DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 2, 2011 12:54:03 GMT -5
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Mar 2, 2011 14:15:43 GMT -5
I wonder if the coach even considered how this could affect their seeding? I'm not talking about not suspending him because it hurts the team, but rather that if he suspends him for the season, rather than just benching him and making no comment, it could factor into their spot in the big dance. If he says that he is suspended indefinitely for undisclosed reasons, then there could be an underlying assumption that he would be reinstated after the conference tourney. Nobody would have to know ...
I'm just sayin'
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 2, 2011 16:10:26 GMT -5
BYU doesn't do things that way. Pretty sure this is University policy and the school will willingly sacrifice the seed for following their rules/getting credit for following their rules.
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Post by hifigator on Mar 2, 2011 17:04:22 GMT -5
I know SF, and I wasn't suggesting ignoring any behavior issue anyway. My point was that he could still be suspended for the season, but just announce it as an indefinite suspension. And let the player know that. The idea wasn't to deceive him at all, rather to discipline him. But with my suggestion, it could punish him without punishing the rest of the team as much.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 2, 2011 17:35:52 GMT -5
Word is he got caught with a venti nonfat caramel latte with extra whipped cream from Starbucks. ;D
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Post by Buckets on Mar 2, 2011 17:42:39 GMT -5
How's he supposed to feed his kid if he can't show off his game for scouts?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 2, 2011 20:27:17 GMT -5
I guess my point is that I think BYU leadership likes the press they get from sacrificing the seed more than not sacrificing the seed.
And I'm not saying that's wrong.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 2, 2011 21:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Mar 2, 2011 23:02:19 GMT -5
I respect his honesty and I respect the school's policy (as harsh as it may seem to everyone else), but this is what I don't get:
1) It sounds like an honor code violation results in dismissal from the school
2) He admitted to violating the honor code
3) He is only kicked off the basketball team, but remains in school while BYU "investigates." How are they investigating something he admitted to? Its not like he had drugs and they are investigating as to where they came from. Is getting kicked off the team going to be his only punishment?
Also, BYU is not doing so well right now in their game
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 3, 2011 3:26:34 GMT -5
Wow. I did not realize that was part of their policy.
Side note, but how the hell do they recruit with that as their policy? Are there really enough athletic Mormons out there that are OK with the no sex/alcohol/caffeine?
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Mar 3, 2011 9:10:44 GMT -5
Wow. I did not realize that was part of their policy. Side note, but how the hell do they recruit with that as their policy? Are there really enough athletic Mormons out there that are OK with the no sex/alcohol/caffeine? The sex part is also part of ND's policy, but you don't see any ND football players getting kicked off the team for that. I would even gander to say most ND football players don't have a clue in the world that the policy is in existence |
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 3, 2011 11:16:00 GMT -5
You don't see ND football players getting kicked off the team for rape. The rules really don't apply for those guys.
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Post by FormerHoya on Mar 3, 2011 11:24:36 GMT -5
I wonder if he would have been dismissed were he not marked by god as evil?
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 3, 2011 11:27:00 GMT -5
It is refreshing to see a college have standards of conduct and stick by them, no matter the cost.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 3, 2011 13:46:22 GMT -5
Agree with Ed. The punishment may not fit the "crime," but all the students there are well aware of the code, so it's not like anyone is being singled out.
What I wonder is, how the heck did Jim McMahon wind up at BYU and manage to survive there?
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Post by tashoya on Mar 3, 2011 15:27:25 GMT -5
I'd have been kicked out my first day of freshman orientation if those rules were universally held. On the upside, I could have avoided Professor Fairfield entirely.... She'd have preferred that as well.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 3, 2011 15:33:50 GMT -5
I'd have been kicked out my first day of freshman orientation if those rules were universally held. On the upside, I could have avoided Professor Fairfield entirely.... She'd have preferred that as well. TVBP. |
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Post by bmartin on Mar 3, 2011 16:47:51 GMT -5
I wonder how uniformly this is enforced. Is it don't ask don't tell or Spanish Inquisition? I don't believe that 95 % of BYU students abstain from everything.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 3, 2011 18:28:05 GMT -5
It is refreshing to see a college have standards of conduct and stick by them, no matter the cost. Yeah, it's Real refreshing when 90% of the student there also break the honor code but don't get punished like this guy.  The LDS Church is simply trying to make an example out of this kid. It's obviously working. |
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 4, 2011 14:41:30 GMT -5
It is refreshing to see a college have standards of conduct and stick by them, no matter the cost. Yeah, it's Real refreshing when 90% of the student there also break the honor code but don't get punished like this guy. The LDS Church is simply trying to make an example out of this kid. It's obviously working. Tell me you have data to back up your 90% figure. |
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