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Post by Jack on Mar 5, 2014 8:50:16 GMT -5
Hope is a dangerous thing.
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Post by Boz on Mar 5, 2014 9:18:51 GMT -5
Hope is a good thing, Jack. Maybe the best of things.
And no good thing ever dies.
Except, you know, when it does...
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Post by Jack on Mar 5, 2014 9:49:00 GMT -5
For probably the first time since the Oregon game, I find myself counting down the hours to a Hoyas game. In fact, I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I also know it is very foolish of me to get so pumped up for the inevitable disappointment, but something about watching that team play last night made me wonder why I couldn't have watched them all season, and also optimistic that something may have clicked for Hopkins, Bowen, and Cameron; that it could be contagious to Lubick and Ayegba; that Hayes can help; that Jabril's renaissance is real and spectacular; and that Markel and DSR will be vindicated for persevering and playing so spectacularly despite all of the disappointment around them. That team can beat Villanova at Wells Fargo, and I really want to see it happen now despite thinking I was past caring just under a week ago.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2014 10:32:13 GMT -5
We are NEVER past caring, and hoping. The Villanova bigs will be more of a challenge certainly, and playing on the road has not been a strength for this squad. But you can't help but have the feeling that Markel and DSR, as well as Jabril, just refuse to let this season end with anything short of a trip to the NCAA's. If we continue to value the ball and limit our turnovers, and if we can get contributions across the board like we did last night, this team can absolutely win this one. Of course it will not be easy, it will be another war - but if I have to go to war, I want Markel Starks next to me.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 5, 2014 11:02:14 GMT -5
For probably the first time since the Oregon game, I find myself counting down the hours to a Hoyas game. In fact, I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I also know it is very foolish of me to get so pumped up for the inevitable disappointment, but something about watching that team play last night made me wonder why I couldn't have watched them all season, and also optimistic that something may have clicked for Hopkins, Bowen, and Cameron; that it could be contagious to Lubick and Ayegba; that Hayes can help; that Jabril's renaissance is real and spectacular; and that Markel and DSR will be vindicated for persevering and playing so spectacularly despite all of the disappointment around them. That team can beat Villanova at Wells Fargo, and I really want to see it happen now despite thinking I was past caring just under a week ago. This is more or less why we beat Creighton. I think Jabril is showing real improvement, and I hope the shooting stays. I think the bigs are going to go back to struggling, on the road, where we will likely see a foul fest. Creighton might be the weakest BE team down low. Villanova is not. We can win, for sure, but it's going to be a dogfight.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Mar 5, 2014 11:28:10 GMT -5
For probably the first time since the Oregon game, I find myself counting down the hours to a Hoyas game. In fact, I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I also know it is very foolish of me to get so pumped up for the inevitable disappointment, but something about watching that team play last night made me wonder why I couldn't have watched them all season, and also optimistic that something may have clicked for Hopkins, Bowen, and Cameron; that it could be contagious to Lubick and Ayegba; that Hayes can help; that Jabril's renaissance is real and spectacular; and that Markel and DSR will be vindicated for persevering and playing so spectacularly despite all of the disappointment around them. That team can beat Villanova at Wells Fargo, and I really want to see it happen now despite thinking I was past caring just under a week ago. This is more or less why we beat Creighton. I think Jabril is showing real improvement, and I hope the shooting stays. I think the bigs are going to go back to struggling, on the road, where we will likely see a foul fest. Creighton might be the weakest BE team down low. Villanova is not. We can win, for sure, but it's going to be a dogfight. CORRECTION: Dog and 'cat fight. Bring on those Edited! Grrrrrr!!
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Post by calhoya on Mar 5, 2014 12:24:50 GMT -5
Cannot overlook the fact that last night's game was called more like old Big East games and not as tight as many of the other games this year. Could be a function of being at home. Team better be prepared for Nova to take away the guards in our offense, which means that Hopkins, Lubick, Cameron and Bowen need to be even more of a factor on offense. Certainly it is doable though it will not be easy. The small lineup will struggle on the boards. Nova has size and strong guard play.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 5, 2014 13:47:23 GMT -5
We are NEVER past caring, and hoping. The Villanova bigs will be more of a challenge certainly, and playing on the road has not been a strength for this squad. But you can't help but have the feeling that Markel and DSR, as well as Jabril, just refuse to let this season end with anything short of a trip to the NCAA's. If we continue to value the ball and limit our turnovers, and if we can get contributions across the board like we did last night, this team can absolutely win this one. Of course it will not be easy, it will be another war - but if I have to go to war, I want Markel Starks next to me. Turnovers killed us in the 1st Nova game (especially the first 10 minutes), so agree that will be key for game 2. I hope/expect we will be better prepared for that zone press Nova employs so well, which if I recall was very effective in the first game. I think it is the good spacing on their press, but it always seems like we are playing 6 against 5 getting the ball upcourt.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2014 13:50:02 GMT -5
We are NEVER past caring, and hoping. The Villanova bigs will be more of a challenge certainly, and playing on the road has not been a strength for this squad. But you can't help but have the feeling that Markel and DSR, as well as Jabril, just refuse to let this season end with anything short of a trip to the NCAA's. If we continue to value the ball and limit our turnovers, and if we can get contributions across the board like we did last night, this team can absolutely win this one. Of course it will not be easy, it will be another war - but if I have to go to war, I want Markel Starks next to me. Turnovers killed us in the 1st Nova game (especially the first 10 minutes), so agree that will be key for game 2. I hope/expect we will be better prepared for that zone press Nova employs so well, which if I recall was very effective in the first game. I think it is the good spacing on their press, but it always seems like we are playing 6 against 5 getting the ball upcourt. Having Jabril at full strength will certainly help, he is at least a capable ballhandler, strong physically with the ball, and does not generally get rattled.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 5, 2014 14:35:25 GMT -5
Actually, in terms of turnovers we had 18, far too many, but they had 16. They "only" scored 13 pts off those 18 TO's, while we scored 12 off their 16. IMO, what really killed us was the free throw disparity. They were 22-28, vs our 8-9. While we still foul a lot, we have been getting to the line at a higher rate ourselves since that game.
