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Post by hoya73 on Aug 8, 2011 18:21:06 GMT -5
DFW....So when Arkansas was pressing their way to 2 straight National title games who was there closer in the middle? If JT3 does not change and adjust to his talent then he will fail. Bottom line. He is not stupid so he will adjust. Corliss Williamson |
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Post by SaxaCD on Aug 8, 2011 19:03:55 GMT -5
One thing that shouldn't be overlooked is the fact that jt3 was a versatile, passing forward himself, and it seems to me he is more in his element with teams led by the same. T
Last year's team featured guards as its best players, so he adopted a style more suited to them. Now, however he has more length to utilize, and I think we will see both more trapping on D and more of the high-flying version of the Georgetown offense as backdoor get above the rim finishes. Help D is going to make or break the team, I think, with no legit defensive presence at center.
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Post by idhoya on Aug 8, 2011 19:24:59 GMT -5
Big Nasty wasn't necessarily their closer nor was he in the middle. He was their enforcer and PF. Darnell Robinson was their center. Thing is, they had so many pieces and played so well together, it didn't matter. Williamson, Thurman (wasn't he the mvp of their title team?), Corey Beck, Todd Day, Oliver Miller. I mean loaded! Any one of those cats could take over. They were almost as dominant as the '90 UNLV squad and actually were deeper.
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Post by hoya73 on Aug 8, 2011 21:05:06 GMT -5
Big Nasty was, in fact, named MVP of the title game. but you're right about having a lot of pieces.
To the point of pressing, if we had (if we have?) a presence in the paint like Williamson, or even Robinson, a press would be that much more effective. let's hope someone can step up.
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 8, 2011 21:12:37 GMT -5
Or Noel...
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on Aug 8, 2011 22:00:24 GMT -5
From your mouth to God's ear.
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Post by idhoya on Aug 9, 2011 8:23:30 GMT -5
Big Nasty was ridiculous in college and by today's standards "undersized". Kid shoulda been a Hoya. Anyway, Henry has the length and size, but not the game or mentality to be an intimidator in the middle.
Defintitely need a defensive stopper in the middle. I still like Upshaw for his size and potential.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 9, 2011 8:40:33 GMT -5
LOL.....Corliss was their center? How old are you sir? DFW....So when Arkansas was pressing their way to 2 straight National title games who was there closer in the middle? If JT3 does not change and adjust to his talent then he will fail. Bottom line. He is not stupid so he will adjust. Corliss Williamson |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 9, 2011 8:41:58 GMT -5
Your mixing the teams up....Corliss and Scottie never played with Miller, Day or Mayberry.
quote author=idhoya board=general thread=24345 post=447247 time=1312849499]Big Nasty wasn't necessarily their closer nor was he in the middle. He was their enforcer and PF. Darnell Robinson was their center. Thing is, they had so many pieces and played so well together, it didn't matter. Williamson, Thurman (wasn't he the mvp of their title team?), Corey Beck, Todd Day, Oliver Miller. I mean loaded! Any one of those cats could take over. They were almost as dominant as the '90 UNLV squad and actually were deeper. [/quote]
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 9, 2011 9:26:01 GMT -5
Yeah, that team had Corey Beck and Clint McDaniel along with Thurman and Corliss.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 9, 2011 9:27:10 GMT -5
Clint McDaniel the fighter! Beck...Thurman, Lee Wilson, Tank Robinson, Al Dillard, Big Nasty, the fat kid with the jumpshot Yeah, that team had Corey Beck and Clint McDaniel along with Thurman and Corliss. |
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Post by RDF on Aug 9, 2011 15:38:00 GMT -5
Clint McDaniel the fighter! Beck...Thurman, Lee Wilson, Tank Robinson, Al Dillard, Big Nasty, the fat kid with the jumpshot Yeah, that team had Corey Beck and Clint McDaniel along with Thurman and Corliss. Dwight Stewart. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 10, 2011 9:59:16 GMT -5
Dwight Stewart #15!
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Post by hoya73 on Aug 10, 2011 20:44:17 GMT -5
LOL.....Corliss was their center? How old are you sir? Never said he was their center. What I implied was that he provided a defensive presence in the paint that allowed the Razorbacks' press to be effective. As far as my age,let's just say that I'm old enough to know that referring to oneself in the third person, as you so often have done, makes one look ridiculous. Oh, and, Get Off My Lawn. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 10, 2011 20:58:39 GMT -5
This thread is in danger of migrating to Pro & College sports, where all good Razorback discussion belongs.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 11, 2011 8:32:54 GMT -5
Quit while you are losing. Corliss was part of the press as he was on the floor trapping. Tank and Big Lee Wilson were the ones who guarded the basket. You tried and you were wrong take a loss and K.I.M.
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Never said he was their center. What I implied was that he provided a defensive presence in the paint that allowed the Razorbacks' press to be effective. As far as my age,let's just say that I'm old enough to know that referring to oneself in the third person, as you so often have done, makes one look ridiculous. Oh, and, Get Off My Lawn.[/quote]
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Aug 11, 2011 10:27:18 GMT -5
5 pages about Gtown and 1 page about something else and you move the thread? Horse Ish move by you.
Posts are moved all the time when the subject matter veers off topic.--Admin
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Post by hifigator on Aug 11, 2011 13:51:54 GMT -5
And I thought you only took such drastic measures when I was involved in the discussion somehow.
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 11, 2011 20:08:13 GMT -5
That's right, hifi, it's all about you.  |
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Post by hifigator on Aug 15, 2011 12:50:12 GMT -5
jeesh ... [sarcasm] I am God's gift to message boards. [/sarcasm]
Does that make it easier for you?
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