hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on May 13, 2017 9:26:25 GMT -5
Seemed content to stand in the corner and not get the ball. hm That is the Wizards offense; a "1-5" that gives Wall complete control, Beals the second option. Otto and the others spread to be open if the defense collapsed; unfortunately Otto was cold when he had some shots early, and they stopped going to him. He did have 7 boards and 2 assists, so at least he was able to contribute. Obviously he needs to step up big tomorrow, Wall and Beals won't be enough on the road. I hear you, but I've seen him more active...in the fourth quarter, an usher asked to see his ticket a couple of times. Let's hope he has it going on for game 7. hm
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2017 9:34:04 GMT -5
That's about the size of it. He's gonna get a fixed amount of shots every game in this lineup. He's shoots 50%, he'll score in double figures. If not...
During the year, he'd get some additional transition looks that just aren't available in the playoffs.
He's become a very good 3 & D guy, but I think there's another level to his game that he hasn't quite reached.
Regardless - he's gonna lose a lot of money if he lays another egg in game 7.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 13, 2017 10:06:50 GMT -5
I have never simply measured Otto's Game on point totals. If you watch him the whole game you'll see the same nose for the ball we saw when he was a Hoya and you'll see the little things being done that win games. That's what he has always been about. One or two off shooting games will not diminish the regard with which NBA coaches and GMs hold him. Just get Brad Stevens going about him.
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Post by joey0403p on May 13, 2017 13:53:05 GMT -5
I have never simply measured Otto's Game on point totals. If you watch him the whole game you'll see the same nose for the ball we saw when he was a Hoya and you'll see the little things being done that win games. That's what he has always been about. One or two off shooting games will not diminish the regard with which NBA coaches and GMs hold him. Just gut Brad Stevens going about him. I hear all that and agree. But he can't have zero. Thought the flow was off all game honestly. The team is much better when the ball is spread more. Beal and wall had 25 shots a piece, crazy.
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Post by beenaround on May 13, 2017 15:23:05 GMT -5
YUP.Otto really looked kind of out of it last night. Not much passion. I noticed even after they won and the players were celebrating, he did not seem involved. Two games ago he had 19 points and he was shouting and chest bumping. Anyway...would love to see him get 20 in Boston and move on to the Conference Finals.
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Post by 95hoya on May 14, 2017 15:09:31 GMT -5
I hope Otto gets a max deal but as a Wizards fan I hope they don't give it to him. Want to keep him, but not anywhere near the max.
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Post by beenaround on May 14, 2017 21:18:51 GMT -5
I do not believe that Max talk one bit. Otto's three point shooting dipped a fair amount in the second half of the year, when teams really made an effort to deny him easy open looks. He had a very good year..shot a very high pct from 2 and 3 , rebounded and lots of steals. But he is at best a third guy on a good team. In fact, I fear he would make a big mistake going to a Brooklyn or some other crappy team for a few extra bucks. The pressure of being THE MAN and being a number one or two option is not his role in the NBA. Like to see him stay with the Wiz or another good team, be the glue guy that he truly is, and have playoff success.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 14, 2017 23:22:07 GMT -5
I do not believe that Max talk one bit. Otto's three point shooting dipped a fair amount in the second half of the year, when teams really made an effort to deny him easy open looks. He had a very good year..shot a very high pct from 2 and 3 , rebounded and lots of steals. But he is at best a third guy on a good team. In fact, I fear he would make a big mistake going to a Brooklyn or some other crappy team for a few extra bucks. The pressure of being THE MAN and being a number one or two option is not his role in the NBA. Like to see him stay with the Wiz or another good team, be the glue guy that he truly is, and have playoff success. Because of the increased cap and salary limits on individual players, you don't have to be "THE MAN" to get a max contract (or something close to it) anymore. Basically the Lebron's of the world subsidize guys like Porter or Monroe who will get overpaid because the teams have the money to do it and they cannot pay superstars more.
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Post by dchoya72 on May 14, 2017 23:37:39 GMT -5
0-5 says someone..that's not a lot if shots at all JOHN Wall was 0/1-11 and kept shooting, of course he had the ball in his hands most of the time. WIzards chances of winning are greatly reduced when Otto is not working, moving without the ball. Let's hope John Wall and company sees and knows that,and keeps him involved. Otto is NOT a shrinking violet!
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Post by dchoya72 on May 14, 2017 23:39:29 GMT -5
Otto is a valuable and skilled player!
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Post by beenaround on May 15, 2017 10:33:57 GMT -5
I do not believe that Max talk one bit. Otto's three point shooting dipped a fair amount in the second half of the year, when teams really made an effort to deny him easy open looks. He had a very good year..shot a very high pct from 2 and 3 , rebounded and lots of steals. But he is at best a third guy on a good team. In fact, I fear he would make a big mistake going to a Brooklyn or some other crappy team for a few extra bucks. The pressure of being THE MAN and being a number one or two option is not his role in the NBA. Like to see him stay with the Wiz or another good team, be the glue guy that he truly is, and have playoff success. Because of the increased cap and salary limits on individual players, you don't have to be "THE MAN" to get a max contract (or something close to it) anymore. Basically the Lebron's of the world subsidize guys like Porter or Monroe who will get overpaid because the teams have the money to do it and they cannot pay superstars more. I do agree with you and understand that scenario..I know Mahinmi is earning what Wall makes! I just think he is the ultimate glue guy for a real good team..hope he doesn't go somewhere where is he expected to average 20 a night. Eitheir way..we all root hard for him and he will be a very well paid former Hoya!!!
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Post by SSHoya on May 15, 2017 20:11:19 GMT -5
Otto with 12 pts and 7 rbs at the half. The "max" player has returned.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 15, 2017 21:05:44 GMT -5
18 and 8 end of third.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 15, 2017 21:57:08 GMT -5
Otto with 20 and 10. Only 2 other Wiz showed up and Wall ran out of gas in the 4th.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 15, 2017 22:02:42 GMT -5
Otto with 20 and 10. Only 2 other Wiz showed up and Wall ran out of gas in the 4th. Wall may have run out of gas, but that did not stop him from chucking. 8-23 tonight. Otto outscored him with fewer than half as many shots.
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on May 15, 2017 22:13:58 GMT -5
Could not have asked for a much better season for Otto. Will he get the max though? I would love to see him stay in DC
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Post by trillesthoya on May 15, 2017 23:01:09 GMT -5
Could not have asked for a much better season for Otto. Will he get the max though? I would love to see him stay in DC Wiz will probably give him the max. They really don't want to mess with that starting lineup outside of Gortat.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 16, 2017 0:01:22 GMT -5
I would have liked to have seen the Wizards vs Cleveland; they played well vs them during the season. It would have given Otto more exposure on the national scene.
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Post by joey0403p on May 16, 2017 0:34:39 GMT -5
Gortat played like garbage he has got to go.
Think brooks kinda lost the game though. He didn't play the bench or didn't play the right people on the bench. Kelly O scored 5 times as many points as the wiz bench.
Glad that Otto played well though.
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Post by SSHoya on May 16, 2017 5:07:11 GMT -5
Gortat played like garbage he has got to go. Think brooks kinda lost the game though. He didn't play the bench or didn't play the right people on the bench. Kelly O scored 5 times as many points as the wiz bench. Glad that Otto played well though. The bench is hit or miss. Mostly miss this year. Need to upgrade for next year. Yeah, Otto with 20 & 10. Good showing for "max" contract. Finishing the season strong in a game 7 can't hurt his contract position.
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