NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 18, 2013 9:42:33 GMT -5
I am usually the one talking about trap games, but I do not think a home game against Depaul qualifies. If it was on the road, there is always the potential for a problem, like the USF game. But at home, you take care of your business, you put on a show for your fans and students and play hard for them and you. I would be shocked and disappointed if this game is competitive late in the 2nd half.
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guru
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Post by guru on Feb 18, 2013 9:45:44 GMT -5
One at a time. All this talk about polls, Big East finish, and seeding is all premature. Take care of 'em one at a time and the rest will take care of itself. I still see 4 very possible losses left for this team - I hope they are practicing and guarding against the same. 4 possible losses are also 4 possible wins. /moment of zen
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 18, 2013 9:57:21 GMT -5
BigDog, this is everyone's Board , not yours. Pound sand! Big Dog is the one saying that we should be free to discuss things. What he's saying is entirely consistent with the idea that it's "everyone's board." Your personal attack is directly at odds with the idea that it is "everyone's board."
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 18, 2013 9:58:32 GMT -5
I am usually the one talking about trap games, but I do not think a home game against Depaul qualifies. If it was on the road, there is always the potential for a problem, like the USF game. But at home, you take care of your business, you put on a show for your fans and students and play hard for them and you. I would be shocked and disappointed if this game is competitive late in the 2nd half. Yes.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 18, 2013 10:00:59 GMT -5
BigDog, this is everyone's Board , not yours. Pound sand! This seems an overreaction and unnecessary.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Feb 18, 2013 10:08:27 GMT -5
Johnny deleted - are you in charge?
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 18, 2013 10:18:10 GMT -5
OK people, enough commenting about other commenters. What about the DePaul game?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 18, 2013 10:28:44 GMT -5
It is everyone's board, so stop with the thread policing and telling me that "one game at a time" nonsense. And DePaul plays fast, Adj. Tempo 73.5, #2 in the nation. Contrast that with the Hoyas, 63.0, #293. True clash of styles.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 18, 2013 10:33:33 GMT -5
Gtown really hasn't dominate anyone. The ND game is the only one that comes to mind in the BE. We normally win gritty games in which we turn a 4 pt lead into a 8-10 pt win late. DePaul can score and Melvin would be a BE POY candidate if he were on Quette or any other Top 5 BE team. It's really easy for a team to get caught looking pass a team like DePaul when things are going as good as they are now. We should win the game but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 57-51 final score............ We beat Seton Hall by 22 at home. Both St. John's games we dominated pretty easily. ND as you pointed out. Depaul puts up points because they play fast and take tons of shots, but they're not very efficient. And they're by far the worst defensive team in the BE. If we only score 57, that's a bad sign and we probably lose. I'm thinking more like 72-60. Would love to see 83-61 or something. Apparently those games don't count...
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 18, 2013 10:43:12 GMT -5
Johnny poopshare - are you in charge? Wow. Simply stunning. Back to discussing the Depaul game. Depaul plays fast. Very fast. And misses a lot of shots. Lately our guys have shown improved ability on the fast break. Assuming they don't get reckless about it, it would be nice to see them put on a bit of a show in front of the home crowd. Thompson's teams have generally proven to be pretty successful playing at a faster pace. And I think this team certainly has the IQ, the poise, and the ballhandlers to be able to do it under control and still keep their focus on the defensive end.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 18, 2013 11:02:42 GMT -5
Our guys are also pretty darn good at dictating pace. Should be interesting....
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 18, 2013 11:10:41 GMT -5
DePaul is 2nd in the nation in pace, with an adjusted tempo of 73.5. The second fastest team in the Big East is Villanova, at 68.0, which is 91st in the nation. St. John's is the fastest team in the Big East we've played, at 67.7, 102nd fastest. The most possessions we've had in a game was 72, against Longwood (we also had 71 possessions against Duquesne and UCLA)
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 18, 2013 11:33:25 GMT -5
This group does not strike me as a team that will look past anyone. They have been focused for every game of this streak. I expect us to handle Depaul by double digits, then snowmobile into Suckacuse and punch the orangeboys in the mouth, steal their lunch money, and sled back out of town with the W.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 18, 2013 12:11:31 GMT -5
This group does not strike me as a team that will look past anyone. They have been focused for every game of this streak. I expect us to handle Depaul by double digits, then snowmobile into Suckacuse and punch the orangeboys in the mouth, steal their lunch money, and sled back out of town with the W. I love every bit of this. Frazier FTW!
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Feb 18, 2013 12:13:10 GMT -5
I haven't yet checked the stats to confirm this, but I feel like we tend to play particularly well, relative to how we play against other bad teams, against bad teams that try to speed up the tempo.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 18, 2013 12:20:23 GMT -5
Well I think we just play well in general when things are sped up regardless of opponent.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 18, 2013 12:49:04 GMT -5
Well I think we just play well in general when things are sped up regardless of opponent. +1
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nathanhm
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Post by nathanhm on Feb 18, 2013 13:16:11 GMT -5
Well I think we just play well in general when things are sped up regardless of opponent. +1 Since JT3 has been here in games with a pace of 70+ possessions we are 34-9 (.791). Of those games against teams that are bad but not quite cupcakes (KenPom between 100-200 or any BE team below 100 ranking we are 7-0. In the past 3 seasons we've gotten much better at playing teams that speed us up going 15-1.
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Post by Deez Scruggs on Feb 18, 2013 14:02:26 GMT -5
Since JT3 has been here in games with a pace of 70+ possessions we are 34-9 (.791). Of those games against teams that are bad but not quite cupcakes (KenPom between 100-200 or any BE team below 100 ranking we are 7-0. In the past 3 seasons we've gotten much better at playing teams that speed us up going 15-1. Quality info. Thanks.
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Post by bmartin on Feb 18, 2013 14:48:48 GMT -5
Generally teams have sped Georgetown up by not playing very good defense so we have torched them without needing much time to find open shots. UCLA & St Johns this season; DePaul twice, Providence, Memphis twice, and Missouri in the two previous seasons. The common denominator is bad defense. We play faster when we have wide open layups and easy mismatches against undisciplined defenses, especially man to man.
Marquette last season is the only team to win a >70 possession game against Georgetown in the past 3 years because they were the only one to hold us under 1 point per possession. We played faster mainly because we were trying to catch up.
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