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Post by SSHoya on Oct 24, 2017 16:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 24, 2017 19:40:54 GMT -5
Jeff having a nice game tonight. 13 points, including 6-6 from the FT line. Sounds as if Jeff is getting more aggressive. He is a +6 so far, L. James, -1.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 24, 2017 20:54:24 GMT -5
Jeff ended with 16, third leading scorer. Hopefully he will have plenty of nights like this.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 25, 2017 21:45:30 GMT -5
Jeff with 18 and 6-6 from the FT line and +5 (L.James -2) in a loss to the Nets.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Oct 25, 2017 21:50:19 GMT -5
Jeff Green with back to back good games with 18/6/3 & 2 blocks on only 11 FGA's tonight in a Cavs loss in BK.
Has been the Cavs best perimeter defender. Last nigh He was excellent in defending multiple positios including the bulls PGs in the 4th.
I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong in JG's fit with Cavs. He's healthy again and seems motivated. I know it's very early but so far he's got excellent chemistry with both James and Wade. Has clearly outplayed Crowder on both sides of the ball. Might translate JG either being moved to starting lineup or at least more than the 16-20 minutes he's been averaging so far.
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Post by s4hoyas on Oct 25, 2017 21:54:04 GMT -5
Keep on peddlin',Jeff!
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 27, 2017 22:01:50 GMT -5
Otto with 11 pts and 5 rbs in first qtr v. Warriors.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Oct 27, 2017 23:48:05 GMT -5
Wizards have blown their lead against Golden State, but Otto has been absolutely insane tonight. He is a star now.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Oct 28, 2017 0:05:59 GMT -5
Wizards fell 120-117 but Otto put up 29 & 10. Made some very clutch shots in the 4th quarter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 10:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 28, 2017 11:25:48 GMT -5
Otto played well, but Wall has not shot the ball well this yr, and shot poorly in this game. The Wiz blew an 18 pt 3rd quarter lead. Good game for Otto, but bad loss for the Wizards.
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Post by navio on Oct 28, 2017 11:34:05 GMT -5
I am a huge John Wall fan, but I have to say that Otto has easily been the best player on the team this season. Wall will eventually get it going, but he is trying to force mid range jumpers right now.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Oct 28, 2017 12:18:36 GMT -5
The Wizards will regret extending Wall the franchise player max contract this offseason. Wall is not a superstar PG but he's being paid by the Wizards like he is one. He thrives/eats off of his speed and athleticism. 7 plus seasons in the Association and still can't shoot. Suspect mid range/pull up game. Poor shooter from 3pt range. You don't pay 37+ million $$$ or 35% of your salary cap (which he will be making starting in 2019-2020) a year to a suspect shooter. Wall's ego is what hurts the Wizards. The Wizards as a team are most effective when he doesn't lead the team in shots. Unfortunately that doesn't happen enough and his ego won't allow anyone to outshine him for an extended period of time. Wizards won't win in the post season until he Wall focuses solely on be a playmaker for his teammates like the improving Oubre, Beal and Porter, and becomes a secondary shooter/scorer on this team until he improves his perimeter game.
Otto Porter will be the Wizards outright best player in less than 2 years if Wall's ego will allow it.
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Post by zxhoya on Oct 28, 2017 12:55:36 GMT -5
The Wizards will regret extending Wall the franchise player max contract this offseason. Wall is not a superstar PG but he's being paid by the Wizards like he is one. He thrives/eats off of his speed and athleticism. 7 plus seasons in the Association and still can't shoot. Suspect mid range/pull up game. Poor shooter from 3pt range. You don't pay 37+ million $$$ or 35% of your salary cap (which he will be making starting in 2019-2020) a year to a suspect shooter. Wall's ego is what hurts the Wizards. The Wizards as a team are most effective when he doesn't lead the team in shots. Unfortunately that doesn't happen enough and his ego won't allow anyone to outshine him for an extended period of time. Wizards won't win in the post season until he Wall focuses solely on be a playmaker for his teammates like the improving Oubre, Beal and Porter, and becomes a secondary shooter/scorer on this team until he improves his perimeter game. Otto Porter will be the Wizards outright best player in less than 2 years if Wall's ego will allow it. Agree with just about everything you stated above but the Wizards are one of those franchises that has to Max "their best player" even if it proves to be the wrong move in the future. I agree 100% about Wall's ego being his biggest hindrance and will prevent the Wizards from being a top 2 team in the east. Stephen A. Smith lit into Wall after the Lakers debacle and I agreed completely with take on the matter. So proud of Otto as a Hoyas and Wizards fan. He's maturing as a player and a man and he, Beal and Oubre are the future of the Wiz.
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Post by 95hoya on Oct 28, 2017 13:17:18 GMT -5
You guys are hilarious with these hot takes. Wall is the best player on the Wiz by far. He shot very well from mid range last year and has improved to a capable, okay 3 point shooter. He also is the best in the league at setting up teammates to score. You guys are Otto fans, not Wizards fans. I get it, but the comments are so jaded.
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Post by iowa80 on Oct 28, 2017 13:25:09 GMT -5
You guys are hilarious with these hot takes. Wall is the best player on the Wiz by far. He shot very well from mid range last year and has improved to a capable, okay 3 point shooter. He also is the best in the league at setting up teammates to score. You guys are Otto fans, not Wizards fans. I get it, but the comments are so jaded. Agreed on Wall, but let's not go overboard (best in the league is a judgment call). It's a real conundrum for those of us who want to root for Otto but don't particularly care for the Wiz (especially the likes of Kelly Oubre), but hopefully we recognize how good Wall is.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 28, 2017 13:40:16 GMT -5
Wall was #2 last year in assists per game, pretty darn good.
But he shot under 50% on all 2's, including layups, much less than "very well" from mid-range.
He could certainly focus a little less on his own shot. And 32% from three is weak for a point guard.
But as Wall goes, so go the Wizards.
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Post by 95hoya on Oct 28, 2017 13:41:05 GMT -5
Who is the best distributor in the league?
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Oct 28, 2017 13:53:17 GMT -5
You guys are hilarious with these hot takes. Wall is the best player on the Wiz by far. He shot very well from mid range last year and has improved to a capable, okay 3 point shooter. He also is the best in the league at setting up teammates to score. You guys are Otto fans, not Wizards fans. I get it, but the comments are so jaded. Your statement has all the telltale signs of a Fanboy post when the numbers just don't add up to your hyperboles...
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Post by iowa80 on Oct 28, 2017 13:54:00 GMT -5
Who is the best distributor in the league? "Bests" can be pretty subjective once one tries to narrow a few really good players down to one. I certainly agree that Wall is in the conversation, as are Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook and maybe even others that I'm forgetting. Let's not forget that the ability of one's teammates to finish and the team's style of play has an effect on this as well, which may be why James Harden ranks high in stats as a distributor.
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