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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 26, 2011 18:06:09 GMT -5
I never said that Cal doesnt deserve the chance to coach at UK...but now that you brought it up:
Great question TBird...Im sure you're next question would be, why does Broadus deserve to Coach at Georgetown. (If it wasn't, oh well)
My personal theory with violations (in ANY industry, not just college athletics) is that the person should be required to start from square one or take a step back. Since we are talking about CBB, I will stick with the Coach analogy. If a Head Coach's team is found of infractions, I feel like they should be required to prove themselves again, legitimately thru the process of coaching, before they have the opportunity to become a head coach. The real reason why I have always had an issue with Cal (moreso then many other Coaches that have been in bad places) is because it always seemed like he was "promoted" for putting a school on probation.
Also, specifically for UK, it is one of the strongest, proudest, oldest programs in America and just as I want my Hoyas to stay honorable, I would like the leaders of the sport I love to show a similar commitment to fair play.
Finally, it should not be the administration at a school's responsibility to monitor to make sure nothing goes wrong. The administration should be running the school and hiring a person that they can trust to run their program in a way that they want. If you are a manager at some type of firm, are you hiring someone you need to monitor constantly, or someone that you can point in the right direction and you know they will do it correctly and to the best of their ability.
Anyway, I'm not in charge of a University, nor have I ever spoken to Cal or know anything in depth about his previous career...these are just some of my personal views.
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 26, 2011 20:48:01 GMT -5
I was just pointing out that you can find many similar arguments to those you found so "funny" over on the Main Board.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 27, 2011 1:01:38 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 27, 2011 11:48:58 GMT -5
UK fans = myopians. They'll keep defending Calishadi until the shad hits the fan.
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Post by guru on Jun 27, 2011 12:00:19 GMT -5
So we give BTB like 10 pages worth of grief about the Jive Five nickname, yet this equally strained "Calishadi" gets to stick
#hmminteresting #patentlyunfair #isitnovemberyet
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Post by Filo on Jun 27, 2011 12:13:03 GMT -5
So we give BTB like 10 pages worth of grief about the Jive Five nickname, yet this equally strained "Calishadi" gets to stick #hmminteresting #patentlyunfair #isitnovemberyet Let's not engage in lack-of-creativity relativism, please.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 27, 2011 13:15:28 GMT -5
So we give BTB like 10 pages worth of grief about the Jive Five nickname, yet this equally strained "Calishadi" gets to stick #hmminteresting #patentlyunfair #isitnovemberyet Can we declare all "slightly change the name to something derogatory" "jokes" awful? I'm willing to give up the very few I like ("Connvicticut" is my favorite) for never having to see/hear the rest of them ever again.
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Post by Boz on Jun 27, 2011 13:43:11 GMT -5
I think "SUcks" should still be allowed.
Other than that, I'm all for it.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jun 27, 2011 14:34:50 GMT -5
VanillaNova and/or VillaNoFun must stay.
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 27, 2011 23:34:20 GMT -5
I think "SUcks" should still be allowed. Other than that, I'm all for it. VanillaNova and/or VillaNoFun must stay. You've got to give up something to get something. And once you try and keep one, someone else wants to keep another awful one. Like these 'Nova ones. (You're school is soooo much whiter then ours and so much less fun then ours--yeah, great insults coming from a school like Georgetown which is sooooo diverse and sooooo well known for its diversity. Are we going to make fun of their football team or their on campus arena next?) Basically, I think SF's point is a good one. The "slightly change the name to something derogatory" "jokes" are awful
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jun 28, 2011 7:45:26 GMT -5
Can we keep UMCP and WG? I believe SUcks is mandatory, and though he's not a college, =Bum just fits soooo well.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jun 28, 2011 7:55:34 GMT -5
VanillaNova and/or VillaNoFun must stay. You've got to give up something to get something. And once you try and keep one, someone else wants to keep another awful one. Like these 'Nova ones. (You're school is soooo much whiter then ours and so much less fun then ours--yeah, great insults coming from a school like Georgetown which is sooooo diverse and sooooo well known for its diversity. Are we going to make fun of their football team or their on campus arena next?) Basically, I think SF's point is a good one. The "slightly change the name to something derogatory" "jokes" are awful Well, I need something derogatory to call them because my usual descriptive terms for their university/students would be "deleted". SUcks works for Cuse but other schools deserve derision as well.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jun 28, 2011 8:24:53 GMT -5
You've got to give up something to get something. And once you try and keep one, someone else wants to keep another awful one. Like these 'Nova ones. (You're school is soooo much whiter then ours and so much less fun then ours--yeah, great insults coming from a school like Georgetown which is sooooo diverse and sooooo well known for its diversity. Are we going to make fun of their football team or their on campus arena next?) According to a 2008 factsheet from Georgetown (and another contemporary speech from Charles Deacon), nearly 30% of GU undergrads claim an ethnic minority background. Nova is in the single digits. And for many years, I remember Georgetown trailed only Stanford among national universities in Black Enterprise's rankings of the top colleges for African-Americans. If you think Georgetown was "bad" in terms of racial/ethnic diversity, I think you'd be very surprised at most other schools. Can we keep UMCP and WG? I believe SUcks is mandatory, and though he's not a college, =Bum just fits soooo well. UMCP is the actual designation to identify that "college" campus. Perhaps you meant to denigrate the Harvard of College Park? More to the point, Calamari is a much better slur than Calishadi, you know, because he's so squidlike.
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Post by TC on Jun 28, 2011 8:43:20 GMT -5
Everyone here should embrace the spirit of Christian forgiveness and give Calipari another chance.
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Post by Boz on Jun 28, 2011 8:55:01 GMT -5
Everyone here should embrace the spirit of Christian forgiveness and give Calipari another chance. He already had one. Jesus never said anything about a third cheek.
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Post by TC on Jun 28, 2011 9:28:57 GMT -5
He already had one. Jesus never said anything about a third cheek. "What I think is interesting is all the moral outrage at [Calipari], but not at the players for breaking the law or the Serbian government for hustling a violent criminal out of the country to avoid the US Justice System." ^^^ my favorite from the Broadus thread
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 28, 2011 11:59:45 GMT -5
Can we keep UMCP and WG? I believe SUcks is mandatory, and though he's not a college, =Bum just fits soooo well. These are allowable to me. It's not a stupid off-pun, or whatever that is. And the WG story is priceless.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 10, 2011 12:21:23 GMT -5
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