SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Sept 19, 2015 19:31:04 GMT -5
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Sept 19, 2015 19:55:06 GMT -5
We all know UNC MBB program was heavily involved and had knowledge of what was going on in the program. Nothing happens on a college campus for over a week before everybody knows about it so there is no way something can go on for almost 2 decades and it not be common knowledge to everybody on campus. The problem is that "its not what you know but what you can prove". There academic program has done a great job in the cover up and deflected all the attention away from the "money making programs".
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Post by tashoya on Sept 19, 2015 21:33:16 GMT -5
I think it would too blatant, even for the NCAA, to completely absolve them. But I think many have the feeling that it'll be the weakest slap on the wrist possible that won't, in any real way, affect their ability to recruit or compete. The coach himself, apparently, has said as much to recruits and the University extended his contract a few months back. They had a couple of dudes that got spooked a while back but the tide seems to be turning. That can't be for no reason or because a highly rated kid is just going to take a flyer on them when he has equally prestigious/attractive offers for his services. Someone has to be making assurances with more than just a "we'll be ok, I promise." Let's just hope Seventh isn't the next domino to fall their way. www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/9/3/9253569/tony-bradley-recruiting-north-carolina-basketball-unc-five-star
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Post by calhoya on Sept 20, 2015 7:24:09 GMT -5
Don't hold your breath. The NCAA is an archaic organization bloated with a sense of invulnerability over the years that belies its status as a hollow entity that neither effectively regulates its membership or metes out justice in a fair and consistent manner. That status is further jeopardized as players turn to the court system, the overseas professional leagues become more attractive for players leaving school early, coaches like Calipari make a mockery of the concept of the college system, and the greed of the large power conferences pushes their members to continue to establish a quasi-Super League. NCAA football and basketball are big business and have become a backbone for the financial stability of many schools, particularly state-funded institutions. I am skeptical that the NCAA would risk further decline by rendering a just punishment for the abuses by schools like UNC and Syracuse, no matter how outrageous the abuse. End of rant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 10:52:43 GMT -5
Ten of the 15 players on the 2005 championship team majored in African and Afro-American Studies — the department at the center of the scandal. Mary Willingham, former athletic learning specialist, tweeted in April that five starting players plus a reserve took a combined 69 fake courses in the department. yet....... Williams and his staff do have some ammo this summer as none of the five violations the NCAA alleges North Carolina committed directly relate to men's basketball. While it's tough to predict NCAA punishments, it looks likely that North Carolina's hoops program will escape major sanction www.dailytarheel.com/article/2015/01/experts-weigh-in-on-potential-sanctions-for-unc-from-ncaa-investigation
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Post by tashoya on Sept 20, 2015 17:59:11 GMT -5
Don't hold your breath. The NCAA is an archaic organization bloated with a sense of invulnerability over the years that belies its status as a hollow entity that neither effectively regulates its membership or metes out justice in a fair and consistent manner. That status is further jeopardized as players turn to the court system, the overseas professional leagues become more attractive for players leaving school early, coaches like Calipari make a mockery of the concept of the college system, and the greed of the large power conferences pushes their members to continue to establish a quasi-Super League. NCAA football and basketball are big business and have become a backbone for the financial stability of many schools, particularly state-funded institutions. I am skeptical that the NCAA would risk further decline by rendering a just punishment for the abuses by schools like UNC and Syracuse, no matter how outrageous the abuse. End of rant. Great post. I think you nailed every aspect. I'm still, naively, hoping UNC gets nailed but I also have zero belief in that hope. It's like that feeling you get when you first buy a megamillions ticket. You know there's no shot but you get that little glimmer. Then, inevitably, they announce the first number.
