Daquan Bracey 16 PG verbal to Louisiana Tech

[hoyazeke]

Bracey, Jones/Hunter (whomever pops first) and DeLaurier.......this would be a great class......??

[EtomicB]

Shouldn't his recruitment start jumpin' off soon? He's less than 2 months away from his announcement..

Is he that much a G'town lock that even A-10, C-USA or Colonial type schools won't get involved?

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Out of site out of mind....

[EtomicB]

Jul 13, 2015 20:06:23 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Out of site out of mind....

But his team played this weekend at the Hoop Group event..

Judging from twitter posts there were a lot of schools/scouts in attendance but not one write up on how he or his team played.. Is this seriously by design?

You have to admit this is very different from most recruiting stories..

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Jul 13, 2015 20:55:56 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jul 13, 2015 20:06:23 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Out of site out of mind....

But his team played this weekend at the Hoop Group event..

Judging from twitter posts there were a lot of schools/scouts in attendance but not one write up on how he or his team played.. Is this seriously by design?

You have to admit this is very different from most recruiting stories..

Ahhh... That's probably because they didn't play in the Heavily scouted Tourney where the majority of those teams participated. They played in the "Nook" bracket or the Open Bracket. 1 event but 2 separate tournaments

They finished 2-1 I think... His recruitment is different because Bmore Finest decided not to field a 17u team this year, he elected to play for the neighborhood association rather than seek out another AAU squad. It might get frustrating for fans because we want to see how he shapes up against other HM prospects but at the end of the day playing Nike EYBL isn't necessarily going to make him a better player, so I personally don't really care either way...

Choo Smith played College and Pro (Europe) before the Globtrotters so he understands the game and they spend a lot of time focusing on skill training

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Invited to the Victor Olidipo/Ty Lawson All America Camp July 15-17th....

[jwp91]

What is the business model for these camps? Someone is making money. Who is it and how?

[TBird41]

Jul 14, 2015 1:54:51 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Jul 13, 2015 20:55:56 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

But his team played this weekend at the Hoop Group event..

Judging from twitter posts there were a lot of schools/scouts in attendance but not one write up on how he or his team played.. Is this seriously by design?

You have to admit this is very different from most recruiting stories..

Ahhh... That's probably because they didn't play in the Heavily scouted Tourney where the majority of those teams participated. They played in the "Nook" bracket or the Open Bracket. 1 event but 2 separate tournaments

They finished 2-1 I think... His recruitment is different because Bmore Finest decided not to field a 17u team this year, he elected to play for the neighborhood association rather than seek out another AAU squad. It might get frustrating for fans because we want to see how he shapes up against other HM prospects but at the end of the day playing Nike EYBL isn't necessarily going to make him a better player, so I personally don't really care either way...

Choo Smith played College and Pro (Europe) before the Globtrotters so he understands the game and they spend a lot of time focusing on skill training

That sounds crazy to me. How is he going to get exposure if all he's doing is working on his skills instead of playing tons of AAU tournaments? I mean, without the experience AAU brings, you're going to be way behind your peers. You can probably kiss the Big East all-rookie team goodbye, that's for sure. No way he's able to even contribute by sophomore year if he doesn't play a ton of AAU ball, let alone be an impact player. Basically guaranteeing you're going to be a four year player, probably no major individual awards. And getting into the first round of the draft? No chance without AAU.

[rockhoya]

Jul 14, 2015 9:39:10 GMT -5 TBird41 said:

Jul 14, 2015 1:54:51 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Ahhh... That's probably because they didn't play in the Heavily scouted Tourney where the majority of those teams participated. They played in the "Nook" bracket or the Open Bracket. 1 event but 2 separate tournaments

They finished 2-1 I think... His recruitment is different because Bmore Finest decided not to field a 17u team this year, he elected to play for the neighborhood association rather than seek out another AAU squad. It might get frustrating for fans because we want to see how he shapes up against other HM prospects but at the end of the day playing Nike EYBL isn't necessarily going to make him a better player, so I personally don't really care either way...

Choo Smith played College and Pro (Europe) before the Globtrotters so he understands the game and they spend a lot of time focusing on skill training

That sounds crazy to me. How is he going to get exposure if all he's doing is working on his skills instead of playing tons of AAU tournaments? I mean, without the experience AAU brings, you're going to be way behind your peers. You can probably kiss the Big East all-rookie team goodbye, that's for sure. No way he's able to even contribute by sophomore year if he doesn't play a ton of AAU ball, let alone be an impact player. Basically guaranteeing you're going to be a four year player, probably no major individual awards. And getting into the first round of the draft? No chance without AAU.

Lol

[geedell]

If the kid was looking for exposure, he'd probab be playing on one of the main circuits.

Seems like he probably knows where he wants to go

[TBird41]

Jul 14, 2015 9:55:08 GMT -5 geedell said:

If the kid was looking for exposure, he'd probab be playing on one of the main circuits.

