 GMT -5
If I had to guess, I think you are right, that they are telling recruits JT3 is staying. If that is the case I just don't understand why the school/athletic department doesn't come out and give him the public "vote of confidence" and tell everyone they intend to have JT3 here for years to come and try to put some of the rumors to rest. I haven't read through everything over the past several days, but it does seem likely that he is being retained, given that recruiting is active. My guess is that they're negotiating some sort of an extension that they can announce along with a vote of confidence. And my further guess is that they are negotiating the terms of that extension, such that his pay dramatically decreases per year over the course of it, perhaps with significant incentives based on team performance and a relatively low buy-out. To me, if you're going to retain the guy, that would be the way to do it. You announce that he's staying, you announce that he's been extended (and, thus, don't cut off his legs on the recruiting trail), you don't release the terms of the extension publicly, but you decrease his pay and the school's risk significantly, while allowing him to be "made whole" if the performance gets back to where it should be. This scenario makes the most sense to me. |
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Post by s4hoyas on Mar 23, 2017 10:35:09 GMT -5
I agree that this is the likely scenario...he and the staff will be given the opportunity to recruit through the spring/summer in an effort
to replenish the roster and "stop the bleeding" going forward...18 and 19 look like they have the potential to be very good recruiting years,
so the objective is to solidify things to that point (17-18) and then return to winning seasons thereafter...In spite of numerous valid criticisms,I personally
would prefer that after a huge "wakeup call," the program take this direction for now and will hopefully begin what will work out to be a significant turnaround...then, it can never be said that every opportunity was not given, or that adequate facilities were not available...I intend to be supportive, as at this point to be otherwise is simply counterproductive...lets hope for the best, as we are all Georgetown fans, and let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 23, 2017 10:42:50 GMT -5
If that scenario unfolds, we will have a low ceiling. The perception of the program is etched in stone at this point. Only a new coach can change that.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 23, 2017 10:44:21 GMT -5
I agree that this is the likely scenario...he and the staff will be given the opportunity to recruit through the spring/summer in an effort to replenish the roster and "stop the bleeding" going forward...18 and 19 look like they have the potential to be very good recruiting years, so the objective is to solidify things to that point (17-18) and then return to winning seasons thereafter...In spite of numerous valid criticisms,I personally would prefer that after a huge "wakeup call," the program take this direction for now and will hopefully begin what will work out to be a significant turnaround...then, it can never be said that every opportunity was not given, or that adequate facilities were not available...I intend to be supportive, as at this point to be otherwise is simply counterproductive...lets hope for the best, as we are all Georgetown fans, and let the chips fall where they may. Assuming this is right, the question is whether it has any impact on Waters. There's obviously something going on there, though we don't know what. Waters announced he was "removing himself" (his phrase) from Georgetown and the subsequent reporting indicated that Georgetown knew about it and was going to release him from his LOI. But, apparently, they haven't. If true, that's odd. From his perspective, if he is hell-bent on going somewhere other than Georgetown, you would think he'd be publicly clamoring for his release to force our hand. After all, potential landing spots could disappear at any time. Even if he isn't hell-bent on leaving, but wants to explore other options, I'd still think he'd be clamoring for his release. In that scenario, he could still re-sign with Georgetown if he tested the waters and decided he still liked Georgetown best. So, I'm not quite sure what to make of it, other than that it seems clear something is up. |
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Post by s4hoyas on Mar 23, 2017 11:07:59 GMT -5
I know nothing...but I would think/hope that they're doing everything possible to retain Tremont, as he would be a vital part of next year's team...
he's the leader we need...I would think retaining JT3 going forward/being extended, as well as who we can recruit short term to stabilize the roster, would
be major factors...he is a backup plan for some of the schools he previously listed, but he's our top priority...
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 13:35:04 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas315 on Mar 23, 2017 16:32:36 GMT -5
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 23, 2017 16:50:12 GMT -5
Boston you know what they are telling kids if they are hosting. You may not like it but you know. Most likely JT3 is here for at least another season. If I had to guess, I think you are right, that they are telling recruits JT3 is staying. If that is the case I just don't understand why the school/athletic department doesn't come out and give him the public "vote of confidence" and tell everyone they intend to have JT3 here for years to come and try to put some of the rumors to rest. Tells you how much I know.....lol....I hope the new coach can recruit high level guards. There is no reason why we can't get any of the top DMV guards. |
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 24, 2017 8:24:34 GMT -5
If I had to guess, I think you are right, that they are telling recruits JT3 is staying. If that is the case I just don't understand why the school/athletic department doesn't come out and give him the public "vote of confidence" and tell everyone they intend to have JT3 here for years to come and try to put some of the rumors to rest. Tells you how much I know.....lol....I hope the new coach can recruit high level guards. There is no reason why we can't get any of the top DMV guards. I wonder what happens to all the scholarship offers that are out there now to kids for this year or the 2018 and 2019 classes. Is it just a case of whoever the new coach is deciding if he want to honor those offers? I would assume it all kind of just works itself out as the prospective recruits meet the new coach and they decide together if Georgetown is going to be a good fit for them or not. Should be an interesting next few months!!! |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 24, 2017 10:46:38 GMT -5
Offers can always be withdrawn, I don't think the new coach could be compelled to honor them. But I would think he (or she!) would certainly at least kick the tires on anyone we have offered, especially since it will be late March or early April, we are down at least 4 roster spots, so we need a couple of bodies, which would still allow the new coach to recruit a couple on his own.
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 27, 2017 16:12:33 GMT -5
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Mar 29, 2017 17:47:50 GMT -5
Tai Bibbs: this is a nice looking kid worth looking at Somebody needs to make a move for this kid regardless who the coach is! This is some Josh Hart type $hit! |
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 3, 2017 12:48:28 GMT -5
3/4* 6'9" PF/C. We weren't on him originally but maybe this time around. Had offers from: Illinois, LSU, Long Beach State, Mississippi State, NC State, VCU
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