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Post by professorhoya on Sept 20, 2015 23:25:29 GMT -5
I think it would too blatant, even for the NCAA, to completely absolve them. But I think many have the feeling that it'll be the weakest slap on the wrist possible that won't, in any real way, affect their ability to recruit or compete. The coach himself, apparently, has said as much to recruits and the University extended his contract a few months back. They had a couple of dudes that got spooked a while back but the tide seems to be turning. That can't be for no reason or because a highly rated kid is just going to take a flyer on them when he has equally prestigious/attractive offers for his services. Someone has to be making assurances with more than just a "we'll be ok, I promise." Let's just hope Seventh isn't the next domino to fall their way. www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/9/3/9253569/tony-bradley-recruiting-north-carolina-basketball-unc-five-starThe coach's word really means nothing. It's not like a recruit can hold him to his promise if the NCAA brings down Syracuse like sanctions. Even if there's a 30 percent chance of Syracuse like sanctions why would you go there when you have other options where you know there will not be sanctions.
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Post by carlosgibson on Sept 21, 2015 3:49:00 GMT -5
^ UNC is still a blueblood program that probably makes the NCAA tournament any year they aren't be on probation
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 24, 2015 8:04:23 GMT -5
We are doing an in home visit with him today right before his UNC trip. Interesting.
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Post by lucky on Sept 24, 2015 8:05:10 GMT -5
Seventh Woods to receive in-home visit from Georgetown Thursday
Georgetown head basketball coach John Thompson III will make his in-home visit with Hammond’s Seventh Woods on Thursday. a day before Woods travels to UNC for his official visit on the Tar Heels campus in Chapel Hill.
Woods took his official visit to Georgetown on the weekend of Sept. 11-13. Upon returning, he told us that the visit went “great” and that he was genuinely considering the Hoyas, along with UNC and hometown South Carolina. The 6-1 guard is scheduled to visit the Gamecocks on the weekend of Oct. 9-11.
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Post by dense on Sept 24, 2015 8:51:15 GMT -5
We are doing an in home visit with him today right before his UNC trip. Interesting. ok now I think we have a chance
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Post by bigelephant on Sept 24, 2015 9:22:55 GMT -5
Yes, but I think LAST UP has the best chance because maybe he set it up that way. I am sincerely hoping for the best but...
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Post by hoyazeke on Sept 24, 2015 9:26:21 GMT -5
I must say if we can land 7th that would change my stance on Da Da. 7th can do everything Da Da can do but probably better. Man this would be a game changer because this kid is a guard and he is definitely a future pro. If he were to choose Gtown I believe the recruiting of guards becomes easier from here on out. Not to mention the little brother of a current hoya that might be a future hoya and is definitely a future pro.....
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Sept 24, 2015 9:29:11 GMT -5
We are doing an in home visit with him today right before his UNC trip. Interesting. ok now I think we have a chance Dense - could it just be a last-ditch effort based on a belief/concern that he will commit to UNC this weekend? I have no ability to read what something like this means.
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Post by lucky on Sept 24, 2015 9:43:23 GMT -5
I guess it would depend on who initiated the in home visit. There are multiple possibilities here: 1. JT3 initiated because he's worried about UNC. 2. 7th initiated because he's ready to commit. 3. 7th initiated because he wants to tell JT3 in person thanks but no thanks.
In all cases, someone asked, and the other party accepted. If JT3 asked, 7th is either receptive or just being courteous.
As most of you, I am very hopeful but by no means overconfident.
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Post by Cambridge on Sept 24, 2015 9:50:14 GMT -5
So you're saying there's a chance.
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Post by daymondmyles on Sept 24, 2015 10:04:37 GMT -5
B&G, is this another case of an achievable but uphill battle?
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Post by s4hoyas on Sept 24, 2015 10:05:26 GMT -5
I suspect a kidnapping...
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Post by Just Cos on Sept 24, 2015 10:09:11 GMT -5
Maybe we can pull off an in home visit similar to Greg Monroe's.
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Post by Cambridge on Sept 24, 2015 10:12:09 GMT -5
Looks like we need to fire up the emojis Deandre Jordan style if we are going to land Seventh.
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