OldHoyafan
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Post by OldHoyafan on Mar 6, 2014 10:10:34 GMT -5
If Nova beats Xavier tonight they clinch BE title. then the game Saturday becomes meaningless for them. But if they lose and Creighton wins this week then our game becomes huge for them. If they wind up with identical 14-4 records then Creighton is champion due to 2 blowout wins over Nova At this point in the season, no game is meaningless. They could be playing for a #1 seed in the NCAAs. I wouldn't rely on any lack of motivation on their part. If the officiating is like it was against Creighton the other night, we can win. If it is like it was against Marquette last week, we can't. DITTO!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 6, 2014 10:56:32 GMT -5
I really can't see Nova getting a #1 seed. Only 4 top 50 wins and only 1 top 25 win.
I would take Wichita St, Arizona, Florida, Kansas, and Wisconsin over them. The just don't have enough quality wins at this point to deserve a 1 seed.
Arizona- 28-2 RPI 1; SOS 6; Top 50 wins 10; Top 25 wins 4; no bad losses Florida 28-2 RPI 3; SOS 24; Top 50 wins 6; Top 25 wins 2; no bad losses Kansas 23-7 RPI 2; SOS 1; Top 50 wins 12; Top 25 wins 5; no bad losses Wisconsin 25-5 RPI 5; SOS 2; Top 50 wins 8; Top 25 wins 5; 1 bad loss( 131 Northwestern) Wichita St 30-0 RPI 6 SOS 102 Top 50 wins 3 Top 25 wins 1 no bad losses Villanova 25-3 RPI 4 SOS 25 Top 50 wins 4 Top 25 wins 1 no bad losses Michigan 22-7 RPI 10 SOS 5 Top 50 wins 10 top 25 wins 3 1 bad loss(160 Charlotte)
heck I might even take Creighton's resume over theirs Creighton 23-6 RPI 7 SOS 15 Top 50 wins 6 Top 25 wins 2 no bad losses
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 6, 2014 11:02:04 GMT -5
Will Harry be in the house for this one? Please, Harry, be there. We need you.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Mar 6, 2014 13:25:33 GMT -5
just win!!!!!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2014 13:34:48 GMT -5
This. Although he can get a little preachy at times, Jay Bilas has the best response to teams that complain about being left out of the tourney: Win more games.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2014 13:37:26 GMT -5
If Nova beats Xavier tonight they clinch BE title. then the game Saturday becomes meaningless for them. But if they lose and Creighton wins this week then our game becomes huge for them. If they wind up with identical 14-4 records then Creighton is champion due to 2 blowout wins over Nova At this point in the season, no game is meaningless. They could be playing for a #1 seed in the NCAAs. I wouldn't rely on any lack of motivation on their part. If the officiating is like it was against Creighton the other night, we can win. If it is like it was against Marquette last week, we can't. I do not agree that we "can't" - if we play under control, and our bigs can keep from hacking away at every shot inside and focus on rebounding, we can win this game no matter how it is called. Of course it would HELP if they allow more contact inside.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 6, 2014 13:47:40 GMT -5
This. Although he can get a little preachy at times, Jay Bilas has the best response to teams that complain about being left out of the tourney: Win more games. Question for those in the know: If Aaron and Moses play in Saturday's game, does that mean they are coming back next year?
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biggmanu
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Post by biggmanu on Mar 6, 2014 13:50:14 GMT -5
Can we please use Bradley Hayes's 5 fouls instead of 3 of Nate's. Even if Bradley comes in for a 2 minute stretch and he feels like he's getting beat just foul Ochefu hard cause he's a 50% FT shooter. Also need a huge defensive effort out of Jabril and Bowen to keep the pressure on James Bell and Archie who can kill us from 3 at a moments notice. This game will be similar to Creighton in that we need to have high energy close outs on the perimeter but Nova can beat us inside too, so likely Nate (and controlling his foul trouble) will be a key factor.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Mar 6, 2014 13:59:44 GMT -5
This. Although he can get a little preachy at times, Jay Bilas has the best response to teams that complain about being left out of the tourney: Win more games. Question for those in the know: If Aaron and Moses play in Saturday's game, does that mean they are coming back next year? If Aaron launches a deep 3 within the first 10 seconds of the shot clock on his first possession on the court it means he is returning. Likewise, if Moses commits a foul on his first defensive possession, he will be back next year.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Mar 6, 2014 14:03:55 GMT -5
Likewise, if Moses commits a foul on his defensive possession, he will be back next year. It's a road game. It's a road game against Villanova. If Moses doesn't get whistled for a Flagrant 1 while reporting to the scorer's table, I'll consider it a win.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 6, 2014 14:56:06 GMT -5
If Nova beats Xavier tonight they clinch BE title. then the game Saturday becomes meaningless for them. But if they lose and Creighton wins this week then our game becomes huge for them. If they wind up with identical 14-4 records then Creighton is champion due to 2 blowout wins over Nova At this point in the season, no game is meaningless. They could be playing for a #1 seed in the NCAAs. I wouldn't rely on any lack of motivation on their part. If the officiating is like it was against Creighton the other night, we can win. If it is like it was against Marquette last week, we can't. I dont think it will be about motivation, but I do think there is something to be said for Nova having to play less than 48 hours later against us. I think that made a difference with Creighton, too. They seemed pretty sluggish. It's late in the season, and every extra advantage helps. Lets hope they play a 5 OT game tonight. I could care less who wins...