Seems like he probably knows where he wants to go

The part about missing the all rookie team was supposed to be your clue that I wasn't serious

www.casualhoya.com/2012/3/4/2844115/the-snubbing-of-otto-porter-an-injustice-that-should-have-james

[geedell]

Jul 14, 2015 10:21:42 GMT -5 TBird41 said:

Jul 14, 2015 9:55:08 GMT -5 geedell said:

If the kid was looking for exposure, he'd probab be playing on one of the main circuits.

Seems like he probably knows where he wants to go

The part about missing the all rookie team was supposed to be your clue that I wasn't serious

www.casualhoya.com/2012/3/4/2844115/the-snubbing-of-otto-porter-an-injustice-that-should-have-james

Easy buddy. I knew you weren't serious. I was speaking to larger conversation going on in here.

[EtomicB]

Jul 14, 2015 1:54:51 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Jul 13, 2015 20:55:56 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

But his team played this weekend at the Hoop Group event..

Judging from twitter posts there were a lot of schools/scouts in attendance but not one write up on how he or his team played.. Is this seriously by design?

You have to admit this is very different from most recruiting stories..

Ahhh... That's probably because they didn't play in the Heavily scouted Tourney where the majority of those teams participated. They played in the "Nook" bracket or the Open Bracket. 1 event but 2 separate tournaments

They finished 2-1 I think... His recruitment is different because Bmore Finest decided not to field a 17u team this year, he elected to play for the neighborhood association rather than seek out another AAU squad. It might get frustrating for fans because we want to see how he shapes up against other HM prospects but at the end of the day playing Nike EYBL isn't necessarily going to make him a better player, so I personally don't really care either way...

Choo Smith played College and Pro (Europe) before the Globtrotters so he understands the game and they spend a lot of time focusing on skill training

I hear you Yaboy but that's not what I'm talkin' about... Forget aau affiliation, camps or rankings.. I'm wondering why a talented kids recruitment isn't ramping up during the hottest time on the recruiting calendar?

I ask again(rhetorically I know) is Bracey that much of a G'town lock that other schools are staying away?

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Jul 14, 2015 11:49:01 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jul 14, 2015 1:54:51 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Ahhh... That's probably because they didn't play in the Heavily scouted Tourney where the majority of those teams participated. They played in the "Nook" bracket or the Open Bracket. 1 event but 2 separate tournaments

They finished 2-1 I think... His recruitment is different because Bmore Finest decided not to field a 17u team this year, he elected to play for the neighborhood association rather than seek out another AAU squad. It might get frustrating for fans because we want to see how he shapes up against other HM prospects but at the end of the day playing Nike EYBL isn't necessarily going to make him a better player, so I personally don't really care either way...

Choo Smith played College and Pro (Europe) before the Globtrotters so he understands the game and they spend a lot of time focusing on skill training

I hear you Yaboy but that's not what I'm talkin' about... Forget aau affiliation, camps or rankings.. I'm wondering why a talented kids recruitment isn't ramping up during the hottest time on the recruiting calendar?

I ask again(rhetorically I know) is Bracey that much of a G'town lock that other schools are staying away?

Well then my original comment applies.. Out of sight out of mind. You have to be seen to be recruited and even if other schools were jumping in we wouldn't hear about it since the events he's attending aren't being covered..

You could have asked the same question about Marcus Lovett this time last summer because he also didn't play on the Big circuit. Coaches are going to recruit what's in front of them unless they have already deemed that player a priority.

[EtomicB]

Jul 14, 2015 12:01:14 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Jul 14, 2015 11:49:01 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

I hear you Yaboy but that's not what I'm talkin' about... Forget aau affiliation, camps or rankings.. I'm wondering why a talented kids recruitment isn't ramping up during the hottest time on the recruiting calendar?

I ask again(rhetorically I know) is Bracey that much of a G'town lock that other schools are staying away?

Well then my original comment applies.. Out of sight out of mind. You have to be seen to be recruited and even if other schools were jumping in we wouldn't hear about it since the events he's attending aren't being covered..

You could have asked the same question about Marcus Lovett this time last summer because he also didn't play on the Big circuit. Coaches are going to recruit what's in front of them unless they have already deemed that player a priority.

But he has been seen, we're talkin' about a player who was 1st team BCL his Jr. year.. The BCL is still a pretty respected conference right?

He caught enough eyes to be offered by G'town, K-State, Dayton, Towson & others, hard for me to see all of them forgetting about him cause he's not on a high profile aau team..

What about local schools like Maryland Eastern shore or American or UMBC.. What about Regional schools like George Mason, VMI, VCU ect..

In fairness it's not that late in the summer and his recruitment could explode at any moment as it has for others but I really did think a good amount of interest would come his way this month..

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Its still mostly the same answer. Marcus Lovett had been seen and had a much higher profile yet same scenario....

