2017 Recruits

[hoyaboya]

Kante's offers as of 2/14/17:

Offers: Kennesaw St., Duquesne, St. Bonaventure, UNC Wilmington, Canisius, Iona, LIU, Fairleigh Dickinson, St. Bonaventure, St. Francis (NY), St. Joseph’s, UNC Greensboro, Robert Morris, Quinnipiac, St. Louis, Wagner, Dayton. Niagara, DePaul, Charlotte, Old Dominion, Kansas St.

www.ksuowlhowl.com/mens-basketball/recruiting/offered-2017/

[hoyaboya]

Writeup from the beginning of the season, looks like he reclassed due to being young for his class in 2017. Probably somebody Coach Slo has been tracking...

ISAAC KANTE, PF, PUTNAM SCIENCE ACADEMY, 2017
A reclass into the 2017 class thanks to having limited college interest out of the high school ranks but also due to his young age compared to his peers, Isaac Kante showed immediate production and value in the frontcourt in Connecticut. The 6-foot-8, strong and hard playing big man, is one of the more passionate and vocal big men that you’re going to find. He kicked off the event by making eight of his 10 shot attempts, equating to 19 points in all. The New York native left the weekend with an offer in hand from Old Dominion, though things are just now beginning to take off for Kante on the recruiting front. He brings good back to the rim skills, a hard hat mentality within traffic, and a bevy of intangibles where the Putnam product is someone that will see his stock soar in the weeks ahead.

www.hoopseen.com/news/general/201611/national-prep-showcase-breakout-performers

[DFW HOYA]

Mar 10, 2017 12:49:19 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Writeup from the beginning of the season, looks like he reclassed due to being young for his class in 2017. Probably somebody Coach Slo has been tracking...

ISAAC KANTE, PF, PUTNAM SCIENCE ACADEMY, 2017
A reclass into the 2017 class thanks to having limited college interest out of the high school ranks but also due to his young age compared to his peers, Isaac Kante showed immediate production and value in the frontcourt in Connecticut. The 6-foot-8, strong and hard playing big man, is one of the more passionate and vocal big men that you’re going to find. He kicked off the event by making eight of his 10 shot attempts, equating to 19 points in all. The New York native left the weekend with an offer in hand from Old Dominion, though things are just now beginning to take off for Kante on the recruiting front. He brings good back to the rim skills, a hard hat mentality within traffic, and a bevy of intangibles where the Putnam product is someone that will see his stock soar in the weeks ahead.

www.hoopseen.com/news/general/201611/national-prep-showcase-breakout-performers

His last three offers: Georgetown, DePaul and Fordham. Really, is this the best GU can do?

[sweetness]

This is how recruiting has been going for awhile. Wait until the end of the year and try to scoop up some undiscovered gem with less than stellar offers.

[eastcoastteddy58]

We need another scorer that can penetrate the gaps in the defense for next year, if not expect another poor/short season!

[hoyalove4ever]

I could not care less who has offered him, but I do care if he can play. Has anyone seen him? What type of athlete? Can he rebound??? Is he a high-major athlete???

[jld54]

This late in the season, this is generally the best that most any team can do. The exception is a one and done who waits to make sure a coach does not go to the pros, e.g., a Billy Donovan situation. A guy like this is a four year depth guy, with the plus that he is young for his age and may be a bit better prospect as a late bloomer.

There is otherwise no high level talent available to a most programs unless there is a HS decommit due to the coaching carousel, or a 5th year player.

Are we excited? No, but this is a depth/practice type guy.

[EtomicB]

Mar 10, 2017 13:09:02 GMT -5 jld54 said:

This late in the season, this is generally the best that most any team can do. The exception is a one and done who waits to make sure a coach does not go to the pros, e.g., a Billy Donovan situation. A guy like this is a four year depth guy, with the plus that he is young for his age and may be a bit better prospect as a late bloomer.

There is otherwise no high level talent available to a most programs unless there is a HS decommit due to the coaching carousel, or a 5th year player.

Are we excited? No, but this is a depth/practice type guy.

I know I'm a broken record with this but this is what happens when a program waits to get involved with kids..

If you go back in this thread you'll see potential prospects that were brought up since the season started, some are still available..

It's like groundhogs day with the staff, they need to try a new method imho..

[bamahoya11]

I liked the part of Kante's review where it said he's a good passer. In addition to shooters, we need someone who can pass and who can handle a pass. That has been a big problem recently, and, whatever offense JTIII does run, it's going to involve a lot of passing from interior guys. I kinda like the idea of this kid. Should we have done more earlier? Of course. But too late now. We have to do what we can, and heck, some of these guys might surprise us.

