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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2015 23:11:05 GMT -5
It's not necessary. It appears your argument against is a philosophical and not based on what you've seen the kid do and not do. That's fine but you taking time to look at said player after you've already basically made up your mind based on his measurables isn't really going to add much other than you confirming that Bias... You got me excited on his footage then when I looked at it I wasn't impressed. Wasn't as fast as I expected him to be, and he has a low release point on his outside shot and attacks at the basket which I think at the next level may get blocked or alters his shot. Also he doesn't have a quick release which is essential for a short player. That's what Damon Stoudemaire and Chris Jackson (who was often matched up with 6-5 shooting guards) had. Those were my initial impressions of him from watching him a couple months ago but I'll take a look again and have a more detailed breakdown. I just see a lot of what ifs that might not translate to the next level of high major competition on top of him being undersized. (Which as I said initially philophicaly I prefer length, height, athleticism and at least one elite level skill at each position). It can happen at a lot of position a power forward who is an inch or two too short and ends up being a tweeter or a wing like Domingo who just can't produce at the next level of competition. Lol... Proff we get it you don't like the kid, but let's not pretend like you're giving an honest evaluation, you're not.. Now can you leave the discussion for those that are interested and stop chiming in with the same redundant posts... |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 13, 2015 0:11:49 GMT -5
You know who has seen the kid in person and made a great evaluation of Bracey, JT3 and the staff have. They obviously liked what they saw because they offered him last December. They could have kept watching him and evaluating him to see how his game progresses but no, JT3 offered and Bracey has been on several unofficial visits during last season including attending several home games and the teams NCAA Tournament selection show party. It was even reported several times over the this summer that the staff had a coach checking in on Bracey during July's live evaluation period. So it really doesn't matter what any of us think if JT3 wants him, the kid must be able to play.
BTW I have also seen the kid play in person, and yes he can really play. A lot of people on this thread seem to believe this kid can't shoot. Where this belief came from, I have no idea but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Bracey is not DSR, Austin Freeman, Myles Powell, or even Curtis Jones who is a streaky shooter, but he will definitely keep defenses honest and he can improve his shooting abilities over his 4 years on campus. Plus his other abilities make him a very talented prospect. All this probably doesn't matter because I don't think the staff is going to go after him now that Mosely on board. Just a hunch.
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Post by rockhoya on Aug 13, 2015 0:21:03 GMT -5
You know who has seen the kid in person and made a great evaluation of Bracey, JT3 and the staff have. They obviously liked what they saw because they offered him last December. They could have kept watching him and evaluating him to see how his game progresses but no, JT3 offered and Bracey has been on several unofficial visits during last season including attending several home games and the teams NCAA Tournament selection show party. It was even reported several times over the this summer that the staff had a coach checking in on Bracey during July's live evaluation period. So it really doesn't matter what any of us think if JT3 wants him, the kid must be able to play. BTW I have also seen the kid play in person, and yes he can really play. A lot of people on this thread seem to believe this kid can't shoot. Where this belief came from, I have no idea but it couldn't be farther from the truth. Bracey is not DSR, Austin Freeman, Myles Powell, or even Curtis Jones who is a streaky shooter, but he will definitely keep defenses honest and he can improve his shooting abilities over his 4 years on campus. Plus his other abilities make him a very talented prospect. All this probably doesn't matter because I don't think the staff is going to go after him now that Mosely on board. Just a hunch. Very sound analysis |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Aug 14, 2015 12:29:18 GMT -5
It's a really risky offer in my mind. I personally hope it falls through.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 14, 2015 12:32:17 GMT -5
It's a really risky offer in my mind. I personally hope it falls through. Why, Height Czar? (ducks) |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Aug 14, 2015 13:20:06 GMT -5
Well, if you insist...hahahah...
I actually doubt Bracey signs now that we have signed Jagan. My guess/hope is that he staff will prioritize a taller shooter over a smaller speedster.
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Post by daymondmyles on Aug 16, 2015 12:49:31 GMT -5
Delayed his announcement. Would be surprised if he ends up a Hoya.
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Post by Talos on Aug 16, 2015 16:02:52 GMT -5
Delayed his announcement. Would be surprised if he ends up a Hoya. Any reason for thinking that? Or simply because we don't do well with drawn out recruitments? |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Aug 16, 2015 16:36:02 GMT -5
I think the only reason to delay his announcement would have to be because he's no longer coming to Georgetown. Whether that was his choice or not is up to debate, but the idea has long been that he was coming to Georgetown but wanted to wait to announce on his Mom's birthday. That's not happening anymore. So either he changed his mind or we did.
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Post by daymondmyles on Aug 16, 2015 18:12:19 GMT -5
I think priorities changed. Hard to have 3 people on the roster that can really only play 1 position (Tre, Jagan and Day Day).
