IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Aug 28, 2015 10:26:45 GMT -5
You mean his dream school UNC? PJ Dozier says hi .. UNC wasn't recruiting him to run the point. Had they offered him the 1 spot my guess is he would have jumped at it.
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Post by yunghoya on Aug 28, 2015 11:31:52 GMT -5
Think we lose out to UNC on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 11:33:50 GMT -5
PJ Dozier says hi .. UNC wasn't recruiting him to run the point. Had they offered him the 1 spot my guess is he would have jumped at it. Maybe but by all reports they finished last. Serious question, if it was that big a factor would you care what position they played you at? I'ts your dream school... IMO The whole Dream School thing doesn't mean all that much at this stage it will come down to relationships and fit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 11:39:13 GMT -5
PJ Dozier says hi .. With all due respect, you can't use Dozier recruitment as an example. Dozier is a legacy kid. Both parents are alums of the school and played ball at South Carolina, sister was a 5 star commit and freshman on the South Carolina Women's team at the time of his decision. South Carolina is the family school. Everybody knew it was going to be all most impossible to get him out of South Carolina. Woods, to my knowledge doesn't have any of those extra ties to the University of South Carolina. Also the roster make-up puts South Carolina at the biggest disadvantage between the 3 schools of Georgetown, UNC, and So. Car. I don't think Florida is a real player here but you never know. Tevin Mack was also a lock for South Carolina last summer and he picked VCU, then followed Shaka to Texas. Markelle Fultz is going across the country to Washington when Fultz himself said Kentucky (who offered him) was his dream school. You just never know in this recruiting process. Yes I can because even if you take SC out of the equation he was not going to UNC. It would have been either GTown or Ville if not SC. They (UNC) finished last out of the teams on his final list
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 28, 2015 11:40:30 GMT -5
it will come down to relationships and fit. Agree with you Yaboy, and I'm going one step further to guess that the more important factor of those two will be "relationships" - Coach, staff and teammates.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 11:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 28, 2015 12:48:44 GMT -5
The NCAA is so angry at UNC for blatant disrespect of their rules and complete lack of institutional control and are going to hit UNC so hard that NC Central may get the Death Penalty! RIP Jerry Tarkanain!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 12:52:55 GMT -5
The NCAA is so angry at UNC for blatant disrespect of their rules and complete lack of institutional control and are going to hit UNC so hard that NC Central may get the Death Penalty! RIP Jerry Tarkanain! It's going to be interesting, of course Roy is telling all his recruits that the Football team will receive most of it and the B-ball team wasn't really involved... Do your research recruits
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 28, 2015 16:16:05 GMT -5
The NCAA is so angry at UNC for blatant disrespect of their rules and complete lack of institutional control and are going to hit UNC so hard that NC Central may get the Death Penalty! RIP Jerry Tarkanain! It's going to be interesting, of course Roy is telling all his recruits that the Football team will receive most of it and the B-ball team wasn't really involved... Do your research recruits Oh I've done a lot of reading up on this. I'm extremely intrigued with how the NCAA will handle a Blue Blood getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Everything I've read indicates that the athletic department has made the WBB basketball staff the patsy and laid all the blame there. Several former UNC assistant coaches and players have come to the defense of WBB Head Coach Sylvia Hatchell and her program. I think blaming WBB program is a joke because MBB and FB received more benefits of the fake classes then the WBB team did. I truly believe the NCAA's credibility is at stake in what the final punishment will be. 2/3 of their 2005 Championship team were majoring in what turned out to be nothing at all. I don't think the NCAA will come to a conclusion and announce a punishment until after this season is over and that's why I think it will be hard for UNC to get players outside of legacy kids.
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 28, 2015 19:09:33 GMT -5
It's going to be interesting, of course Roy is telling all his recruits that the Football team will receive most of it and the B-ball team wasn't really involved... Do your research recruits Oh I've done a lot of reading up on this. I'm extremely intrigued with how the NCAA will handle a Blue Blood getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Everything I've read indicates that the athletic department has made the WBB basketball staff the patsy and laid all the blame there. Several former UNC assistant coaches and players have come to the defense of WBB Head Coach Sylvia Hatchell and her program. I think blaming WBB program is a joke because MBB and FB received more benefits of the fake classes then the WBB team did. I truly believe the NCAA's credibility is at stake in what the final punishment will be. 2/3 of their 2005 Championship team were majoring in what turned out to be nothing at all. I don't think the NCAA will come to a conclusion and announce a punishment until after this season is over and that's why I think it will be hard for UNC to get players outside of legacy kids. Women's basketball?? Women's basketball is the culprit? This is nothing more than variation on a theme. Somewhere, Tark must be LHAO.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 28, 2015 19:38:45 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have even the slightest faith that any of the higher profile programs at UNC will be given anything more than a slap on the wrist. I have every expectation that the penalties to the MBB program, if there are any, are going to be laughable.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 28, 2015 20:03:13 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have even the slightest faith that any of the higher profile programs at UNC will be given anything more than a slap on the wrist. I have every expectation that the penalties to the MBB program, if there are any, are going to be laughable. I think they will get something at least similar to Cuse or EScusePN will be all over them.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 28, 2015 20:50:13 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you have even the slightest faith that any of the higher profile programs at UNC will be given anything more than a slap on the wrist. I have every expectation that the penalties to the MBB program, if there are any, are going to be laughable. I think they will get something at least similar to Cuse or EScusePN will be all over them. I almost never watch ESPN unless there's a game on that I want to see. Would you happen to know what their reaction was to the Cuse penalties? I'd imagine they portrayed the sanctions as overly harsh.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 28, 2015 23:20:37 GMT -5
