Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 5, 2016 14:46:44 GMT -5
I think Hibbert to Charlotte is the best fit for various reasons.
Bobcats are in contention to be a playoff team in the east. Al Jefferson who Hibbert is replacing has a similar game type of game (back to basket and step out and occasionally knock down mid range 15-17 ft jumper) as Big Roy while being less mobile and defensive minded then Hibbert is. Jefferson was a more confident and aggressive offensive player then Roy was last few years but the Bobcats offense also encouraged Jefferson's low post touches and would at times play through him.
Patrick Ewing is the Associate Head Coach and has always worked primarily with the Bigs like Jefferson can be a great ear for Hibbert. Ewing will have Hibbert's respect and full attention. Ewing also interviewed for various Head Coaching jobs around the association during this current offseason. If Ewing can rebuild Hibbert's confidence, which is Roy's major problem, and get him back to being the highly effective defensive player by playing a system that will allow him to be effective as rim protector, it will be looked at as a major accomplishment and reflect very well on Ewing in his continued attempts to become an NBA head Coach. Let's face facts, the defensive system the Lakers tried to employ last season was not a fit for Hibbert's strengths so it made him look worse then he really is. Having Roy hedge or switch on Picks to defend guards outside the 3 point line is an idiotic concept. NBA guards are too quick and skilled. There maybe only a handful of centers in the league who can try to attempt to do this and even they struggle with defending in space consistently.
If Hibbert gets the opportunity on the floor, which it looks like on paper he will start for the Bobcats and can double his production of last year in points and rebounds and protect the rim in a center friendly system, there will be a 16-20 million dollar annual contract waiting for him next summer somewhere in the league.
One last nugget for consumption, I predict some variation of traditional basketball will return with teams being more reliant on scoring inside instead of the current 3coli craze. Outside of Golden State, the rest of the league can't play that style effectively and consistently. How do you counter the 3coli style? By attacking the rim, offensive glass, and scoring in the low post, for the traditional 3 point plays. A more physical style of play will return and that style of play will increase the value of rim protectors which is currently at an all time low in a 3 ball crazy league.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 5, 2016 21:35:34 GMT -5
Hibbert has definitely seen a significant decline the last couple of seasons. I think there are two things going for him. First, he will be with Patrick Ewing, who can hopefully help him out. Second, he will no longer be sharing the court with a ball-hogging inefficient guard like Kobe Bryant. At this point, it's doubtful that Hibbert will return to his peak form a few years ago, but one would hope he can show improvement on last season and stick around for a few more seasons. Roy actually liked playing with Kobe. The problem with Roy isn't physical. He suffered no injuries nor has he lost a step (in part because he never had one in the first place). No the problem with Roy is mental, and that has been plaguing him for years. Once he loses confidence in himself it becomes noticeable and totally affects his game. And he has not regained confidence in himself which is why LA was the worse place (outside of New York) that you could ever send him. I felt that way as soon as he was shipped out west.
