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Post by Retro_hoya on Jan 6, 2022 12:14:34 GMT -5
Is this a serious question? Etomic, don't start this with me man. I know that you are a smart man and just playing dumb. The topic is Yurt's rebounding in the NBA and how he is one of the leaders in that category. Now I am going to ask you again, how are you or Yurt is going to get boards if he is playing on the perimeter? Better yet, how is Yurt going to get 15 rebounds a game if he is playing the perimeter? Is that clear enough for you? Okay then answer the question Einstein! Dude chill out. We’re all happy for Yurt. Etomic is right - he doesn’t / didn’t need to be in the post every play… you could run some plays to get Yurt looks at the 3. He doesn’t need to stay out there every single possession and can still play the post the majority of the time but if teams know he can shoot the three / he shows it, then whenever he would pop out to the perimeter he’d open up driving lanes. He can also crash the boards when anyone else’s shot goes up - it’s not that far from the arc to be able to get in and grab rebounds, especially at his size. If aminu can get 10+ rebounds a game at 6’5” and playing as a guard then yurt could absolutely shoot the three from time to time and get rebounds consistently.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:15:11 GMT -5
I think they would have rather had JaMorko on the perimeter shooting 3s. If LeBlanc was down low then you probably would have seen Yurt7 shoot 3s on the perimeter but Josh messed up his life and took down the team with him. Pickett took 109 three's that year, not at all sure what you meant in this post Etomic, can I talk to you about three point shooting vs the more efficient two point basket?
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:16:34 GMT -5
Etomic, don't start this with me man. I know that you are a smart man and just playing dumb. The topic is Yurt's rebounding in the NBA and how he is one of the leaders in that category. Now I am going to ask you again, how are you or Yurt is going to get boards if he is playing on the perimeter? Better yet, how is Yurt going to get 15 rebounds a game if he is playing the perimeter? Is that clear enough for you? Okay then answer the question Einstein! Dude chill out. We’re all happy for Yurt. Etomic is right - he doesn’t / didn’t need to be in the post every play… you could run some plays to get Yurt looks at the 3. He doesn’t need to stay out there every single possession and can still play the post the majority of the time but if teams know he can shoot the three / he shows it, then whenever he would pop out to the perimeter he’d open up driving lanes. He can also crash the boards when anyone else’s shot goes up - it’s not that far from the arc to be able to get in and grab rebounds, especially at his size. If aminu can get 10+ rebounds a game at 6’5” and playing as a guard then yurt could absolutely shoot the three from time to time and get rebounds consistently. Dude, since you know more than Ewing and the Miami Heat coaches. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA?
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 6, 2022 12:19:39 GMT -5
Dude chill out. We’re all happy for Yurt. Etomic is right - he doesn’t / didn’t need to be in the post every play… you could run some plays to get Yurt looks at the 3. He doesn’t need to stay out there every single possession and can still play the post the majority of the time but if teams know he can shoot the three / he shows it, then whenever he would pop out to the perimeter he’d open up driving lanes. He can also crash the boards when anyone else’s shot goes up - it’s not that far from the arc to be able to get in and grab rebounds, especially at his size. If aminu can get 10+ rebounds a game at 6’5” and playing as a guard then yurt could absolutely shoot the three from time to time and get rebounds consistently. Dude, since you know more than Ewing and the Miami Heat coaches. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA? Maybe he is. Could be Randy Whitman.
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Post by Retro_hoya on Jan 6, 2022 12:21:36 GMT -5
Dude chill out. We’re all happy for Yurt. Etomic is right - he doesn’t / didn’t need to be in the post every play… you could run some plays to get Yurt looks at the 3. He doesn’t need to stay out there every single possession and can still play the post the majority of the time but if teams know he can shoot the three / he shows it, then whenever he would pop out to the perimeter he’d open up driving lanes. He can also crash the boards when anyone else’s shot goes up - it’s not that far from the arc to be able to get in and grab rebounds, especially at his size. If aminu can get 10+ rebounds a game at 6’5” and playing as a guard then yurt could absolutely shoot the three from time to time and get rebounds consistently. Dude, since you know more than Ewing and the Miami Heat coaches. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA? I came out of the womb like that… just lucky I guess. I’ve had a few NBA coaching offers but decided I’d rather keep working a 9-5. But in all seriousness - Yurt has a skill that is very valuable and he LIKELY would have been able to show it off more if there hadn’t been the exodus as Yurt himself has said. He’s doing great with the Heat - all I (and everyone else you’re getting irritated with) seems to be saying is that it’s a shame he wasn’t able to show off FULLY what a talented all around player he is. Not everyone is attacking Ewing all the time so lower your hackles. Yes, we know Ewing is a great post player coach. Yes, Yurt is impressive. Not every post that critiques a decision is an attack on Coach.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:24:12 GMT -5
Dude, since you know more than Ewing and the Miami Heat coaches. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA? Maybe he is. Could be Randy Whitman. LOL! How many jobs did Randy get in the NBA? It has been soooo many who got jobs in the NBA and college for that matter who couldn't coach worth a gotdam and never won anything, and I don't see them getting hate like Ewing. Instead they get nothing but praises. I wonder why?