[hoyalove4ever]

Mar 10, 2017 13:58:15 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Mar 10, 2017 13:09:02 GMT -5 jld54 said:

This late in the season, this is generally the best that most any team can do. The exception is a one and done who waits to make sure a coach does not go to the pros, e.g., a Billy Donovan situation. A guy like this is a four year depth guy, with the plus that he is young for his age and may be a bit better prospect as a late bloomer.

There is otherwise no high level talent available to a most programs unless there is a HS decommit due to the coaching carousel, or a 5th year player.

Are we excited? No, but this is a depth/practice type guy.

I know I'm a broken record with this but this is what happens when a program waits to get involved with kids..

If you go back in this thread you'll see potential prospects that were brought up since the season started, some are still available..

It's like groundhogs day with the staff, they need to try a new method imho..

But are any of those kids interested in the Hoyas?

This tidbit of news is a good example about how a lot of things related to recruiting are not public news...obviously the Hoyas have been on this guy for longer than a few days, and none of us seem to have had any clue. I suspect there are many other players who the Hoyas are on or at least sending out feelers toward, but there is no need to follow up unless the interest goes both ways. Also, I suspect that the staff has looked at some (perhaps many) of the kids discussed on this board and made a conscious decision to pass, for any variety of reasons.

Again, huge respect for the information and analysis you provide, but I think the truth is that we really do not know about most of what is happening with recruiting and it all depends upon how much benefit of the doubt you are willing to give the staff.

[hoyalove4ever]

Mar 10, 2017 14:21:06 GMT -5 bamahoya11 said:

I liked the part of Kante's review where it said he's a good passer. In addition to shooters, we need someone who can pass and who can handle a pass. That has been a big problem recently, and, whatever offense JTIII does run, it's going to involve a lot of passing from interior guys. I kinda like the idea of this kid. Should we have done more earlier? Of course. But too late now. We have to do what we can, and heck, some of these guys might surprise us.

Good points. I am totally on board if he can rebound and is a Big East athlete.

[hoyaboya]

Mar 10, 2017 14:45:47 GMT -5 hoyalove4ever said:

Mar 10, 2017 13:58:15 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

I know I'm a broken record with this but this is what happens when a program waits to get involved with kids..

If you go back in this thread you'll see potential prospects that were brought up since the season started, some are still available..

It's like groundhogs day with the staff, they need to try a new method imho..

But are any of those kids interested in the Hoyas?

This tidbit of news is a good example about how a lot of things related to recruiting are not public news...obviously the Hoyas have been on this guy for longer than a few days, and none of us seem to have had any clue. I suspect there are many other players who the Hoyas are on or at least sending out feelers toward, but there is no need to follow up unless the interest goes both ways. Also, I suspect that the staff has looked at some (perhaps many) of the kids discussed on this board and made a conscious decision to pass, for any variety of reasons.

Again, huge respect for the information and analysis you provide, but I think the truth is that we really do not know about most of what is happening with recruiting and it all depends upon how much benefit of the doubt you are willing to give the staff.

I don't think there's any evidence of what's bolded above.

[EtomicB]

Mar 10, 2017 14:45:47 GMT -5 hoyalove4ever said:

Mar 10, 2017 13:58:15 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

I know I'm a broken record with this but this is what happens when a program waits to get involved with kids..

If you go back in this thread you'll see potential prospects that were brought up since the season started, some are still available..

It's like groundhogs day with the staff, they need to try a new method imho..

But are any of those kids interested in the Hoyas?

This tidbit of news is a good example about how a lot of things related to recruiting are not public news...obviously the Hoyas have been on this guy for longer than a few days, and none of us seem to have had any clue. I suspect there are many other players who the Hoyas are on or at least sending out feelers toward, but there is no need to follow up unless the interest goes both ways. Also, I suspect that the staff has looked at some (perhaps many) of the kids discussed on this board and made a conscious decision to pass, for any variety of reasons.

Again, huge respect for the information and analysis you provide, but I think the truth is that we really do not know about most of what is happening with recruiting and it all depends upon how much benefit of the doubt you are willing to give the staff.

Why do think it's obvious the staff has been on him for awhile?

[Hoyas4Ever]

Mar 10, 2017 15:05:34 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Mar 10, 2017 14:45:47 GMT -5 hoyalove4ever said:

But are any of those kids interested in the Hoyas?