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2014 16:43:01 GMT -5
Sorry, but if Nova wins tonight, between the celebration and short turnaround they will be very beatable Saturday. And no way they get or expect a #1 NCAA seed
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Mar 6, 2014 16:54:20 GMT -5
the refs for Tuesday were: Officials: Doug Shows, Mike Roberts, Don Daily. Can they make it to Philly on Sat?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2014 17:59:33 GMT -5
Sorry, but if Nova wins tonight, between the celebration and short turnaround they will be very beatable Saturday. And no way they get or expect a #1 NCAA seed I agree they will be beatable, but I disagree about the 1 seed. If they win out including the BET, and if a couple of the other top teams lose, they will have a shot. It is not impossible that the committee will want to show a little love for a bball only conference.
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Post by birdman on Mar 6, 2014 19:32:23 GMT -5
For probably the first time since the Oregon game, I find myself counting down the hours to a Hoyas game. In fact, I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I also know it is very foolish of me to get so pumped up for the inevitable disappointment, but something about watching that team play last night made me wonder why I couldn't have watched them all season, and also optimistic that something may have clicked for Hopkins, Bowen, and Cameron; that it could be contagious to Lubick and Ayegba; that Hayes can help; that Jabril's renaissance is real and spectacular; and that Markel and DSR will be vindicated for persevering and playing so spectacularly despite all of the disappointment around them. That team can beat Villanova at Wells Fargo, and I really want to see it happen now despite thinking I was past caring just under a week ago. "Do you know what the Big East says about The Garden?" "No." "They say it has no memory. That's where I want to play the rest of my season. An historic place with no memory."
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 6, 2014 19:43:17 GMT -5
It's going to be very tough if Hopkins commits three fouls in the first six minutes. I thought the foul trouble really got into his head at Marquette. Likewise Moses. There also has to be a fourth guy putting the ball in the basket -- if Bowen or Cameron pick up the mantle, they've got a shot. If not, well, NY's longest running comedy opens at Citi Field in a few weeks.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2014 20:31:38 GMT -5
All about defense. We won 17 games but only 2 when our opponent scored over 70 points. If we can hold Creighton to 63 we can do the same with Nova. Held them to 65 last game. Thanks to Traws great play our offense and defense are much better. We win 70-62.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 6, 2014 20:54:31 GMT -5
It's going to be very tough if Hopkins commits three fouls in the first six minutes. I thought the foul trouble really got into his head at Marquette. Likewise Moses. There also has to be a fourth guy putting the ball in the basket -- if Bowen or Cameron pick up the mantle, they've got a shot. If not, well, NY's longest running comedy opens at Citi Field in a few weeks. Villanova doesn't have much size other then Ochefu. They basically play a point, 3 dribble penetration wings and Ochefu. So we probably match up best with them going smaller anyway. Keeping Trawick, Bowen, DSR, Starks out of foul trouble is going to be more important.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2014 21:02:40 GMT -5
Watching Nova beat Xavier. Granted they lost Steinbrook but Xavier really sucks. Dee Davis is the worst guard in the BE. HOW DID WE EVER BLOW A 17 POINT SECOND HALF LEAD TO THESE GUYS!?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 6, 2014 21:05:19 GMT -5
If the refs let them grab and bump on their press it will be tough to break it and hold onto the ball.
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