I think they will get something at least similar to Cuse or EScusePN will be all over them. I almost never watch ESPN unless there's a game on that I want to see. Would you happen to know what their reaction was to the Cuse penalties? I'd imagine they portrayed the sanctions as overly harsh. Don't really remember but I seem to recall that they relayed the information in hushed tones without glee and tried to move on rather than getting excited and proclaiming the injustice like they usually do.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 30, 2015 12:54:58 GMT -5
The NCAA is often in the business of protecting its own image. If they fail to impose some type of significant punishment for UNC - football AND basketball - they will absolutely destroy the limited credibility they have less. Even as arrogant as they can be, it is hard to believe they would be that tone-deaf.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 30, 2015 12:59:58 GMT -5
Back to Seventh Woods... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here is tragic story involving Wood's and his family. The more I read about this kid, the more I hope he joins the Hoya family! I think it's between us and UNC! The kid seems to smart to go to play for Frank Martin at South Carolina. I think he is hoping to find out UNC's fate regarding the NCAA before he makes a decision. UNC isn't going to give up their postseason this upcoming season like the sorrycuse did last season so UNC could be looking at possibly missing the NCAA tournament if they decide in February to sacrifice their 2016-17 season. I think if NCAA announces before early signing period concludes that it's only giving the men's program a slap on the wrist (like we all expect) then I think he goes to UNC unless he is blown away on his Georgetown visit. Considering the time that has passed, I think it's safe to assume that UNC won't get much in the way of any punishment and, if they do, it won't affect the basketball teams. Though it's difficult to ignore the irony of a kid that values academics having UNC on his list considering their large-scale BS classes thing. That said, UNC has to be a huge draw for a guy growing up in either of the Carolinas that loves basketball. I'm hoping he makes the unconventional choice and becomes a Hoya. Our offense is only slow when we have slow guys. Let's run it fast with a guy like Seventh. Not to mention, baby blue is for babies. Hoya blue is for men. (Yes, grasping at every straw) Not so sure that the passage of time is any factor tas - just ask Syracuse!
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Post by calhoya on Aug 30, 2015 17:23:50 GMT -5
Considering the time that has passed, I think it's safe to assume that UNC won't get much in the way of any punishment and, if they do, it won't affect the basketball teams. Though it's difficult to ignore the irony of a kid that values academics having UNC on his list considering their large-scale BS classes thing. That said, UNC has to be a huge draw for a guy growing up in either of the Carolinas that loves basketball. I'm hoping he makes the unconventional choice and becomes a Hoya. Our offense is only slow when we have slow guys. Let's run it fast with a guy like Seventh. Not to mention, baby blue is for babies. Hoya blue is for men. (Yes, grasping at every straw) Not so sure that the passage of time is any factor tas - just ask Syracuse! In fairness, though lagging behind some of its ACC brethren like Georgia Tech, Duke and Wake Forest,UNC has a very strong academic reputation in several fields. The fact that the idiots running the athletic department would jeopardize that reputation is a shame. As for punishment, the NCAA is a business and it won't promote its product in men's basketball by having a storied program like UNC sitting at home in March for any length of time. Expect whatever "punishment" comes down to be much softer than deserved. I would hope that a family considers the ethics of a university that allowed this fraud to be perpetuated for decades but realistically, for most 4-5 star recruits it is a "business" decision for the family too. They are less likely to be worried about the ethics of the school than whether it will provide their son the best opportunity to play at the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 17:30:02 GMT -5
Well we know none of the punishment will effect them this year since there’s 0 chance of the NCAA sanctioning it’s preseason #1 or #2 team
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Post by njhoya78 on Aug 30, 2015 17:35:37 GMT -5
The NCAA will not issue any sanctions against North Carolina before March Madness. No hearings are scheduled yet, in part because of recent self-reporting by UNC of apparent violations by the women's basketball team. Based upon how long it took for final sanctions to be issued against our friends in orange to the north, I'd be shocked if we saw any announced sanctions until shortly after graduation ceremonies in Chapel Hill. After that, though, don't be surprised if the NCAA comes down hard on UNC, because of the public perception that is involved.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 30, 2015 18:28:03 GMT -5
The NCAA will not issue any sanctions against North Carolina before March Madness. No hearings are scheduled yet, in part because of recent self-reporting by UNC of apparent violations by the women's basketball team. Based upon how long it took for final sanctions to be issued against our friends in orange to the north, I'd be shocked if we saw any announced sanctions until shortly after graduation ceremonies in Chapel Hill. After that, though, don't be surprised if the NCAA comes down hard on UNC, because of the public perception that is involved. The problem is that the teams weren't breaking specific NCAA competitive rules, but the school as a whole was not on the up-and-up over the African American Studies program. The more appropriate sanctions should come from its accreditation body, not the NCAA. Put another way, if this was the NCAA telling Georgetown that its sociology program was no good, do we blame John Thompson III for it? No.
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