hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 8, 2015 14:33:56 GMT -5
For those who know more than I.... Is part of the hesitation here being that we have told Mosely he will be a PG in our system and bringing in Bracey just complicates that in a way? That's worries me about Bracey. He can only play the 1 and even Tec Campbell is a one. Mosley wants to play point because he knows that is his best chance at the NBA. Even if you play Tre alongside Mosley and call Tre the shooting guardt, Tre will end up guarding the smaller point and Mosley will have to end up guarding the shooting guard because of his wingspan and athleticism. The worst case scenario is bringing in Bracey and then having Mosley recommit because he wants to go to a program that will play him at the point and prepare him for the NBA. If we want to get the higher ranked guards then we have to show that we can get a combo/point to the NBA and Mosley is our best candidate for that. We scare a way Mosley and then we'll just continue in this cycle of guys like Bracey who are really long shots for the NBA and are not the 5/4 star recruits we covet. If competition from Bracy scares him away, then perhaps he's right not to come to GU.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 8, 2015 14:56:05 GMT -5
I am so beyond not worried about that occuring.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 8, 2015 15:07:23 GMT -5
Yeah Moseley is not decommitting if Bracey comes.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 8, 2015 15:21:40 GMT -5
That's worries me about Bracey. He can only play the 1 and even Tec Campbell is a one. Mosley wants to play point because he knows that is his best chance at the NBA. Even if you play Tre alongside Mosley and call Tre the shooting guardt, Tre will end up guarding the smaller point and Mosley will have to end up guarding the shooting guard because of his wingspan and athleticism. The worst case scenario is bringing in Bracey and then having Mosley recommit because he wants to go to a program that will play him at the point and prepare him for the NBA. If we want to get the higher ranked guards then we have to show that we can get a combo/point to the NBA and Mosley is our best candidate for that. We scare a way Mosley and then we'll just continue in this cycle of guys like Bracey who are really long shots for the NBA and are not the 5/4 star recruits we covet. If competition from Bracy scares him away, then perhaps he's right not to come to GU. It has nothing to do with competition from Bracey. Mosely would be shifted over to shooting guard simply because Bracey and Tre Campbell are strictly point guards and are lesser options at the 2.
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 8, 2015 15:34:03 GMT -5
I am so beyond not worried about that occuring. Memories are pretty short. We just had that scenario last year with Noah Dickerson decommiting when Govan and Derrickson came on board. And that didn't even involve playing someone out of position (for NBA purposes) but was simply a PT issue.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 8, 2015 16:00:21 GMT -5
I am so beyond not worried about that occuring. Memories are pretty short. We just had that scenario last year with Noah Dickerson decommiting when Govan and Derrickson came on board. And that didn't even involve playing someone out of position (for NBA purposes) but was simply a PT issue. My memory is not short at all. I'm not worried about that occurring in this situation. Perhaps I am giving Moseley too much credit, but I think he committed to Georgetown for a variety of reasons and I truly believe we are the perfect school for him. I also don't think, unlike Noah Dickerson, that he is afraid of the competition, whether it be Tre or Daquan. Dickerson obviously knew he couldn't beat out Govan. He's also prone to changing his mind -- he committed to three schools before attending one. I'm not trying to disparage Dickerson here, but it isn't the same situation.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 8, 2015 16:02:24 GMT -5
I am so beyond not worried about that occuring. Memories are pretty short. We just had that scenario last year with Noah Dickerson decommiting when Govan and Derrickson came on board. And that didn't even involve playing someone out of position (for NBA purposes) but was simply a PT issue. Derrickson was committed long before Govan or Dickerson chose G'town.. It could be argued that he didn't feel comfortable with the staff's continued pursuit of Rabb but to me Derrickson & Govan had nothing to do with him de-committing from G'town.. My take on Dickerson was that he wasn't being chased by schools like Duke, got scared when Govan & Egbunu were set to visit G'town so he gave a verbal.. After that he got hot on the aau trail, got some whispers in his ear and away he went.. Mosely is a lock imo, regardless of who the staff may get..
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Post by daymondmyles on Oct 23, 2015 12:31:46 GMT -5
Daquan was re-tweeting Casual Hoya's scouting report of him which talked about him not being a top level recruit and it would be hard for him to find playing time and how we may be slow playing him, etc. And he of course took exception to it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 13:07:34 GMT -5
Daquan was re-tweeting Casual Hoya's scouting report of him which talked about him not being a top level recruit and it would be hard for him to find playing time and how we may be slow playing him, etc. And he of course took exception to it. A he should, the article was not exactly kind to him. Threw a lot of shade his way
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Post by fanofjack on Oct 23, 2015 13:13:25 GMT -5
Daquan was re-tweeting Casual Hoya's scouting report of him which talked about him not being a top level recruit and it would be hard for him to find playing time and how we may be slow playing him, etc. And he of course took exception to it. A he should, the article was not kind to him. Threw a lot of shade his way Everything I've ever seen and read about this kid - except for on Hoya recruiting sites - indicates that he's a gamer. Tight handle, high motor and a defensive nuisance. Not sure why it matters since it appears that the staff moved on from him a while ago, but I think he deserves better than the reception he'd get here.
