dense
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Post by dense on Oct 23, 2015 22:36:53 GMT -5
Unfortunately social media is the reality and everyone with an opinion can find a forum in which to express their views. Recruits of Division 1 schools have to adjust as the complaints from fans that used to be limited to game time comments and talk radio now can be blasted out into the internet with little accountability or filtering. Not easy but I venture to say that it is the same everywhere and it kind of goes with the territory. I am certain a kid with aspirations to play at a high level expects this type of Internet debate and if not probably will not handle the rigors of being a recruit at a major program. Honestly, you can't get caught up in what's on the internet pertaining to yourself if you are a high level athlete, fighter, actor, etc, etc. It will drive you crazy. Best to stay off the internet when reading about oneself and not caring about what people write about you. There will either be to much praise or brown nosing which will give you an overinflated ego or overestimation of your own skillset or on the other spectrum criticism, negativity, and attacks that can get personal (and have nothing to do with the sport) that can bring you down if you let it. Keep a twitter account if you have to but you shouldn't be reading about yourself on the internet or websites. i like how you are expecting this out of a kid in high school to be that sophisicated. Not saying they cant be but come on now. My biggest complaint about that article and some commenters here is that they have never seen the player play and already know that he isnt good enough.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 24, 2015 0:17:59 GMT -5
Honestly, you can't get caught up in what's on the internet pertaining to yourself if you are a high level athlete, fighter, actor, etc, etc. It will drive you crazy. Best to stay off the internet when reading about oneself and not caring about what people write about you. There will either be to much praise or brown nosing which will give you an overinflated ego or overestimation of your own skillset or on the other spectrum criticism, negativity, and attacks that can get personal (and have nothing to do with the sport) that can bring you down if you let it. Keep a twitter account if you have to but you shouldn't be reading about yourself on the internet or websites. i like how you are expecting this out of a kid in high school to be that sophisicated. Not saying they cant be but come on now. My biggest complaint about that article and some commenters here is that they have never seen the player play and already know that he isnt good enough. It happens everywhere. Look at the Norvel thread. Someone just posted how they think the "high school" kid Norvell isn't good enough either. I disagree with that. I think Norvel is a Peja Stojakovic type assassin but I will defend to the death the right for that poster to have an opinion. Is that going to "break" Norvel if he reads it. Maybe. But it's just one opinion. Look at the way some on here have treated JTIII or Nikita or Lubick or Benimon or Joshua Smith. There would be nothing to talk about if you couldn't comment positively or negatively on them. I'm sure most people in the program were told not to read this board. I think even B&G commented on that about recruits being told not to read this board or warned about it (something to that effect) because of all the JTIII bashing that has happened by a small faction of people over the last couple years.
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Post by prhoya on Oct 24, 2015 1:10:21 GMT -5
If he ends up somewhere else, I know I don't want GU to face his team in the NCAA Tournament. He'll have the game of his life vs GU and be the face of the tournament for the first two weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 2:20:24 GMT -5
Ok huuuuuuuge difference between posters bantering back and forth on a message board about the value of a player and posting an article On a popular website that is going to be promoted all across the WEB on Twitter, Facebook, other SB Nation Sites etc. Nobody is promoting their Hoyatalk posts on twitter. Daquan didn't even see Casuals post he saw the link from the Marquette SB Nation Twitter account weeks after the fact.
The writer of said article does really good work, but whenever I have written articles for Casual I only really focus on the Positives of said recruit. They're still 17-18 year old kids. On a site like that If you want my personal opinions about tthe recruits I'm writing on that's what a PM is for or the Comment section if it's not too negative.. Message boards are a different animal..
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Oct 24, 2015 5:22:14 GMT -5
How does the coaching staff feel about him is the primary agenda. The CH article is just an opinion piece. about Bracey. If fans of a school you like are saying recruiting you is a failure of the staff why would you want to go there. And don't be naive enough to think he hasn't seen it He's under the radar (as most Georgetown recruits), and is probably at the very bottom of the pecking order to recruit from by the staff. If he's really caught up in what an opinion piece felt about him, he's probably in the wrong business and may have to look elsewhere or take up another craft. I don't think the article was written harshly about him, it seemed balanced about Bracey.