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Post by dreamhoya on Aug 16, 2015 20:41:39 GMT -5
Unfortunate if true. I prefer Bracey.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 0:50:06 GMT -5
I think priorities changed. Hard to have 3 people on the roster that can really only play 1 position (Tre, Jagan and Day Day). Doubt anything happens here but Jagan can play the 1-2. Based on what I've seen he's more a 2 than a 1 tbh. Of course he has time to develop his PG skills... |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 17, 2015 2:00:28 GMT -5
I think priorities changed. Hard to have 3 people on the roster that can really only play 1 position (Tre, Jagan and Day Day). Doubt anything happens here but Jagan can play the 1-2. Based on what I've seen he's more a 2 than a 1 tbh. Of course he has time to develop his PG skills... Hey YaBoy this might be the first time I disagree with you. I watched everything you have posted and went searching for other available videos on this kid (had to much free time last week), and I think in the Hoyas system, Mosely translates right now to the PG more then the SG. The kids got great court vision and feel for the game and better then advertised handle. Hard to judge his shot because he is a very very selective perimeter shooter. He is far from a gunner and would be the best passing guard on the roster next year (based on who we know will be on roster right now). I actually think that when Mosely is on the floor with Tre, Mosely would be the 1 and Campbell would move to the 2 because Tre is definitely a better and more aggressive perimeter shooter. They probably would cross match on defense based on matchups but on offense I definitely see Campbell off the ball much the same way Tre moves DSR off the ball when their in the game together. I do do agree with you YaBoy and I've been saying even before we got Jagan Mosely that I doubted we were getting Bracey. I think we have backed off him completely once we got Mosely (just a hunch) and I do believe that plays a big part into why Bracey has canceled his commitment date. I don't think Mosely and Bracey make sense when you have only 3 available scholarships. Now if Bracey waits to the spring and we have a few players leave for the association then maybe the staff revisits Bracey. It's a shame because the kid can play. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 5:13:37 GMT -5
Doubt anything happens here but Jagan can play the 1-2. Based on what I've seen he's more a 2 than a 1 tbh. Of course he has time to develop his PG skills... Hey YaBoy this might be the first time I disagree with you. I watched everything you have posted and went searching for other available videos on this kid (had to much free time last week), and I think in the Hoyas system, Mosely translates right now to the PG more then the SG. The kids got great court vision and feel for the game and better then advertised handle. Hard to judge his shot because he is a very very selective perimeter shooter. He is far from a gunner and would be the best passing guard on the roster next year (based on who we know will be on roster right now). I actually think that when Mosely is on the floor with Tre, Mosely would be the 1 and Campbell would move to the 2 because Tre is definitely a better and more aggressive perimeter shooter. They probably would cross match on defense based on matchups but on offense I definitely see Campbell off the ball much the same way Tre moves DSR off the ball when their in the game together. I do do agree with you YaBoy and I've been saying even before we got Jagan Mosely that I doubted we were getting Bracey. I think we have backed off him completely once we got Mosely (just a hunch) and I do believe that plays a big part into why Bracey has canceled his commitment date. I don't think Mosely and Bracey make sense when you have only 3 available scholarships. Now if Bracey waits to the spring and we have a few players leave for the association then maybe the staff revisits Bracey. It's a shame because the kid can play. You're not disagreeing with me I was speaking about the present, what he's shown up to date not the future. He can play some PG for stretches, but he doesn't look comfortable doing it full time yet. He's never been a full time guy, so he needs time to develop. Probably takes him a year or 2 on campus to get comfortable in a full time lead role. Hopefully Hurley gives him more PG minutes this year to accelerate the process. Either way he has time Somewhat OT but there's a clip of Bracey and Mosely playing together in this thread. They were on the same team at the Oladipo camp. Both looked good |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 17:22:09 GMT -5
St Joes. The Hall and Temple all jumped in the mix recently. Somebody is going to get a good basketball player…
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Post by Talos on Sept 1, 2015 16:39:41 GMT -5
St Joes. The Hall and Temple all jumped in the mix recently. Somebody is going to get a good basketball player… So if we miss out on Jones, Brown, and Seventh, do we jump back in on Daquan? Or has that ship sailed? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 16:46:22 GMT -5
St Joes. The Hall and Temple all jumped in the mix recently. Somebody is going to get a good basketball player… So if we miss out on Jones, Brown, and Seventh, do we jump back in on Daquan? Or has that ship sailed? No idea tbh... |
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Post by blueandgray on Sept 1, 2015 16:54:36 GMT -5
Ship is still at the dock.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 1, 2015 20:13:16 GMT -5
Ship is still at the dock. Good to know blue. Any idea when it will decide its port of call? |
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Sept 2, 2015 11:31:14 GMT -5
Wasn't the plan that he would declare on his mother's birthday -- September 9?
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