alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Aug 27, 2015 15:20:50 GMT -5
Tre was a near disaster defensively. He picked up guys full court - which was nice to put some pressure in the back court for a change - but he got burned by nearly everyone, or got buried by ball screens once was things were in the half court. Love the kid and his shooting (+ range), ball security, speed with the ball and moxie are all going to culminate into a heck of a college guard. But his defense has a heck of a long way to go. That said, he's this team's starting PG in 2016-2017 and 2017-2018 unless something strange happens.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Aug 27, 2015 15:56:25 GMT -5
Tre was a near disaster defensively. He picked up guys full court - which was nice to put some pressure in the back court for a change - but he got burned by nearly everyone, or got buried by ball screens once was things were in the half court. Love the kid and his shooting (+ range), ball security, speed with the ball and moxie are all going to culminate into a heck of a college guard. But his defense has a heck of a long way to go. That said, he's this team's starting PG in 2016-2017 and 2017-2018 unless something strange happens. Not concerned with his defense. In my opinion, without looking at numbers and giving kudos to JT3 and his staff, our players generally get better defensively, with the rare exceptions like Freeman and Summers (but that was more lack of effort on their part). It will depend entirely on his attitude and hard work. If he puts it in, he will improve.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Aug 27, 2015 15:57:38 GMT -5
Very few freshmen can play solid defense. Watch the change in LJ Peak this year from last. Last year Peak came along nicely toward the end of the season. This summer he appears to have taken another step.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 16:17:43 GMT -5
Tre was a near disaster defensively. He picked up guys full court - which was nice to put some pressure in the back court for a change - but he got burned by nearly everyone, or got buried by ball screens once was things were in the half court. Love the kid and his shooting (+ range), ball security, speed with the ball and moxie are all going to culminate into a heck of a college guard. But his defense has a heck of a long way to go. That said, he's this team's starting PG in 2016-2017 and 2017-2018 unless something strange happens. Disaster? I'd have to disagree. Does he get too jumpy and needs to sit down in his stance and guard people? yes. But I think disaster is a bit harsh, he competed which is mainly what I expect out of a Freshman..Granted I expect most freshman to be a smidge past terrible on defense so it's all relative I guess
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Aug 27, 2015 18:04:33 GMT -5
I think Tre will be just fine on both ends of the court!
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 27, 2015 18:12:27 GMT -5
Back to Seventh Woods... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here is tragic story involving Wood's and his family.
The more I read about this kid, the more I hope he joins the Hoya family! I think it's between us and UNC! The kid seems to smart to go to play for Frank Martin at South Carolina. I think he is hoping to find out UNC's fate regarding the NCAA before he makes a decision. UNC isn't going to give up their postseason this upcoming season like the sorrycuse did last season so UNC could be looking at possibly missing the NCAA tournament if they decide in February to sacrifice their 2016-17 season. I think if NCAA announces before early signing period concludes that it's only giving the men's program a slap on the wrist (like we all expect) then I think he goes to UNC unless he is blown away on his Georgetown visit.
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 27, 2015 18:13:24 GMT -5
I don't think Tre starts this year.....but you are probably right, Tre likely gets the nod next year. He has to get more consistent though...at times he looked wild and out of control in Italy, other times he played relatively well.
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 27, 2015 19:07:13 GMT -5
Very few freshmen can play solid defense. Watch the change in LJ Peak this year from last. Last year Peak came along nicely toward the end of the season. This summer he appears to have taken another step. Recall how people were calling Jabril overrated as a defensive player early on ("fake tough" and all that crap)? Remember how Mikael was really fraudulent because people apparently mistook his shot blocking for actual defense? Now some of those same folks who chastised those two guys are now likely part of the the fanbase worried that the Hoyas' defense is in trouble without them. In other words Hoya fans knock the defensive abilities of virtually every player until those players become upperclassmen.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Aug 27, 2015 19:37:18 GMT -5
Back to Seventh Woods... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here is tragic story involving Wood's and his family. The more I read about this kid, the more I hope he joins the Hoya family! I think it's between us and UNC! The kid seems to smart to go to play for Frank Martin at South Carolina. I think he is hoping to find out UNC's fate regarding the NCAA before he makes a decision. UNC isn't going to give up their postseason this upcoming season like the sorrycuse did last season so UNC could be looking at possibly missing the NCAA tournament if they decide in February to sacrifice their 2016-17 season. I think if NCAA announces before early signing period concludes that it's only giving the men's program a slap on the wrist (like we all expect) then I think he goes to UNC unless he is blown away on his Georgetown visit. If it is between us and UNC, I like our chances.
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Post by calhoya on Aug 27, 2015 20:05:22 GMT -5
I don't think Tre starts this year.....but you are probably right, Tre likely gets the nod next year. He has to get more consistent though...at times he looked wild and out of control in Italy, other times he played relatively well. Agree. From what I have read and seen in the clips, Tre plays with the mindset of an SG not a PG. He will need to be managed carefully this year if the goal is to develop him as a replacement for DSR.
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Post by dungeon ball on Aug 27, 2015 20:16:58 GMT -5
I don't think Tre starts this year.....but you are probably right, Tre likely gets the nod next year. He has to get more consistent though...at times he looked wild and out of control in Italy, other times he played relatively well. Agree. From what I have read and seen in the clips, Tre plays with the mindset of an SG not a PG. He will need to be managed carefully this year if the goal is to develop him as a replacement for DSR. Because DSR is a natural PG? Tre is more of a PG than DSR
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Post by bigelephant on Aug 27, 2015 20:17:49 GMT -5
From the clips Dy-no-mite doesn't begin to describe him. BTW what's the origin of Seventh?
