EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 5, 2012 16:17:31 GMT -5
So you know for sure that playing a different style or getting an "athletic, traditional pg who values the ball" will get G'town to a final 4 or a championship? Again--different style isn't needed-it's called being able to play anyway possible. I do believe Georgetown will get to Final 4 and eventually win a title if they address the PG in a different way. More weapons/ways you can attack a team, the better your chances. III has re-established Georgetown as a program that matters--top 20-30 program consistently. To take next step, you need to re-evaluate some things-and this is one area they can improve. Name one team who has won the National Championship in modern era that gets little from transition/nothing out of their defense? You can't. What makes a great team is great players-and I agree with III-you recruit players/not positions--but you also have to realize-where your great players are--the other spots need roles that are filled. Why continue to get beat in same method--by quick guards and without a guy who is strong handling the ball/create some offense and has athleticism to defend opposing guards? Nobody in BE utilizes his system and not many elite programs you'll have to beat do--so you need to be able to adapt to what they do and play their type of game--which will allow you to make them play style you prefer. Best way to explain point MCI/I are trying to make--if you are a championship FB team--you want balance. Thing is-balance in a game isn't what is needed-because some opponents can't stop the run, others can't stop the pass or if you fall behind, you have to be able to go no huddle/throw the ball. It's just nice to know that no matter how the game is going-you are able to adapt. The team Hoyas have is like a great option team. They run their system great--but when they fall behind or a team has answers, they often sit back and just try to excecute their system better. RDF, I agree with your premise of having a base offense but keeping open the possibilities of playing different styles depending on opponent, game situation ect.. Your FB reference is excellent and again I agree.. However I feel JT3 can implement those things with the team he has right now and he could have done different things with teams in the past also. He doesn't need new players to do these things, he just needs the want to. I came to the conclusion awhile ago that Coach 3 is gonna do things the way he's most comfortable, regardless of any other circumstances. He knows what types of players he wants and he recruits that type. We were all happy when Markel signed on, JT3 also recruited Ty Johnson and Quinn Cook aggressively so he's tried to get other ball handlers in the program but it didn't work out so to me you can't say "he's not addressing the PG postion". In my opinion It's hard to argue with his methods when they're winning for him and us so I'm fine with it in the long run. I know the team has been SMACKED around in the postseason the past couple of years but at least they were there. Markel hasn't lived up to his potential this year, there's no question about that but you have to admit the kid has the tools to be a very good player he just needs to find himself. Truth be told 2013 is the earliest another guard will enter the program so we'd all better pray he reaches his potential soon.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 5, 2012 16:20:22 GMT -5
CW went from an awful shooter to a really good shooter. Fact: CW won the 3-point shooting contest at the McD All-American game. He had the stroke before getting here. It's not like he got lucky that day. Oh, god, this the most cited thing ever, and it's ridiculous. Chris Wright was a streaky shooter from day one and pretty much stayed that way. He won the three-point shooting contest at the McD's game. So F'ing what? For about 15 shots, he was hot. He was hot and cold in high school and was never a three-point marksman. Aside from a small sample of 28 attempts freshman year, he consistently shot 33% from three. That's not good. Citing a three point contest is worse than citing a single high school game.
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Post by Omega on Mar 5, 2012 16:24:29 GMT -5
Some of you need to quit it. The team plays at a good enough tempo. So reactionary.......
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Post by thejerseytornado on Mar 5, 2012 17:20:58 GMT -5
And Markel shot .370 on about 90 3 point attempts after looking awful as a frosh shooter. this whole thread is just bizarre at this point.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 5, 2012 22:59:33 GMT -5
Oh, god, this the most cited thing ever, and it's ridiculous. Chris Wright was a streaky shooter from day one and pretty much stayed that way. He won the three-point shooting contest at the McD's game. So F'ing what? For about 15 shots, he was hot. He was hot and cold in high school and was never a three-point marksman. CW was 48% from 3 his freshman year, then averaged 33% the rest of the way. To the original point that I addressed, he didn't improve his shooting throughout his career. As for the 3-point contest, it is what it is. Throughout his career, he was inconsistent, not just in his shooting. That day he was Good Chris. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2012 23:37:10 GMT -5
Worst thread ever… lol.. What does it all mean...