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Post by aristides on Oct 24, 2015 6:43:13 GMT -5
I feel like both views have validity. Seems to me that criticism of a potential recruit on a popular website is not a good way to attract that recruit to the school and also that these kids should probably be prepared for criticism at this level.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2015 7:00:49 GMT -5
If the school has had a "wait until we mean it" type offer in place for months, an article from a blog isn't going to be changing his mind.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 24, 2015 7:16:30 GMT -5
Honestly, you can't get caught up in what's on the internet pertaining to yourself if you are a high level athlete, fighter, actor, etc, etc. It will drive you crazy. Best to stay off the internet when reading about oneself and not caring about what people write about you. There will either be to much praise or brown nosing which will give you an overinflated ego or overestimation of your own skillset or on the other spectrum criticism, negativity, and attacks that can get personal (and have nothing to do with the sport) that can bring you down if you let it. Keep a twitter account if you have to but you shouldn't be reading about yourself on the internet or websites. i like how you are expecting this out of a kid in high school to be that sophisicated. Not saying they cant be but come on now. My biggest complaint about that article and some commenters here is that they have never seen the player play and already know that he isnt good enough. Agree that it is expecting a lot for a high school kid to ignore the internet/social media postings, both positive and negative. Also agree that there are those whose opinion is not always based upon any personal evaluation or watching the kid play and therefore questionable. But what can you do? It is the world we live in now. With my kids as well as the kids I have coached, we just told them that if you read the social media you are going to have to develop very thick skin. Sometimes criticism worked well as a motivation. Sometimes it did not, but how can you change it?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 24, 2015 10:08:16 GMT -5
true but an article by the site is a different thing. In fairness this is how the writer ends the article in question.. D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, who is now a senior, was the team's last consensus top-100 lead guard prospect, a span in which the team has brought in five top-100 forwards (Cameron, Copeland, White, Derrickson, Govan) and one top-100 wing (Peak). For a program of Georgetown's status, that is extremely disappointing.
On the other hand, I believe recruiting rankings are overrated and I trust the staff's player evaluation ability. In addition, Bracey has been consistently praised for his intangibles, and I think those are attributes that are overlooked in recruiting circles. There's something to be said for a solid, smart player who knows his strengths and weaknesses and will play for the team and not himself. After losing out on Brown and Jones and with Seventh Woods looking more and more like a pipe dream, Bracey would be a fine late addition to the class.
Still, at some point Georgetown will have to figure out how to attract top guard prospects again.Doesn't this count for something? trove.com/a/Recruiting-Update-Meet-Daquan-Bracey.WldnM?utm_campaign=hosted&utm_medium=twitter&ts=1444431776&utm_source=sns&nocrawl=1Nope. That was a poorly written article. The article is full of contradictory positions. The author tried to be on both sides of the fence simultaneously. Plus, he said Bracey's recruitment was somehow an indictment of our recruitment, a statement with which I totally disagree.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 24, 2015 10:14:00 GMT -5
Agreed. You can't change it...it's the world we live in. You can only hope that a potential recruit, a kid we like, wouldn't take offense to it.
I take some exception however when a blog that focuses on a specific team and which is hungry for content will put things out there to make themselves look more important or more knowledgable then they are. They write about players they have never seen play and will often blur the lines between fact and opinion. There are some good people that work at these blogs, but I'd prefer that they just dispense the information they have without leaning on subjective analysis which can be wrong and is often sensationalized.
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 24, 2015 12:47:47 GMT -5
Cognitive Dissonance.
How can it be that both: 1. Our recruitment of top guards over the last 4-5 years has been disastrous 2. Top 100-150 guards, whom many believe have much higher upside, are not "good enough" to play at GU and won't be able to earn PT?
Both of those statements can't possibly be true, can they?
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dense
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Post by dense on Oct 24, 2015 14:36:57 GMT -5
Ok huuuuuuuge difference between posters bantering back and forth on a message board about the value of a player and posting an article On a popular website that is going to be promoted all across the WEB on Twitter, Facebook, other SB Nation Sites etc. Nobody is promoting their Hoyatalk posts on twitter. Daquan didn't even see Casuals post he saw the link from the Marquette SB Nation Twitter account weeks after the fact. The writer of said article does really good work, but whenever I have written articles for Casual I only really focus on the Positives of said recruit. They're still 17-18 year old kids. On a site like that If you want my personal opinions about tthe recruits I'm writing on that's what a PM is for or the Comment section if it's not too negative.. Message boards are a different animal.. Thank you for making my point better than I did. But yeah all of this!!
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 5, 2015 11:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by zxhoya on Nov 5, 2015 12:07:19 GMT -5
I love Daquan's game.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Nov 5, 2015 17:17:44 GMT -5
At about 4:08 of the clip I see he was at the Hilltop playing ball with the team during one of there practice sessions.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 6, 2015 8:06:28 GMT -5
Please give this kid a commitable offer! Put on the full court press on him! No one else wants to play here apparently! Don't bother waiting for Woods to pick South Carolina just lock up Bracey now!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 6, 2015 10:50:42 GMT -5
We have waited this long, we can wait another 5 days.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 6, 2015 11:11:41 GMT -5
Man I want Da Da. I know I'm in a small minority but I think he is exactly what we need to get to the next level. I believe he will make life easier for our sharpshooters..........
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 6, 2015 12:44:45 GMT -5
I hope he signs with us as well.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 6, 2015 13:22:28 GMT -5
Bleh. He'll be another back-up plan recruit that helps keep us in that Top 25-35 national ranking range, but he likely won't elevate the program from there. Maybe that's all we can expect at this point.
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