jorand
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Post by jorand on May 16, 2017 8:23:55 GMT -5
Could not have asked for a much better season for Otto. Will he get the max though? I would love to see him stay in DC Wiz will probably give him the max. They really don't want to mess with that starting lineup outside of Gortat. I suspect the Wiz will let Otto test the market and match whatever offer he gets. As a Wizards fan I'm hoping it's slightly less than max. Personally, I see Otto as a 17-18m player.
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Post by Eurostar on May 16, 2017 9:14:58 GMT -5
Wall really lost that game for them. He looked tired the entire 2nd half, stopped attacking with drive/dish, and stopped playing defense. Mid 3rd quarter he started complaining to the refs because he didn't get some calls, then he started pouting and not playing aggressively the rest of the game. They needed to play the bench a bit more and at least spell Wall for 2-3 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter.
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Post by beenaround on May 16, 2017 10:30:56 GMT -5
Wall really lost that game for them. He looked tired the entire 2nd half, stopped attacking with drive/dish, and stopped playing defense. Mid 3rd quarter he started complaining to the refs because he didn't get some calls, then he started pouting and not playing aggressively the rest of the game. They needed to play the bench a bit more and at least spell Wall for 2-3 minutes at the end of the 3rd quarter. Well said. And in the last few minutes ignored Otto and Bogs when they were open so that he could heave 3 pointers . But real proud of Otto for stepping up before a hostile crowd in a Game 7.
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zxhoya
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Post by zxhoya on May 16, 2017 13:30:16 GMT -5
Wiz will probably give him the max. They really don't want to mess with that starting lineup outside of Gortat. I suspect the Wiz will let Otto test the market and match whatever offer he gets. As a Wizards fan I'm hoping it's slightly less than max. Personally, I see Otto as a 17-18m player. Otto is definitely more than a 17-18 minute player, he's a quality starter who's only 23 y/old. Otto's progression from last season to this season was significant and I anticipate that growth will continue. All Otto needs is to get stronger and to increase his explosiveness and I believe that will happen. If I where the Wizards, I would bet on Otto just like they did on Beal but I'm not sure he's a max player but Otto's getting paid.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 16, 2017 13:34:45 GMT -5
I suspect the Wiz will let Otto test the market and match whatever offer he gets. As a Wizards fan I'm hoping it's slightly less than max. Personally, I see Otto as a 17-18m player. Otto is definitely more than a 17-18 minute player, he's a quality starter who's only 23 y/old. Otto's progression from last season to this season was significant and I anticipate that growth will continue. All Otto needs is to get stronger and to increase his explosiveness and I believe that will happen. If I where the Wizards, I would bet on Otto just like they did on Beal but I'm not sure he's a max player but Otto's getting paid. I think he means $$ 17-18 million per year not "minutes."
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Post by nychoya3 on May 16, 2017 14:10:51 GMT -5
He's going to get more than $18 million. There are a bunch of teams that will have $30 million plus in cap space. Some of them are bad - Philly, Sacramento, Brooklyn, Knicks - but teams like Minnesota, Miami that have a future will also kick the tires with Otto. He's still so young and he has consistently improved. If you believe the three point shooting is for real, he's a max guy for sure.
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Post by guru on May 16, 2017 14:15:57 GMT -5
I suspect the Wiz will let Otto test the market and match whatever offer he gets. As a Wizards fan I'm hoping it's slightly less than max. Personally, I see Otto as a 17-18m player. Otto is definitely more than a 17-18 minute player, he's a quality starter who's only 23 y/old. Otto's progression from last season to this season was significant and I anticipate that growth will continue. All Otto needs is to get stronger and to increase his explosiveness and I believe that will happen. If I where the Wizards, I would bet on Otto just like they did on Beal but I'm not sure he's a max player but Otto's getting paid. millions, not minutes. Slight difference
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Post by williambraskyiii on May 16, 2017 14:21:21 GMT -5
Kent Bazemore got 4 yrs, $70 mil. Otto gonna get a lot more.
Wiz have two ball dominant guards. It is a question of whether they think Otto's complementary game is worth the max, or if they want to use that $ to get a couple other pieces to bolster the bench/frontcourt and sub in a bogs or oubre.
Mahinmi and Gortat, plus the bench, cooked them last night. I'm not gonna rag on Wall b/c without him, Wiz wouldn't even be sniffing a G7.
If you are Ted, I think you build with your 26 yo and two 23 yo guys, but it is a lot of money. Someone like BKLYN is gonna throw the max at Otto I think, so we will see what Wiz do in response.