Why would a hm coach go to a small tourney with a few players that are hm when he could go to the nike tourney the same weekend amd watch 100+ kids who can play at that level?
Kids talented but hes not Andrew Wiggins. There's only a few open periods and teams need to add multiple pieces not just 1 guy


on the flipside, If those schools decided to send a coach to scout. Since the events aren't covered how would we hear about it?

Umbc isnt going to recruit a kid with hm offers. Total waste of time and money.. levels...

[EtomicB]

Jul 14, 2015 17:59:50 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Its still mostly the same answer. Marcus Lovett had been seen and had a much higher profile yet same scenario....

Why would a hm coach go to a small tourney with a few players that are hm when he could go to the nike tourney the same weekend amd watch 100+ kids who can play at that level?
Kids talented but hes not Andrew Wiggins. There's only a few open periods and teams need to add multiple pieces not just 1 guy


on the flipside, If those schools decided to send a coach to scout. Since the events aren't covered how would we hear about it?

Umbc isnt going to recruit a kid with hm offers. Total waste of time and money.. levels...

I didn't follow Lovette's recruitment that closely but I thought he moved around a lot, didn't he bounce back & forth between Chicago & California, change school's a number of times ect.?

After I saw your post on where Bracey's team was playing this weekend I followed Hoop Group on twitter.. There was a lot of good info on schools in attendance, games, kids play & who was gettin' offers.. There was one tweet about Choo's matchup with a Canadian team but no follow-up..

I don't expect many HM coaches(especially Blue Bloods) to be at the HG tourney while Peach Jam & the Phenom events were going on however I do think schools know/have known who they'd like to see and who they think they have a shot at getting..

PC just offered 2 kids today from a non big 3 aau team in River Reign, not sure whether they played at HG this weekend but according to Vantage Hoops they played an HG event earlier this spring.. The kids are 6-2 guard Maliek White & 6-8 pf Jermaine Mathews both have a number of MM offers but both have now been offered by HM schools BC & PC..

In PC's case I'd bet Cooley is trying to set up fall back plans if his main targets for 2016 go elsewhere but in BC's case they're probably trying to establish themselves with the best of the rest before other schools come swoopin in after they missed out on the bigger kids..

The bottom line to me is I think schools will chase talent regardless of where it plays and seeing that Bracey is touted to be a talented kid I really expected to see offers from the James Madison's or URI type programs during this period..

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Jul 14, 2015 20:57:31 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

Jul 14, 2015 17:59:50 GMT -5 @yaboynyp said:

Its still mostly the same answer. Marcus Lovett had been seen and had a much higher profile yet same scenario....

Why would a hm coach go to a small tourney with a few players that are hm when he could go to the nike tourney the same weekend amd watch 100+ kids who can play at that level?
Kids talented but hes not Andrew Wiggins. There's only a few open periods and teams need to add multiple pieces not just 1 guy


on the flipside, If those schools decided to send a coach to scout. Since the events aren't covered how would we hear about it?

Umbc isnt going to recruit a kid with hm offers. Total waste of time and money.. levels...

I didn't follow Lovette's recruitment that closely but I thought he moved around a lot, didn't he bounce back & forth between Chicago & California, change school's a number of times ect.?

After I saw your post on where Bracey's team was playing this weekend I followed Hoop Group on twitter.. There was a lot of good info on schools in attendance, games, kids play & who was gettin' offers.. There was one tweet about Choo's matchup with a Canadian team but no follow-up..

I don't expect many HM coaches(especially Blue Bloods) to be at the HG tourney while Peach Jam & the Phenom events were going on however I do think schools know/have known who they'd like to see and who they think they have a shot at getting..

PC just offered 2 kids today from a non big 3 aau team in River Reign, not sure whether they played at HG this weekend but according to Vantage Hoops they played an HG event earlier this spring.. The kids are 6-2 guard Maliek White & 6-8 pf Jermaine Mathews both have a number of MM offers but both have now been offered by HM schools BC & PC..

In PC's case I'd bet Cooley is trying to set up fall back plans if his main targets for 2016 go elsewhere but in BC's case they're probably trying to establish themselves with the best of the rest before other schools come swoopin in after they missed out on the bigger kids..

The bottom line to me is I think schools will chase talent regardless of where it plays and seeing that Bracey is touted to be a talented kid I really expected to see offers from the James Madison's or URI type programs during this period..

He didn't play Summer AAU (Grades, family decision) and that's why his recruitment didn't take off until his Senior season. As a Frosh Soph he was highly rated but he fell out the top 100 once he stopped playing AAU..

I think you searching for answers I can't give you. River City Reign is sponsored by AI btw.. Haha... They play on the Bigshots circuit, which is pretty heavily scouted especially by MM's. Team Choo plays on the Zero Gravity circuit which is not. If they played on the Big Shots circuit he would have more attention and offers.

I don't really see how that benefits Georgetown though.

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Jul 14, 2015 6:53:21 GMT -5 jwp91 said:

What is the business model for these camps? Someone is making money. Who is it and how?

Their sponsored by the shoe companies.. They will eventually want to sign some kids to contracts in the future, that's how they recoup.

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