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Post by kchoya on Oct 7, 2011 9:00:48 GMT -5
She sets up a very convenient vicious circle. Let's increase the power and reach of the government, and once the government is more involved in our daily lives, we can then say that each individuals owes more and more of his or her success to the government, and then the government can take more of each individual's wealth.
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Post by Boz on Oct 7, 2011 9:27:54 GMT -5
I would just like to add that I too am grateful that Elizabeth Warren did not take her clothes off to pay for college.
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Post by TC on Oct 7, 2011 11:18:40 GMT -5
I would just like to add that I too am grateful that Elizabeth Warren did not take her clothes off to pay for college. ;D That was an absolutely idiotic thing for Brown to have said, and it is getting a lot of play here. And let's be honest about the double-standard - if Elizabeth Warren had taken off her clothes in college, she would have no chance of being nominated or elected.
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Post by Boz on Oct 7, 2011 11:35:38 GMT -5
Poppycock.
When even Mika Bryzynski says it's more or less harmless and just joking around -- and this is a woman who will get offended at the drop of a hat -- I think people are making much ado about very little.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 8, 2011 7:36:51 GMT -5
IMO, this is much ado about nothing on both sides. I can only hope that kc's original post was designed to generate discussion about (take a shot at) Warren, which it certainly has done, and is in keeping with his posting style. I hope that even he realizes that there is nothing "scary" in that quote, though he does up the ante with this gem: What? The woman was just talking, and she's only human. Could it have been phrased just a little differently? Of course, but it's conversation, not a written document. No proofreading and spell check. She's just a person. Brown probably should have kept the joke about her to himself and those close to him, but he isn't perfect either. Though he's a senator, he's just a person, too. How many times have all of us cracked somewhat derogatory jokes at the expense of others? Answer? Lots. Why? Because they're funny! IMO, that one does not cross the line. Hell, I look forward to Boz doing it a few times a day, even if it's at my expense! ;D Nice job at generating discussion, kc. Now, diss-cuss on.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 8, 2011 10:58:47 GMT -5
IMO, this is much ado about nothing on both sides. I can only hope that kc's original post was designed to generate discussion about (take a shot at) Warren, which it certainly has done, and is in keeping with his posting style. I hope that even he realizes that there is nothing "scary" in that quote, though he does up the ante with this gem: What? The woman was just talking, and she's only human. Could it have been phrased just a little differently? Of course, but it's conversation, not a written document. No proofreading and spell check. She's just a person. Brown probably should have kept the joke about her to himself and those close to him, but he isn't perfect either. Though he's a senator, he's just a person, too. How many times have all of us cracked somewhat derogatory jokes at the expense of others? Answer? Lots. Why? Because they're funny! IMO, that one does not cross the line. Hell, I look forward to Boz doing it a few times a day, even if it's at my expense! ;D Nice job at generating discussion, kc. Now, diss-cuss on. She was just talking? Seriously? She's running for the Senate and we're supposed to dismiss what she said because "she was just talking?" Maybe she should carry a teleprompter around with her everywhere. But I don't think anyone would stoop that low.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 8, 2011 11:23:11 GMT -5
Just talking in the sense of how her statement was phrased. The essence of what she said is on point, IMO.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 28, 2011 10:07:18 GMT -5
She might make a better national candidate, considering where her support is coming from: "Nearly 70 percent of the $3.14 million the Harvard Law professor raised in the last quarter came from out of state, according to figures provided by the campaign." articles.boston.com/2011-10-20/news/30302718_1_eric-schneiderman-campaign-fund-campaign-filingsHere's Brown's info: "Brown raised $1.58 million in the July, August, and September quarter, bringing his campaign fund to $10.5 million, according to filings. His campaign says it received 7,135 donations last quarter, most of which - 5,498 - were from Massachusetts"
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Post by TC on Oct 28, 2011 11:09:55 GMT -5
She might make a better national candidate, considering where her support is coming from: "Nearly 70 percent of the $3.14 million the Harvard Law professor raised in the last quarter came from out of state, according to figures provided by the campaign." So in other words, her contributions are primarily from out-of-state, just like Scott Brown's were in 2010?
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Post by Boz on Oct 28, 2011 11:15:29 GMT -5
You gotta' love Dana Milbank and his kneepads/pom-poms.
Since she claims to be the inspiration for OWS, I wonder if any reporters will ask her if she endorses the violence, drug use and alleged sexual assaults at some of those demonstrations.
You know, how every candidate that the Tea Party was behind was asked to answer for that movement's most extreme elements.
Nah, probly not.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 28, 2011 11:18:32 GMT -5
She might make a better national candidate, considering where her support is coming from: "Nearly 70 percent of the $3.14 million the Harvard Law professor raised in the last quarter came from out of state, according to figures provided by the campaign." So in other words, her contributions are primarily from out-of-state, just like Scott Brown's were in 2010? Got a link for this? I'm finding articles about him getting outside help near the end of his campaign but I can't find an article that does a breakdown like the article I cited.
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Post by Buckets on Oct 28, 2011 11:25:30 GMT -5
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Post by TC on Oct 28, 2011 11:30:23 GMT -5
Got a link for this? I'm finding articles about him getting outside help near the end of his campaign but I can't find an article that does a breakdown like the article I cited. www.datadrivenconsulting.com/2010/07/scott-browns-funding/I also don't think she'd be a great national candidate.
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Post by TBird41 on Oct 28, 2011 11:38:57 GMT -5
Thanks TC & Freemoney.
And yeah, that was a joke about her as a national candidate. I also wonder how the timing worked out on the funding and whether it means / portends anything. (i.e. did Brown's money come in at that ratio the entire campaign, was the ratio lower during the start of his campaign w/ national money coming in when it looked like he might actually win, etc).
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Post by TC on Oct 28, 2011 11:47:22 GMT -5
Thanks And yeah, that was a joke about her as a national candidate. I also wonder how the timing worked out on the funding and whether it means / portends anything. (i.e. did Brown's money come in at that ratio the entire campaign, was the ratio lower during the start of his campaign w/ national money coming in when it looked like he might actually win, etc). He came on so fast and really out of nowhere. My guess would be that the national money was a factor all along. I don't think that's a phenomena specific to Scott Brown though - I bet if you look at contested races around the country - Al Franken vs. Norm Coleman, Murkowski vs. that guy with the beard, Bennet vs Buck - all of them probably feature primarily national funding. Alvin Greene might be the exception to that rule.
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Post by WilsonBlvdHoya on Nov 19, 2011 17:18:24 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Nov 19, 2011 18:57:01 GMT -5
OMG, the Times writes a glowing hagiography of a liberal pol. Stop the presses.
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