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Post by daymondmyles on Oct 23, 2015 14:36:05 GMT -5
Agree with Yaboy and fanofjack here.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 23, 2015 15:21:36 GMT -5
Visiting James Madison this weekend..
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Oct 23, 2015 16:22:38 GMT -5
How does the coaching staff feel about him is the primary agenda.
The CH article is just an opinion piece. about Bracey.
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Post by dense on Oct 23, 2015 17:43:42 GMT -5
How does the coaching staff feel about him is the primary agenda. The CH article is just an opinion piece. about Bracey. If fans of a school you like are saying recruiting you is a failure of the staff why would you want to go there. And don't be naive enough to think he hasn't seen it
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 23, 2015 19:23:52 GMT -5
Well I would wager that every kid not in the top 25 has some detractors on every fan forum for every school that recruits him. Know-it-all fans like to bloviate at every opportunity.
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Post by dense on Oct 23, 2015 20:21:40 GMT -5
Well I would wager that every kid not in the top 25 has some detractors on every fan forum for every school that recruits him. Know-it-all fans like to bloviate at every opportunity. true but an article by the site is a different thing.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 23, 2015 20:34:54 GMT -5
I don't like the article at all. It blurs the lines of opinion and fact.....especially the part about Bracey not having the opportunity to start until his junior year. That's just wrong. I would not be surprised to see bracey come in, make a splash...and carve out an important role for himself immediately. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that I'd have higher expectations of bracey as a recruit than I did of Campbell.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 23, 2015 20:48:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately social media is the reality and everyone with an opinion can find a forum in which to express their views. Recruits of Division 1 schools have to adjust as the complaints from fans that used to be limited to game time comments and talk radio now can be blasted out into the internet with little accountability or filtering. Not easy but I venture to say that it is the same everywhere and it kind of goes with the territory. I am certain a kid with aspirations to play at a high level expects this type of Internet debate and if not probably will not handle the rigors of being a recruit at a major program.
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 23, 2015 21:06:45 GMT -5
Well I would wager that every kid not in the top 25 has some detractors on every fan forum for every school that recruits him. Know-it-all fans like to bloviate at every opportunity. true but an article by the site is a different thing. In fairness this is how the writer ends the article in question.. D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera, who is now a senior, was the team's last consensus top-100 lead guard prospect, a span in which the team has brought in five top-100 forwards (Cameron, Copeland, White, Derrickson, Govan) and one top-100 wing (Peak). For a program of Georgetown's status, that is extremely disappointing.
On the other hand, I believe recruiting rankings are overrated and I trust the staff's player evaluation ability. In addition, Bracey has been consistently praised for his intangibles, and I think those are attributes that are overlooked in recruiting circles. There's something to be said for a solid, smart player who knows his strengths and weaknesses and will play for the team and not himself. After losing out on Brown and Jones and with Seventh Woods looking more and more like a pipe dream, Bracey would be a fine late addition to the class.
Still, at some point Georgetown will have to figure out how to attract top guard prospects again.Doesn't this count for something? trove.com/a/Recruiting-Update-Meet-Daquan-Bracey.WldnM?utm_campaign=hosted&utm_medium=twitter&ts=1444431776&utm_source=sns&nocrawl=1
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Post by professorhoya on Oct 23, 2015 22:04:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately social media is the reality and everyone with an opinion can find a forum in which to express their views. Recruits of Division 1 schools have to adjust as the complaints from fans that used to be limited to game time comments and talk radio now can be blasted out into the internet with little accountability or filtering. Not easy but I venture to say that it is the same everywhere and it kind of goes with the territory. I am certain a kid with aspirations to play at a high level expects this type of Internet debate and if not probably will not handle the rigors of being a recruit at a major program. Honestly, you can't get caught up in what's on the internet pertaining to yourself if you are a high level athlete, fighter, actor, etc, etc. It will drive you crazy. Best to stay off the internet when reading about oneself and not caring about what people write about you. There will either be to much praise or brown nosing which will give you an overinflated ego or overestimation of your own skillset or on the other spectrum criticism, negativity, and attacks that can get personal (and have nothing to do with the sport) that can bring you down if you let it. Keep a twitter account if you have to but you shouldn't be reading about yourself on the internet or websites.
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