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beenaround
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Post by beenaround on May 16, 2017 22:28:18 GMT -5
Will be very interesting. The Nets have supposedly liked him all year and they make the dumbest decisions, so maybe they throw 25M or more at Otto. Agree that Sac is another possibility and maybe Knicks if they move Melo. Im watching most Wiz games because of our boy...but really can't argue it is wise to pay much more than 4 yrs 80...a notch up from Bazemore. Bazemore, btw is not significantly worse than Otto. He is not as good, but not a joke, either.
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Post by zxhoya on May 16, 2017 23:05:57 GMT -5
Okay, my bad.
If you are Otto, do you just take max money wherever it's offered? Do you go play for the Nets or the Kings e.g. and labor in the doldrums of basketball exile or do you take good money on a team that is competitive and complements his skill set like the Wizards?
John Wall and Markieff Morris have 2 more years on their contracts so the Wizards have to mindful of how much money is being doled out over the next couple of years. That being said , if I'm the Wizards i'd try my best to retain Otto as they have no 1st round pick this year, you just cant let assets walk for nothing.
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Post by SSHoya on May 17, 2017 5:41:00 GMT -5
Okay, my bad. If you are Otto, do you just take max money wherever it's offered? Do you go play for the Nets or the Kings e.g. and labor in the doldrums of basketball exile or do you take good money on a team that is competitive and complements his skill set like the Wizards? John Wall and Markieff Morris have 2 more years on their contracts so the Wizards have to mindful of how much money is being doled out over the next couple of years. That being said , if I'm the Wizards i'd try my best to retain Otto as they have no 1st round pick this year, you just cant let assets walk for nothing. I say no. Given my perception of Porter's character, I don't see him motivated solely by money. Why put yourself in NBA exile on franchises that have not demonstrated success or potential for success? He's in a city that he loves and by all appearances loves being on this team. I'd compare him to Strasburg of the Nats who signed a contract extension despite having Scott Boras as an agent who almost never advises clients to sign extensions without testing the market. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but perhaps Otto tests the market but ends up signing with the Wiz.
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Post by vv83 on May 17, 2017 6:26:29 GMT -5
Okay, my bad. If you are Otto, do you just take max money wherever it's offered? Do you go play for the Nets or the Kings e.g. and labor in the doldrums of basketball exile or do you take good money on a team that is competitive and complements his skill set like the Wizards? John Wall and Markieff Morris have 2 more years on their contracts so the Wizards have to mindful of how much money is being doled out over the next couple of years. That being said , if I'm the Wizards i'd try my best to retain Otto as they have no 1st round pick this year, you just cant let assets walk for nothing. I say no. Given my perception of Porter's character, I don't see him motivated solely by money. Why put yourself in NBA exile on franchises that have not demonstrated success or potential for success? He's in a city that he loves and by all appearances loves being on this team. I'd compare him to Strasburg of the Nats who signed a contract extension despite having Scott Boras as an agent who almost never advises clients to sign extensions without testing the market. Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part but perhaps Otto tests the market but ends up signing with the Wiz. David Falk is Otto's agent. I am pretty sure Falk has a long history of being a "show me the money"/Scott Boras-type agent in terms of guiding his players to the biggest possible paydays. There is a solid article in the Post today detailing why the Wizards are highly likely to match whatever contract Otto might sign with another team. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/what-price-continuity-the-wizards-are-about-to-find-out/2017/05/16/028b7f74-3a74-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.7063771813b6
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Post by tashoya on May 17, 2017 7:18:27 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto on the Spurs.
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 17, 2017 10:26:44 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto on the Pelicans!
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Post by CTHoya08 on May 17, 2017 10:43:52 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto on the Hoyas.
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 17, 2017 12:56:18 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto on the Hoyas. Shut it down! Let's go home!!!
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 17, 2017 13:08:37 GMT -5
Since we are moving to the Sacramento area, I would like to see Otto on the Kings. On second thought I would like to see Otto still in DC.
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Post by zxhoya on May 17, 2017 13:34:15 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto remain a Wizard and play with the Hoyas on his off days. tashoya, I always thought Otto would fit in perfect with the Spurs or the Warriors or the LeBron's, any team that plays fundamental basketball on both ends. The advantage of playing with Wall is his ability to draw and dish and Otto excelled with catch and shoot and of course cutting to the lane without the ball.
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Post by zxhoya on May 17, 2017 13:40:32 GMT -5
Taking reality out of the situation, I'd love to see Otto on the Hoyas. Shut it down! Let's go home!!! I want to cry Proof that one really good player can be a program changer.
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Post by beenaround on May 17, 2017 22:16:57 GMT -5
Yet...we got blown out by FGCU ...so that part of the narrative did NOT change even with Otto.
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