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Post by hoya21 on Feb 27, 2011 15:04:31 GMT -5
If we beat Cincy, we are guaranteed to be in the top 8 so we play on Wed..
By my math, we can't slip below the number 8 position as West Virginia still has to play UConn, and Nova has two really tough games left..
Agreed?
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Post by Madgesdiq on Feb 27, 2011 16:04:04 GMT -5
I think so. I think a 7 seed is most likely at this point, meaning Session 4.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 27, 2011 17:02:22 GMT -5
If we lose next weekend, any way we stay in top 8?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2011 18:04:31 GMT -5
If we lose next weekend, any way we stay in top 8? Ideally, we want any team that we can't catch or can't catch us to win against teams in the middle of the pack. We also would want to avoid Cinci in any mini-conference in order to have a shot at the tiebreakers. Therefore: -G'town (10-7): L at Cinci --> 10-8 -UConn (9-7): L at WVU, L vs. ND --> 9-9 -WVU (9-7): W vs. UConn, L vs. Lville --> 10-8 -Cinci (9-7): W at Marquette, W. vs. G'town --> 11-7 -Nova (9-7): L at ND, L at Pitt --> 9-9 -Marquette (9-7): L vs. Cinci, L at SHU --> 9-9 In this scenario, Cinci would be the 6, WVU the 7, and GU the 8. But it would take a lot of help, and help we're not likely to get. |
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 27, 2011 18:13:51 GMT -5
After looking further at it: basically the above scenario isn't as hard as one would seem. The crucial game is Cinci-Marquette; we want Cinci to finish ahead of us as to not kill our tiebreakers, so they'd have to win that game. After that, it really doesn't matter what happens to Marquette vs. SHU because we have the tiebreaker over them.
I don't see Nova doing better than a split the rest of the way, and we have the tiebreaker over them.
WVU plays UConn, so at most only one of those teams will finish ahead of us as long as the loser of that game also loses their last game to finish behind us.
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 28, 2011 9:18:56 GMT -5
Yeah, you hate to say it, but this is the grouping we are in the most trouble against. We lost to 3 of these teams, and possibly 4 times. If we lose on Saturday, I think we are out of the top 8. The only team that might lose twice is the one we probably care about the least - Nova. I am not sure it really matters. If we cant win any of our last 3, then maybe playing DePaul on Tuesday isnt the worst thing in the world. Unbelievable as it sounds, Marquette might have the magic of lucking into a high seed again this year.
I guess our best hope is that Marquette loses once, Nova loses at least once, and/or WVU loses twice.
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Post by gunny on Feb 28, 2011 10:06:09 GMT -5
I do not see WVU losing twice at home. They are playing tough teams, but I do not see that happening. Their only home loss this year was to Pitt and St. John's. I think Nova loses twice with two tough road games. Gotta root for Notre Dame (hate saying that) to beat UConn on the road on Saturday. Think we have to root for Marquette to beat Cincy so we hold the tie break over them.
Of course all of this does not matter if we lose on Saturday.
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 28, 2011 10:13:15 GMT -5
But, nothing matters if we win on Saturday??? If we win on Saturday, we are guaranteed a top 8 spot. This ONLY matters if we lose on Saturday. Unless you are just saying what I said in that if we lose, who really cares?
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Post by gunny on Feb 28, 2011 10:19:39 GMT -5
If we win Saturday then we will likely be a 6 or 7 because either UConn or WVU are guaranteed a loss when they play each other. Cincy will have at least 8 losses. Even if Nova wins out which is highly unlikely we have them on the tiebreaker.
Just win Saturday!
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Feb 28, 2011 10:37:55 GMT -5
Win Saturday. Top 8 finish & first round bye. That's what matters most right now.
That and Chris's hand healing as soon as possible.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 28, 2011 11:54:00 GMT -5
i cant add but i kinda think we need to win on sat to be in the top eight we got NO HELP YESTERDAY all the ones we wanted to lose won so didnt help us at all MUST WIN maybe we can sneak in the eight with some other senario but not think its likely win and me thinks top eight G HOYAS BEAT CINNCY MUST WIN.  |
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 28, 2011 11:55:34 GMT -5
BIG TROUBLE IF TIED WITH UCONN OR WEST VA WE LOST OUR ONLY GAME TO THEM SO BAD NEWS if TIED with them yup..... as i said must win to be in top eight .. go hoyas  |
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Post by wrestlemania on Feb 28, 2011 14:05:29 GMT -5
If we lose next weekend, any way we stay in top 8? Ideally, we want any team that we can't catch or can't catch us to win against teams in the middle of the pack. We also would want to avoid Cinci in any mini-conference in order to have a shot at the tiebreakers. Therefore: -G'town (10-7): L at Cinci --> 10-8 -UConn (9-7): L at WVU, L vs. ND --> 9-9 -WVU (9-7): W vs. UConn, L vs. Lville --> 10-8 -Cinci (9-7): W at Marquette, W. vs. G'town --> 11-7 -Nova (9-7): L at ND, L at Pitt --> 9-9 -Marquette (9-7): L vs. Cinci, L at SHU --> 9-9 In this scenario, Cinci would be the 6, WVU the 7, and GU the 8. But it would take a lot of help, and help we're not likely to get. How do you guys do this? Anyone want to take a crack at my tax return? |
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 1, 2011 10:31:36 GMT -5
Even with Villanova losing yesterday, we can still finish in 11th place with a 10-8 record, which is just insane. I think that would have to be a 6 way tie at 10-8, though, which is pretty unlikely...though not improbable.
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Post by roysgirlfriend on Mar 1, 2011 10:36:48 GMT -5
Is it wrong to hope we are #6 or #7 so we play at night on Wed. and Thurs. and I can go to the games? Is there anyway we can stay #6 with a win?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 1, 2011 10:43:51 GMT -5
Is it wrong to hope we are #6 or #7 so we play at night on Wed. and Thurs. and I can go to the games? Is there anyway we can stay #6 with a win? Absolutely. We beat Cincy, and whoever wins the UConn/WVU game tomorrow then loses on Saturday. We are then 11-7, even if Marquette wins out we have the tiebreaker against them. |
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Post by bigelephant on Mar 1, 2011 10:50:06 GMT -5
The worrisome thing is can we beat Cincy? - we couldn't at home ........
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 1, 2011 10:50:59 GMT -5
Is it wrong to hope we are #6 or #7 so we play at night on Wed. and Thurs. and I can go to the games? Is there anyway we can stay #6 with a win? That is actually best case scenario, although we've done just fine in recent years playing day games at the Garden. |
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