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Post by seaweed on Jul 6, 2016 14:11:07 GMT -5
Big Roy's deal compares favorably to Nene's $2.9mm deal w Les Bullets I think Hibbert to Charlotte is the best fit for various reasons. Bobcats are in contention to be a playoff team in the east. Al Jefferson who Hibbert is replacing has a similar game type of game (back to basket and step out and occasionally knock down mid range 15-17 ft jumper) as Big Roy while being less mobile and defensive minded then Hibbert is. Jefferson was a more confident and aggressive offensive player then Roy was last few years but the Bobcats offense also encouraged Jefferson's low post touches and would at times play through him. Patrick Ewing is the Associate Head Coach and has always worked primarily with the Bigs like Jefferson can be a great ear for Hibbert. Ewing will have Hibbert's respect and full attention. Ewing also interviewed for various Head Coaching jobs around the association during this current offseason. If Ewing can rebuild Hibbert's confidence, which is Roy's major problem, and get him back to being the highly effective defensive player by playing a system that will allow him to be effective as rim protector, it will be looked at as a major accomplishment and reflect very well on Ewing in his continued attempts to become an NBA head Coach. Let's face facts, the defensive system the Lakers tried to employ last season was not a fit for Hibbert's strengths so it made him look worse then he really is. Having Roy hedge or switch on Picks to defend guards outside the 3 point line is an idiotic concept. NBA guards are too quick and skilled. There maybe only a handful of centers in the league who can try to attempt to do this and even they struggle with defending in space consistently. If Hibbert gets the opportunity on the floor, which it looks like on paper he will start for the Bobcats and can double his production of last year in points and rebounds and protect the rim in a center friendly system, there will be a 16-20 million dollar annual contract waiting for him next summer somewhere in the league. One last nugget for consumption, I predict some variation of traditional basketball will return with teams being more reliant on scoring inside instead of the current 3coli craze. Outside of Golden State, the rest of the league can't play that style effectively and consistently. How do you counter the 3coli style? By attacking the rim, offensive glass, and scoring in the low post, for the traditional 3 point plays. A more physical style of play will return and that style of play will increase the value of rim protectors which is currently at an all time low in a 3 ball crazy league.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jul 6, 2016 22:32:45 GMT -5
Roy has never been the same after those strange happenings on the Pacers several years ago.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 7, 2016 12:11:32 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 7, 2016 15:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 8, 2016 0:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by hoya95 on Jul 8, 2016 13:44:40 GMT -5
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Post by vv83 on Jul 8, 2016 14:27:00 GMT -5
Josh's game is on NBA TV tonight at 6pm
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Post by kchoya on Jul 8, 2016 18:51:36 GMT -5
Good for him. I know that lots of posters on here like to trash Joshua, but we should all be rooting for him.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 8, 2016 19:24:41 GMT -5
Why? He let his teammates down and didn't bother to graduate. I wish we never took him and gave Hayes all of his minutes.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 8, 2016 19:27:16 GMT -5
Why? He let his teammates down and didn't bother to graduate. I wish we never took him and gave Hayes all of his minutes. Why? Because you don't have to be a jerk, and all former GU players (and students in general) are worth rooting for in their endeavors after leaving the Hilltop. It's small and petty of you to act otherwise.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 8, 2016 20:57:12 GMT -5
Just my opinion . No need to get irate because I don't see this as a feel good story.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 8, 2016 23:15:50 GMT -5
Good for him. I know that lots of posters on here like to trash Joshua, but we should all be rooting for him. This goes way past basketball, to future health issues, financial stability and lots of other things. I'm hoping he puts it together and keeps it there; sometimes it just takes that right trainer to get things to click, or sometimes it takes the passage of time for maturity to really set it. At least now he can give himself an honest chance to succeed. Best of luck to Josh.
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Post by rockhoya on Jul 9, 2016 2:28:16 GMT -5
Why? He let his teammates down and didn't bother to graduate. I wish we never took him and gave Hayes all of his minutes. You're just a loser
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Post by calhoya on Jul 9, 2016 7:17:55 GMT -5
I regularly trashed Smith, the player, after watching him throughout his college career. I believe that he never showed the necessary commitment to his game or the program at either Georgetown or UCLA. It was particularly frustrating to see after JT III took a chance on him. That said, I cannot help but root for him to finally mature and realize that he is now being given another opportunity to realize his potential and possibly change the course of his future on and off the court.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 9, 2016 13:34:34 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 9, 2016 18:53:59 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Jul 9, 2016 18:59:19 GMT -5
Why? He let his teammates down and didn't bother to graduate. I wish we never took him and gave Hayes all of his minutes. You're just a loser I posted before Josh's senior season that, if he could get his a$s in shape, he was virtually assured to be first round pick, with a guaranteed contract. In other words, lose some weight and you're a millionaire. With all of the opportunities he's been given, maybe he's finally learning his lesson. I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 9, 2016 21:04:28 GMT -5
There is nothing like money to really motivate.
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