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Post by hoyabinx on Mar 5, 2014 15:11:17 GMT -5
For probably the first time since the Oregon game, I find myself counting down the hours to a Hoyas game. In fact, I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I also know it is very foolish of me to get so pumped up for the inevitable disappointment, but something about watching that team play last night made me wonder why I couldn't have watched them all season, and also optimistic that something may have clicked for Hopkins, Bowen, and Cameron; that it could be contagious to Lubick and Ayegba; that Hayes can help; that Jabril's renaissance is real and spectacular; and that Markel and DSR will be vindicated for persevering and playing so spectacularly despite all of the disappointment around them. That team can beat Villanova at Wells Fargo, and I really want to see it happen now despite thinking I was past caring just under a week ago. This brilliant post apparently has gone over a few peoples' heads. Well done.
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Post by hoyabinx on Mar 5, 2014 15:28:27 GMT -5
When Ochefu and Pinkston are in, we need two of Hop/Nate/Moses in there too. But when either one comes out, immediately go "small" with Starks, DSR, Jabril, and Bowen with one of Hop/Nate/Moses. That was incredibly effective last night and will help us keep track of Bell and Hilliard. If we switch screens on the perimeter with that lineup, we should be able to shut them down like we did Creighton's shooters last night.
This is a different team with Jabril back. He is going to play 20-25 more minutes this game than he did last time against Nova (first game back). And he is playing in front of his hometown crowd. Could be a special game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2014 15:40:00 GMT -5
When Ochefu and Pinkston are in, we need two of Hop/Nate/Moses in there too. But when either one comes out, immediately go "small" with Starks, DSR, Jabril, and Bowen with one of Hop/Nate/Moses. That was incredibly effective last night and will help us keep track of Bell and Hilliard. If we switch screens on the perimeter with that lineup, we should be able to shut them down like we did Creighton's shooters last night. This is a different team with Jabril back. He is going to play 20-25 more minutes this game than he did last time against Nova (first game back). And he is playing in front of his hometown crowd. Could be a special game. Agreed. Hopefully Jabril can properly channel the emotion and energy of playing such a big game in his hometown. He has certainly displayed the right level of intensity and emotion since he came back, with far fewer of the over-aggressive fouls we have seen earlier. If he can do the same Saturday it could be the critical factor.
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Post by MassHoya on Mar 5, 2014 22:28:49 GMT -5
Never ever ever forget 1985. Beat the 'Cats.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 5, 2014 23:09:48 GMT -5
Never ever ever forget 1985. Beat the 'Cats. This.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 6, 2014 0:42:46 GMT -5
Will Harry be in the house for this one?
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 6, 2014 8:48:24 GMT -5
One down one to go MUST WIN.. and remember our losing streak PHILLY TOUGH had the broken jaw DIFFERENT TEAM thats TEAM on a mission. yup we will see go hoyas the best is yet to come MUST BEAT NOVA> their senior nite.. STEAL IT HOYAS hit SOME threes Rebound but most important play that HOYA LOCK DOWN D maybe the best d in the country when they are ON so BE ON> MUST WIN ONE.. anyone know what our rpi will become if we do that just wondering go hoyas WIN THIS ONE BY AT LEAST ONE AND HAVE SOME FUN cause its FEBRUARY NOW>
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Post by drquigley on Mar 6, 2014 8:52:52 GMT -5
If Nova beats Xavier tonight they clinch BE title. then the game Saturday becomes meaningless for them. But if they lose and Creighton wins this week then our game becomes huge for them. If they wind up with identical 14-4 records then Creighton is champion due to 2 blowout wins over Nova
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Post by nychoya3 on Mar 6, 2014 9:20:00 GMT -5
Nothing meaningless for them since they're in the conversation for a 1 seed. If they lose to us, that's probably off the table.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 9:20:20 GMT -5
If Nova beats Xavier tonight they clinch BE title. then the game Saturday becomes meaningless for them. But if they lose and Creighton wins this week then our game becomes huge for them. If they wind up with identical 14-4 records then Creighton is champion due to 2 blowout wins over Nova At this point in the season, no game is meaningless. They could be playing for a #1 seed in the NCAAs. I wouldn't rely on any lack of motivation on their part. If the officiating is like it was against Creighton the other night, we can win. If it is like it was against Marquette last week, we can't.
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