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Post by Admin on Sept 24, 2012 12:18:01 GMT -5
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derhoya
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Post by derhoya on Sept 24, 2012 14:01:45 GMT -5
Blah. Not excited about that.
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Sept 24, 2012 14:29:44 GMT -5
Contract extensions aren't anything to get too excited about, but Kelly has done very well the last couple years and I'm glad he's sticking around.
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Post by 98hoya on Sept 24, 2012 14:31:04 GMT -5
Congrats to him for his turnaround.
Coach Kelly's success, seems to me, will be dictated in the near future in much larger part by what the school decides re: support and scholarships.
There is no amount of motivating, expert play calling, or recruiting, that I think will keep us in the ballgame with opponents that in 4 years will have 60 full scholarship players and much nicer facilities.
I think we can succeed with a little less, because attending Georgetown has a cache that will draw some recruits that attending, say, Lafayette doesn't have. But still, I don't know what chances we'll have without those other factors resolved.
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Post by jgalt on Sept 24, 2012 20:38:27 GMT -5
Blah. Not excited about that. Sure, but is there a better option? There might be some young guys who are phenoms who would coach at gtown for the money we offer, but they will leave after their success. You can keep Kelly for some more time and actually try to build a program. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, in this case at least. Also you can always buy this contract out if necessary.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Sept 24, 2012 23:33:40 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding me.
Kelly has done nothing to deserve this, except hiring the last OC. Without Patenaude, he has been an incredibly mediocre head coach.
Talk to anyone around the program and no one has a favorable opinion of the man.
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Post by ahoyadad on Sept 25, 2012 6:17:34 GMT -5
always so refreshing to hear from probofdog! just wondering....when did you speak with "everyone around the program"?? to share such a fact with us?
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derhoya
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Post by derhoya on Sept 25, 2012 17:47:56 GMT -5
You've got to be kidding me. Kelly has done nothing to deserve this, except hiring the last OC. Without Patenaude, he has been an incredibly mediocre head coach. Talk to anyone around the program and no one has a favorable opinion of the man. ahoyadad, PoD isn't far off. Having tried to get to know him as a player & fan, he's just a socially awkward dude. And frankly, he's only still @ Gtown b/c Hofstra disbanded their program, we were able to get Patenaude on the cheap, and Patenaude's offensive calls turned the program around. Kelly gets the 'credit' when under his 'leadership', he wouldn't fire the previous OC b/c that's not how Kelly operates. We had to wait for the former OC to get a lateral job or promotion (in this case to a larger program - Akron) in order to rid ourselves of his tentative play calling. The former OC was a great guy but terrible play caller. We really lucked out when the previous OC left and Patenaude came on the market at the same time. It should have been obvious that Patenaude was using Gtown as a springboard to restart his coaching career. I'm sure the current OC (don't know his name) may hope for the same following his 'departure' from columbia. Edit: It should be noted - the former HC, Bob Benson, had a cushy 5 yr extension in 2003 or 2004 but was out before the 2006 season hit. Extensions mean nothing really besides a higher number Gtown may have to buyout one day.
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Post by hoyagarnet55 on Sept 25, 2012 20:34:57 GMT -5
Patenaude should be the HC of Georgetown. He is the reason for the turnaround of the offense and brought immense change to that side of the ball. Gtown should have done everything possible to keep him and the best way would have been to promote him.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 25, 2012 21:41:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure whether Dave Patenaude was that good, or the bar set by Elliot Uzelac and Jim Miceli was sufficiently low that any consistent offensive effort would show results. Whether he aspires to be a head coaching candidate, I don't know.
I would think Patenaude saw Georgetown as an opportunity to get back into coaching after Hofstra went sour, and as a transitional job should better opportunities become available and that's fine--the job of an assistant is fairly nomadic as Coach Kelly can attest.
This is a week of accomplishment for Coach Kelly and it should be recognized as such. Three years ago, he's struggling through an 0-11 season, no athletic director in place to make a decision on whether he is back for 2010, and lots of negative recruiting that the program was on life support. Three years later, he's on national TV, his team has won 11 of its last 15, is being honored this week as the 2012 Hoyas Unlimited Coach of the Year, and has a institutional commitment going forward as the program faces an uncertain course in a very different Patriot League. A far cry from 2009.
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