aggypryd
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 10:57:49 GMT -5
...I was looking up the recruits for next year and I got all 'Goose-Pimply'...
I didn't realize that Egerson and Spann were that tall...
I hope Tyler Crawford doesn't get lost in the 'mix' because he looks like he could be a "throw-back" Hoya...looks like he can be a 'Mark Tillmon' type...
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Post by the_way on Mar 14, 2005 11:48:45 GMT -5
...I was looking up the recruits for next year and I got all 'Goose-Pimply'... I didn't realize that Egerson and Spann were that tall... I hope Tyler Crawford doesn't get lost in the 'mix' because he looks like he could be a "throw-back" Hoya...looks like he can be a 'Mark Tillmon' type... Nah, Tillmon played point. Crawford is really a 3 in a 2's body. |
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 12:52:02 GMT -5
Nah, Tillmon played point. Crawford is really a 3 in a 2's body. That's what I like about Crawford...he reminds me of a Blue Collar type player...I hope he gets some time at the two... I'm quite sure Tillmon was shooting guard...Duane Bryant and Charles Smith were the Point guards when Tillmon was here... |
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Post by the_way on Mar 14, 2005 12:54:10 GMT -5
That's what I like about Crawford...he reminds me of a Blue Collar type player... I'm quite sure Tillmon was shooting guard...Duane Bryant and Charles Smith were the Point guards when Tillmon was here... In Tillmon's senior year, he ran the point. |
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Post by YB on Mar 14, 2005 12:56:49 GMT -5
I love what Tyler brought to the table this year. The fact that Coach actually called out Tyler as being a "worker" means he likely has a high opinion of him too, and will continue to play him minutes the more he works.
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 12:57:30 GMT -5
Does anyone else remember Tillmon running point?
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Post by NoCleverName on Mar 14, 2005 13:49:43 GMT -5
Tillmon (nice guy, by the way) was a 2. He was classmates with Bryant who was the point guard. If Tillmon ever played point, it was very limited. In addition to Bryant, there was Charles Smith and Bobby Winston playing the point on those teams.
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Post by kghoya on Mar 14, 2005 13:52:11 GMT -5
bryant was the point
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 13:56:15 GMT -5
Tillmon (nice guy, by the way) was a 2. He was classmates with Bryant who was the point guard. If Tillmon ever played point, it was very limited. In addition to Bryant, there was Charles Smith and Bobby Winston playing the point on those teams. Good ol' Bobby Winston... does anyone remember the 'Cuse game in the Carrier Dome in '89? Do you remember Big John yelling obscenities at Bobby Winston? "COVER THE 'EFF-ING' BASELINE, BOBBY!!!" |
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Post by 1803 on Mar 14, 2005 14:06:01 GMT -5
Crawford was so good getting loose for backdoor layups (although he missed a few), that I feel his time will only increase. The backdoor, and more importantly, the threat of the backdoor is the signature play in this offense. It keeps the D honest, which opens up things no the perimeter, plus it is so fun to watch when it is run correctly.
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Post by HoyaChris on Mar 14, 2005 14:11:31 GMT -5
Does anyone else remember Tillmon running point? I think what The_Way is remembering is that late in Bryant's senior year we would more than occasionally have Tillmon handle the ball in order to get Bryant some catch and shoot spot up jumpers. It was not, however, the primary way we ran the offense. |
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 14:12:40 GMT -5
Crawford was so good getting loose for backdoor layups (although he missed a few), that I feel his time will only increase. The backdoor, and more importantly, the threat of the backdoor is the signature play in this offense. It keeps the D honest, which opens up things no the perimeter, plus it is so fun to watch when it is run correctly. They are definitely getting better and more comfortable running it... A couple of times during the UCONN game I was saying, "JEFF!! What the hel....OH!!! Nice Pass!!!" |
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Post by paranoia2 on Mar 14, 2005 14:48:13 GMT -5
Bryant and David Edwards manned the point during Bryant and Tillmon's senior year. ANtoine Stoudamire was Tillmon's backup. Next year's guard rotation will be fearsome with Cook, Reed, Crawford, Sapp and Thornton all fighting for minutes. Edgerson, Bowman, and Spann round out what could be a pressing stormtrooper-like perimeter group. A quick aside: Ray Reed's play against UCONN put us in position to win that game. His defense was (dare I say?) almost a little Gene Smith-like.
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Post by YB on Mar 14, 2005 14:50:26 GMT -5
agree, paranoia- I have said all year that Ray has a definite role on this team, that of defensive stopper on quick PGs. He did that very well last weekend.
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 14:51:56 GMT -5
Bryant and David Edwards manned the point during Bryant and Tillmon's senior year. ANtoine Stoudamire was Tillmon's backup. Next year's guard rotation will be fearsome with Cook, Reed, Crawford, Sapp and Thornton all fighting for minutes. Edgerson, Bowman, and Spann round out what could be a pressing stormtrooper-like perimeter group. A quick aside: Ray Reed's play against UCONN put us in position to win that game. His defense was (dare I say?) almost a little Gene Smith-like. Don't know how I forgot about David Edwards... Yeah...Ray Reed did 'Hawk-it-up' against UCONN...I definitely liked that... If Bowman is more assertive on offense, he can have a BEAST of a season...a couple of those drives against UCONN, he should have been 'flushin'' that ball down Villanueva's throat... |
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Post by the_way on Mar 14, 2005 14:56:24 GMT -5
I think what The_Way is remembering is that late in Bryant's senior year we would more than occasionally have Tillmon handle the ball in order to get Bryant some catch and shoot spot up jumpers. It was not, however, the primary way we ran the offense. Yeah, you are right HoyaChris. |
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 14, 2005 15:00:24 GMT -5
Yeah, you are right HoyaChris. definitely remember that also... we use to do the same with Iverson...they'd let Victor, Boubacar, or Joseph get things started at the top and Allen would run the baseline or pop-off a screen... |
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 14, 2005 23:51:58 GMT -5
Didn't see too much of the Hoyas this year - mainly the replays, but what I saw gives me optimism for next year. We have two solid players in BB and Jeff (both having some spectacular highlights) and some very decent role players. Add to that mix the freshmen coming in and we could make a lot of noise next year. Especially with a year under their belts of the JTIII system.
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Post by MetsHatHoya on Mar 15, 2005 10:46:54 GMT -5
I dfntly can wait till next year and even the kenner to see how these freshmen play....
i think 2 of the key players to also examine in the offseason will be SEAD and Cornelio (possibly AKD as well)....we need one of these guys to step up their game and provide 10-15 minutes off the bench if we want to compete for a bid.....With 2 years under his belt im hoping it will be sead's opportunity to show what he can do...
also, ive heard in the past that egerson has had trouble with grades....Anyone know if he is qualified to play for us next year?
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 15, 2005 10:54:22 GMT -5
I dfntly can wait till next year and even the kenner to see how these freshmen play.... also, ive heard in the past that egerson has had trouble with grades....Anyone know if he is qualified to play for us next year? I know that academics was the main reason he headed to Philly Lutheran for a prep year, so I'm assuming (hoping?) that he's now got them in order... |
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