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Post by tashoya on Aug 27, 2015 22:09:21 GMT -5
Back to Seventh Woods... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here is tragic story involving Wood's and his family. The more I read about this kid, the more I hope he joins the Hoya family! I think it's between us and UNC! The kid seems to smart to go to play for Frank Martin at South Carolina. I think he is hoping to find out UNC's fate regarding the NCAA before he makes a decision. UNC isn't going to give up their postseason this upcoming season like the sorrycuse did last season so UNC could be looking at possibly missing the NCAA tournament if they decide in February to sacrifice their 2016-17 season. I think if NCAA announces before early signing period concludes that it's only giving the men's program a slap on the wrist (like we all expect) then I think he goes to UNC unless he is blown away on his Georgetown visit. Considering the time that has passed, I think it's safe to assume that UNC won't get much in the way of any punishment and, if they do, it won't affect the basketball teams. Though it's difficult to ignore the irony of a kid that values academics having UNC on his list considering their large-scale BS classes thing. That said, UNC has to be a huge draw for a guy growing up in either of the Carolinas that loves basketball. I'm hoping he makes the unconventional choice and becomes a Hoya. Our offense is only slow when we have slow guys. Let's run it fast with a guy like Seventh. Not to mention, baby blue is for babies. Hoya blue is for men. (Yes, grasping at every straw)
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Aug 27, 2015 22:40:47 GMT -5
while i want to be optimistic and hope that he comes here, for some reason, i feel like he is more likely to go to UNC or USC. hope I am wrong, but i don't really have a high expectation on this one. we shall see soon.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Aug 28, 2015 6:48:42 GMT -5
Agree. From what I have read and seen in the clips, Tre plays with the mindset of an SG not a PG. He will need to be managed carefully this year if the goal is to develop him as a replacement for DSR. Because DSR is a natural PG? Tre is more of a PG than DSR Maybe I am missing your point.The fact that Tre is more of a PG than DSR does not make Tre a PG. It simply emphasizes that last year and perhaps this year the team does not have a player who is a natural PG. Tre is quick and a streaky shooter. His ball-handling was as good as anyone we put on the floor last year. The issue for the coaches to resolve is whether he can distribute the ball and create shots for others. I think he has that potential, as does LJ. Now the coaches need to develop that potential or find an alternative.
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Post by IDenj on Aug 28, 2015 8:19:51 GMT -5
Back to Seventh Woods... I'm not sure if this was posted earlier but here is tragic story involving Wood's and his family. The more I read about this kid, the more I hope he joins the Hoya family! I think it's between us and UNC! The kid seems to smart to go to play for Frank Martin at South Carolina. I think he is hoping to find out UNC's fate regarding the NCAA before he makes a decision. UNC isn't going to give up their postseason this upcoming season like the sorrycuse did last season so UNC could be looking at possibly missing the NCAA tournament if they decide in February to sacrifice their 2016-17 season. I think if NCAA announces before early signing period concludes that it's only giving the men's program a slap on the wrist (like we all expect) then I think he goes to UNC unless he is blown away on his Georgetown visit. If it is between us and UNC, I like our chances. You mean his dream school UNC?
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Aug 28, 2015 8:30:46 GMT -5
Because DSR is a natural PG? Tre is more of a PG than DSR Maybe I am missing your point.The fact that Tre is more of a PG than DSR does not make Tre a PG. It simply emphasizes that last year and perhaps this year the team does not have a player who is a natural PG. Tre is quick and a streaky shooter. His ball-handling was as good as anyone we put on the floor last year. The issue for the coaches to resolve is whether he can distribute the ball and create shots for others. I think he has that potential, as does LJ. Now the coaches need to develop that potential or find an alternative. Since when has the Georgetown offense been predicated on our PG distributing the ball and creating shots for others? The Hoya teams under III have been littered with teams that didn't have true PGs. As long as we have guards that can handle it adequately and provide good perimeter D I see no problem with continuing this trend of bringing in talented combos. Having facilitators at other positions a la Paul White alleviates the need for a true PG even further.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 10:02:03 GMT -5
If it is between us and UNC, I like our chances. You mean his dream school UNC? PJ Dozier says hi ..
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Aug 28, 2015 10:11:13 GMT -5
(cough, cough, vomit in the mouth) OMG - bad memories.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 28, 2015 10:24:55 GMT -5
You mean his dream school UNC? PJ Dozier says hi .. With all due respect, you can't use Dozier recruitment as an example. Dozier is a legacy kid. Both parents are alums of the school and played ball at South Carolina, sister was a 5 star commit and freshman on the South Carolina Women's team at the time of his decision. South Carolina is the family school. Everybody knew it was going to be all most impossible to get him out of South Carolina. Woods, to my knowledge doesn't have any of those extra ties to the University of South Carolina. Also the roster make-up puts South Carolina at the biggest disadvantage between the 3 schools of Georgetown, UNC, and So. Car. I don't think Florida is a real player here but you never know. Tevin Mack was also a lock for South Carolina last summer and he picked VCU, then followed Shaka to Texas. Markelle Fultz is going across the country to Washington when Fultz himself said Kentucky (who offered him) was his dream school. You just never know in this recruiting process.
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