This tidbit of news is a good example about how a lot of things related to recruiting are not public news...obviously the Hoyas have been on this guy for longer than a few days, and none of us seem to have had any clue. I suspect there are many other players who the Hoyas are on or at least sending out feelers toward, but there is no need to follow up unless the interest goes both ways. Also, I suspect that the staff has looked at some (perhaps many) of the kids discussed on this board and made a conscious decision to pass, for any variety of reasons.

Again, huge respect for the information and analysis you provide, but I think the truth is that we really do not know about most of what is happening with recruiting and it all depends upon how much benefit of the doubt you are willing to give the staff.

I don't think there's any evidence of what's bolded above.

If you look at my original post on Kante I included a tweet from February 15 that reported someone from the Hoyas coaching staff at the Putnam Science game that day along with other programs. I did that on purpose to illustrate the staff had seen him more than once...

[NCHoya]

So he is a low A10 type of player? I would welcome him with open arms if he was a shooter, otherwise, seems like a bit of a reach. Unfortunately, we do not have the luxury of leaving scholarships open because, as we know, the numbers always works out. So I am not against taking a shot on Kante, but we MUST find a shooter, that is a MUST HAVE at this point.

Hopefully the seasonal coaching purge opens up a few options as well.

[bostonfan]

Mar 10, 2017 14:21:06 GMT -5 bamahoya11 said:

I liked the part of Kante's review where it said he's a good passer. In addition to shooters, we need someone who can pass and who can handle a pass. That has been a big problem recently, and, whatever offense JTIII does run, it's going to involve a lot of passing from interior guys. I kinda like the idea of this kid. Should we have done more earlier? Of course. But too late now. We have to do what we can, and heck, some of these guys might surprise us.

I like the part where it says " 6-foot-8, strong and hard playing big man, is one of the more passionate and vocal big men that you’re going to find". I know nothing about this kid but if he shows up and is a good athlete who plays hard and can rebound, he will be more than a practice player for the Hoyas. I would be more concerned if they offered another 6'10" plodding big man, those types of guys just don't work in todays' college game.

[Hoyas4Ever]

Reading the comments about the staff offering Isaac Kante is too damn funny. Lmao on how posters who haven't seen even a 10 second clip of the kid playing are poo pooing the staffs effort or the possibility that this kid could be anything worth while because of the offers that he's procured, the lack of stars next to his profile and even calling him a practice player...again without seeing even a minute of him playing. Some of you can't wait to post on here and show your ignorance when it comes to recruiting.....Too funny!

Here what's reported about Kante, he's a NY city kid who played pretty well in the PSAL (New York City public school league) during his senior year. Same league that Jessie Govan played in at Wings Academy. Much like Antwan Walker is young for his age and decided to use that to his advantage and play a Prep year in one of the best High School/Prep Conferences in the country in the NEPSAC. He's had a solid season averaging 13 & 8 in the NEPSAC which were better numbers overall than Marcus Derrickson put up when he was at Brewsters Academy in the NEPSAC. The only difference was Derrickson was anointed as a high major prospect entering his freshman year of high school and was on Georgetown and several other high major programs radar very early. The staff has seen him at least twice. It's very possible this kid is a late bloomer that's a great fit for JT3's system (whatever it is or will be) with tremendous upside or he's not a fit for JT3's system and not good enough to play at the BIG EAST. Kante could commit to Georgetown and average 10 & 6 his freshman year or not play a minute. Let him commit to DePaul and put up 12 & 6 and be and be named to the All Freshman Team and then watch the JT3 haters come out of the woodworks because he didn't get this kid.  My point is, none of us know anything about this kid or what he can do and become. The perfect science known as college recruiting (for the slow ones on here that's sarcasm) has shown one thing to be true, no one knows how good a kid will be until the players suit up and the season starts, not even the coaches. 

The one thing I'm for sure happy about is that instead of sticking their head in the sand, member(s) of the staff coming off a brutal loss and end of the season are out the very next day evaluating and recruiting potential prospects and watching Hoyas commit Antwan Walker play as he was in the same tournament. 

[daytonahoya31]

I know a lot of people up that way in Connecticut who would know this kid well. I'll dig around. I haven't seen him

[daytonahoya31]

The following is an exact quote on Kante from a head coach that's in his conference and played him three times this season.

"He's Undersized for Big East...but he's a dog! But hey, I also thought Bonzi Colson was undersized when I heard he was going to Notre Dame"

If what he's saying is true, and I trust this coach 100 percent, his mentality is just what we need. We need guys who play hard and who go after it.

[augustusfinknottle]

Things being what they are he may turn us down.