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 6, 2022 12:27:50 GMT -5
Maybe he is. Could be Randy Whitman. LOL! How many jobs did Randy get in the NBA? It has been soooo many who got jobs in the NBA and college for that matter who couldn't coach worth a gotdam and never won anything, and I don't see them getting hate like Ewing. Instead they get nothing but praises. I wonder why? White Privilege Randy Whitman. Most African American coaches can only mess up once (unless you are Doc Rivers) Marin Alsop has said the same thing about women having the right to fail.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:28:50 GMT -5
Dude, since you know more than Ewing and the Miami Heat coaches. Why aren't you coaching in the NBA? I came out of the womb like that… just lucky I guess. I’ve had a few NBA coaching offers but decided I’d rather keep working a 9-5. But in all seriousness - Yurt has a skill that is very valuable and he LIKELY would have been able to show it off more if there hadn’t been the exodus as Yurt himself has said. He’s doing great with the Heat - all I (and everyone else you’re getting irritated with) seems to be saying is that it’s a shame he wasn’t able to show off FULLY what a talented all around player he is. Not everyone is attacking Ewing all the time so lower your hackles. Yes, we know Ewing is a great post player coach. Yes, Yurt is impressive. Not every post that critiques a decision is an attack on Coach. Dude, you don't get to tell me what to do. I do what I want just like they do what they want. People are constantly responding to a random comment that I make about the subject of the feed with an attack on Ewing so what the hell are you talking about?
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 6, 2022 12:32:18 GMT -5
LOL! How many jobs did Randy get in the NBA? It has been soooo many who got jobs in the NBA and college for that matter who couldn't coach worth a gotdam and never won anything, and I don't see them getting hate like Ewing. Instead they get nothing but praises. I wonder why? White Privilege Randy Whitman. Most African American coaches can only mess up once (unless you are Doc Rivers) Marin Alsop has said the same thing about women having the right to fail. This has been proven false on multiple occasions - Leonard Hamilton, Perry Clark, Dave Leitao, Anthony Grant, Mike Anderson - how many more examples do you want? But keep telling yourselves that the people that think Ewing's a mediocre coach is only because they're racist, not because they actually look at his record.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:32:26 GMT -5
LOL! How many jobs did Randy get in the NBA? It has been soooo many who got jobs in the NBA and college for that matter who couldn't coach worth a gotdam and never won anything, and I don't see them getting hate like Ewing. Instead they get nothing but praises. I wonder why? White Privilege Randy Whitman. Most African American coaches can only mess up once (unless you are Doc Rivers) Marin Alsop has said the same thing about women having the right to fail. Exactly! They think we are going to let them talk about Ewing like that, they got another thing coming! I can name so many white coaches NBA, NFL and collegiate who kept getting jobs despite the fact that they were poor in performance. They didn't have mass exodus like Ewing to deal with. They didn't have a poor roster coming into the job like Ewing had yet they got praised and kept getting jobs when they either left a previous job or they were fired from a previous job.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:36:41 GMT -5
Isn't Hoyaboya also a Ed Cooley hater or am I wrong about that? Somebody in here is an Ed Cooley hater too. Yet, they didn't hate on dude that coached Marquette. What was his name Wojenhowski or something like that?
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 6, 2022 12:38:19 GMT -5
White Privilege Randy Whitman. Most African American coaches can only mess up once (unless you are Doc Rivers) Marin Alsop has said the same thing about women having the right to fail. Exactly! They think we are going to let them talk about Ewing like that, they got another thing coming! I can name so many white coaches NBA, NFL and collegiate who kept getting jobs despite the fact that they were poor in performance. They didn't have mass exodus like Ewing to deal with. They didn't have a poor roster coming into the job like Ewing had yet they got praised and kept getting jobs when they either left a previous job or they were fired from a previous job. "You are what your record says you are" - Bill Parcells Patrick Ewing is 68-64 (.515%) in his 5th year as head coach of the Georgetown Hoyas. He's 26-44 (.371) in a watered down Big East. His team currently is ranked in the 200s in the RPI. He's not a good coach. It has nothing to do with his race.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2022 12:40:50 GMT -5
Pickett took 109 three's that year, not at all sure what you meant in this post Etomic, can I talk to you about three point shooting vs the more efficient two point basket? I don't think this is the thread for that discussion Taf..