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Post by prhoya on Mar 6, 2012 12:48:25 GMT -5
I'm guessing you haven't read the Latavious thread...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 13:39:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing you haven't read the Latavious thread... Victim of the moment, but yeah.. All I got out of this is RDF isn’t right all of the time and some people like him and some don’t.. Unfortunately I have no idea what his his handle or shot looks like and if were recruiting him or if he has any eligibility left. Can I get a Youtube link or something?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 6, 2012 14:10:36 GMT -5
;D Latavious was a recruit a couple of years ago. Strange recruitment situation does not begin to describe it. Anyway, the thread became the longest in Hoyatalk (around 50 pgs.) until surpassed late last year by Kyle Anderson's. It's somewhere in the recruiting board.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 6, 2012 14:33:14 GMT -5
I've seen RDF play. He has the range of Jerome Williams and the handle of Jerelle Benimon. Unfortunately, he's out of eligibility. ;D
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Post by HometownHoya on Mar 6, 2012 14:39:57 GMT -5
I've seen RDF play. He has the range of Jerome Williams and the handle of Jerelle Benimon. Unfortunately, he's out of eligibility. ;D Does he have the shot of Jerimiah Rivers because I'm sure we could find an extra year for a talent like that, not to mention his basketball IQ
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2012 15:03:06 GMT -5
;D Latavious was a recruit a couple of years ago. Strange recruitment situation does not begin to describe it. Anyway, the thread became the longest in Hoyatalk (around 50 pgs.) until surpassed late last year by Kyle Anderson's. It's somewhere in the recruiting board. Yeah I remember I used to lurk the board back then before my account got approved.. Where did he end up, Europe right?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 6, 2012 17:01:37 GMT -5
No idea.
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Post by RDF on Mar 6, 2012 23:39:21 GMT -5
I've got the fouling propensity of a young Don Reid--except all of my fouls are flagrant and with bounty intent. ;D
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Post by tashoya on Mar 7, 2012 9:53:24 GMT -5
Man I loved me some Don Reid.
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Post by grokamok on Mar 7, 2012 16:21:34 GMT -5
Reid came in with good hops for such a big man (nice showing in stuff before the season began -- can't remember if it was Kenner or some exhibition like Ft. Hood) and looked like he'd have a big impact, but definitely played like a freshman. I'd say Zo lost about 1.2 blocks/game based on the unnecessary "rush in and foul the guy from the side as he's about to get stuffed" play. Fast forward a few years and he was on his way to a career in the NBA, with Coach dancing a jig, to boot -- loved how he developed!
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Post by RDF on Mar 7, 2012 17:05:19 GMT -5
Reid came in with good hops for such a big man (nice showing in stuff before the season began -- can't remember if it was Kenner or some exhibition like Ft. Hood) and looked like he'd have a big impact, but definitely played like a freshman. I'd say Zo lost about 1.2 blocks/game based on the unnecessary "rush in and foul the guy from the side as he's about to get stuffed" play. Fast forward a few years and he was on his way to a career in the NBA, with Coach dancing a jig, to boot -- loved how he developed! Loved Don Reid as well but for those old enough to remember--he would pick up fouls faster then I p-i-s-s people off.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 7, 2012 18:02:02 GMT -5
;D Latavious was a recruit a couple of years ago. Strange recruitment situation does not begin to describe it. Anyway, the thread became the longest in Hoyatalk (around 50 pgs.) until surpassed late last year by Kyle Anderson's. It's somewhere in the recruiting board. Yeah I remember I used to lurk the board back then before my account got approved.. Where did he end up, Europe right? According to Wikipedia, he is playing for Spanish team FIATC Joventut.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 7, 2012 18:53:33 GMT -5
Reid came in with good hops for such a big man (nice showing in stuff before the season began -- can't remember if it was Kenner or some exhibition like Ft. Hood) and looked like he'd have a big impact, but definitely played like a freshman. I'd say Zo lost about 1.2 blocks/game based on the unnecessary "rush in and foul the guy from the side as he's about to get stuffed" play. Fast forward a few years and he was on his way to a career in the NBA, with Coach dancing a jig, to boot -- loved how he developed! Loved Don Reid as well but for those old enough to remember--he would pick up fouls faster then I p-i-s-s people off. Don't exaggerate.
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Post by grokamok on Mar 7, 2012 23:39:05 GMT -5
Reid came in with good hops for such a big man (nice showing in stuff before the season began -- can't remember if it was Kenner or some exhibition like Ft. Hood) and looked like he'd have a big impact, but definitely played like a freshman. I'd say Zo lost about 1.2 blocks/game based on the unnecessary "rush in and foul the guy from the side as he's about to get stuffed" play. Fast forward a few years and he was on his way to a career in the NBA, with Coach dancing a jig, to boot -- loved how he developed! Loved Don Reid as well but for those old enough to remember--he would pick up fouls faster then I p-i-s-s people off. I think my near-agreement, here, must have been lost by it's being nested in the middle of the text of my post...
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