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Post by Retro_hoya on Jan 6, 2022 12:41:25 GMT -5
I came out of the womb like that… just lucky I guess. I’ve had a few NBA coaching offers but decided I’d rather keep working a 9-5. But in all seriousness - Yurt has a skill that is very valuable and he LIKELY would have been able to show it off more if there hadn’t been the exodus as Yurt himself has said. He’s doing great with the Heat - all I (and everyone else you’re getting irritated with) seems to be saying is that it’s a shame he wasn’t able to show off FULLY what a talented all around player he is. Not everyone is attacking Ewing all the time so lower your hackles. Yes, we know Ewing is a great post player coach. Yes, Yurt is impressive. Not every post that critiques a decision is an attack on Coach. Dude, you don't get to tell me what to do. I do what I want just like they do what they want. People are constantly responding to a random comment that I make about the subject of the feed with an attack on Ewing so what the hell are you talking about? Honestly didn’t mean to start anything or be disrespectful so I apologize if I offended you - I was trying to be like a ref breaking up an escalating board fight before a malice at the palace type situation. Of course you can do whatever you want as can everyone else, I’m just encouraging people to take a breath when things start to / do get heated. If you review my posts you’ll see I’m a pretty positive guy and don’t tend to step on toes. But back to Yurt as no one wants to read these back and forths- happy for him! Can someone remind me of his contract status? 2yr / minimum? If he keeps it up he should play his way into a major pay day and, for his current contract, he’s a steal! (Deleted old one to repost with functional quotes)
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:44:48 GMT -5
Hoyanoob, I appreciate that you are trying to referee. I sincerely do but referees don't scold people and referees throw flags when their is an infraction on the play. If you want to referee (and again I appreciate that sentiment), please call the flag on the right plays. When somebody is constantly responding to someone else's comments, that has nothing to do with Ewing, with an attack on Ewing, please throw the flag on them. If you don't, then you give me no choice but have to respond to their constant heckling.
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 12:45:51 GMT -5
Etomic, can I talk to you about three point shooting vs the more efficient two point basket? I don't think this is the thread for that discussion Taf.. Should we create a new thread? I would love to have this debate with you (three points vs two points).
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2022 13:04:35 GMT -5
I don't think this is the thread for that discussion Taf.. Should we create a new thread? I would love to have this debate with you (three points vs two points). Fine by me. I take this to mean our discussion about Yurt is over?
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 13:21:05 GMT -5
Should we create a new thread? I would love to have this debate with you (three points vs two points). Fine by me. I take this to mean our discussion about Yurt is over? Cool, I mean if you want to talk about Yurt, that's fine but I already know what you want as far as Yurt goes in terms of his career. You want him to be free to go outside and shoot the three point shot, correct? If so, I agree with you because everyone knows that he can shoot and hit the three. My only thing is this is not what the Heat brass is asking Yurt to do right now. However, I am more than sure that he will be asked to step out and knock down the three as his career progresses. It just that at this point in his career, it isn't necessary for Yurt to be hurling up threes as Yurt is not a key player but rather a role player who is being asked to do a few number of things and three point shooting is not one of them.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 6, 2022 14:00:43 GMT -5
Fine by me. I take this to mean our discussion about Yurt is over? Cool, I mean if you want to talk about Yurt, that's fine but I already know what you want as far as Yurt goes in terms of his career. You want him to be free to go outside and shoot the three point shot, correct? If so, I agree with you because everyone knows that he can shoot and hit the three. My only thing is this is not what the Heat brass is asking Yurt to do right now. However, I am more than sure that he will be asked to step out and knock down the three as his career progresses. It just that at this point in his career, it isn't necessary for Yurt to be hurling up threes as Yurt is not a key player but rather a role player who is being asked to do a few number of things and three point shooting is not one of them. So you acknowledge that Y7 can hit the three but you’re ok with the fact he wasn’t allowed to do it @ Gtown? That’s what I don’t understand but it is what it is… before you or the Professor say it, I’m not talking about him jacking up 100+ shots from 3 at all
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 6, 2022 14:26:37 GMT -5
Cool, I mean if you want to talk about Yurt, that's fine but I already know what you want as far as Yurt goes in terms of his career. You want him to be free to go outside and shoot the three point shot, correct? If so, I agree with you because everyone knows that he can shoot and hit the three. My only thing is this is not what the Heat brass is asking Yurt to do right now. However, I am more than sure that he will be asked to step out and knock down the three as his career progresses. It just that at this point in his career, it isn't necessary for Yurt to be hurling up threes as Yurt is not a key player but rather a role player who is being asked to do a few number of things and three point shooting is not one of them. So you acknowledge that Y7 can hit the three but you’re ok with the fact he wasn’t allowed to do it @ Gtown?That’s what I don’t understand but it is what it is… before you or the Professor say it, I’m not talking about him jacking up 100+ shots from 3 at all Everyone knows that he can hit the three Etomic. They knew that since the days of NC State. Well at least I heard that he was hitting threes at NC State. However, the point was that we needed him to play on the inside and not play on the perimeter shooting threes. It is the same thing in Miami. Hell, truth be told, Ewing didn't want Govan shooting threes either but Govan had already been here a few years before Ewing and he was already jacking up threes. I'm not saying that Yurt should have been just a post player exclusively. What I am saying is the player has got to do what the coaches ask them to do. Ewing didn't want Yurt to feel that he had the luxury to shoot threes whenever he felt like it and I am almost certain that he would have allowed Yurt to shoot some threes during his time at Georgetown eventually but unfortunately, the circumstances didn't allow Ewing to even explore the possibilities.
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