EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 3, 2011 18:14:11 GMT -5
Chris was a star in high school and received many, many honors. Like almost all high school stars he probably believed college hoops was just another step into the NBA and, when it didn't end up that way, he had to have someone to blame. Certainly not himself. He just needs to understand he is not good enough to play in the League and there is nothing Georgetown or any other team could have done to change that.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Nov 3, 2011 18:48:10 GMT -5
Listen Chris is probably looking at his McD AA class of guards and seeing them all make the L. I dont think he is being unreasonable to acknowledge guys like Johnny Flynn, or Nolan Smith went to the L and he didnt. He was as good as them if not better. Then to look at Austin and see guys like Harden being taken so high and performing so good at the next level and Austin not getting a sniff. It isnt a coincidence guards with his skill-set dont often look at the Hoyas as a destination to play collegiately. Having said that, he still committed here. More than that, he stayed 4 years. The system never changed. So when he says in interviews the system held him back, the truth is he held himself back by playing in it if he thought it didnt do enough to showcase his ability.
Many recruits decide the system is not for them for whatever reason and some actually like it. Point is, JT3 never pulled the rug out from anyone and changed his philosophy mid-stream. it has been the same since he arrived. If you didnt like it, you didnt have to come or could have left. As far as him offering his opinion, it is his to offer and if that is how he feels then he is going to speak on it. At least you know where it is coming from as opposed to him negative recruiting behind the guise of anonymity.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 3, 2011 18:49:31 GMT -5
I'm one who thought Chris was the best PG in the Big East. Having been one of his biggest supporters, his words break my heart if true. Chris was and has been one of my favorite Hoyas Truth is, I eventually came around and really appreciated the fire and intensity chris usually brought to the court. So much so that i flew in from los angeles for senior day just to bid him farewell. His career in my mind can be summed up by watching the closing minutes of the 2010 BET finals against WV. Kid plays a solid game, leaves it all out on the court, and yet a mental lapse at the end of the game ruins it for him. Sincerely hope this tweet was just another one of those momentary lapses. The irony is that last year we played nc state and beat them pretty easily. Is chris suggesting that hand he gone to nc state things would have turned out differently for him and nc state? I can't imagine that.
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Hoya LNU
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Post by Hoya LNU on Nov 3, 2011 20:12:37 GMT -5
Imagine how you'd have responded to Georgetown in general if post-graduation you could log onto sites like this and read all the people b*tching about how you played, or studied, or failed your law school application, or bombed your interview with Goldman. Even in your scenario, I cannot see who would blame GU for bombing the interview, not studying hard, etc... Fair enough. My point is even if I didn't start out blaming GU for my performance, reading my anonymous roommate/classmate's comments about how I didn't study enough/drank too much too often/wasted my talent/didn't apply myself enough wouldn't leave the best taste in my mouth about the institution as a whole. I think very few of us understand the impact of scores of people publicly commenting and debating (with varying degrees of competence and tact/class) our performance. Yes, that's part of being a collegiate athlete on a scholarship at a top tier school. No, that's not necessarily easy to handle - or reasonable to expect to handle - for anyone, let alone a 18-21 year old.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 3, 2011 22:03:11 GMT -5
The irony is that last year we played nc state and beat them pretty easily. Is chris suggesting that hand he gone to nc state things would have turned out differently for him and nc state? I can't imagine that. [/quote]
Chris would have been going to a NCSt team that was just as if not more loaded that our GU team. The recruiting class would have been loaded with Chris, JJ Hickson, and Tracy Smith. I don't know how it would have turned out for Chris had he went to State but you can't base the outcome off of our senior laden team crushing a bunch of highly touted freshmen..........
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 3, 2011 22:31:11 GMT -5
The irony is that last year we played nc state and beat them pretty easily. Is chris suggesting that hand he gone to nc state things would have turned out differently for him and nc state? I can't imagine that. Chris would have been going to a NCSt team that was just as if not more loaded that our GU team. The recruiting class would have been loaded with Chris, JJ Hickson, and Tracy Smith. I don't know how it would have turned out for Chris had he went to State but you can't base the outcome off of our senior laden team crushing a bunch of highly touted freshmen..........[/quote] Are you suggesting that Chris would have faired better at NC State? Sorry, but Chris played on loaded Georgetown teams with the likes of Roy Hibbert as a freshman, Dajuan Summers, Greg Monroe, Austin Freeman and others and that yielded nothing.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Nov 3, 2011 22:44:29 GMT -5
Isn't Chris not even on the continent at the moment? It would be strange for someone who disliked his school that much to be that invested in their recruiting that he would be be aware that a non-high profile recruit made a decision to attend another non-high profile school from the other side of the world. I also find it strange since all his other tweets are about how much he loves Georgetown and that his background picture is one of him in a Georgetown uniform, that that tweet( that isn't even on his page anymore) came out of nowhere. Could it be that its a coincidence and we are taking a tweet completely out of context? Idk, stranger things have happened.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Nov 3, 2011 22:51:22 GMT -5
He just needs to understand he is not good enough to play in the League and there is nothing Georgetown or any other team could have done to change that. Oh please. With all due respect, youre an idiot if you really think that.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Nov 3, 2011 22:54:03 GMT -5
Isn't Chris not even on the continent at the moment? It would be strange for someone who disliked his school that much to be that invested in their recruiting that he would be be aware that a non-high profile recruit made a decision to attend another non-high profile school from the other side of the world. I also find it strange since all his other tweets are about how much he loves Georgetown and that his background picture is one of him in a Georgetown uniform, that that tweet( that isn't even on his page anymore) came out of nowhere. Could it be that its a coincidence and we are taking a tweet completely out of context? Idk, stranger things have happened. yeah good point theres a large time difference too
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Post by KirbyKeger on Nov 4, 2011 0:53:43 GMT -5
Sleepy, I just don't think there's any other way to possibly interpret it. He tweeted about someone picking a college on the day TJ selected, when TJ was picking between NC St and GU, the same schools Chris chose between. In the age of the internet, what continent you're on is irrelevant,
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Post by KirbyKeger on Nov 4, 2011 0:55:27 GMT -5
Also, it seems pretty apparent that he deleted the tweet because he knew it made him look like a jerk. He wouldn't have deleted it if it was about something else.
And with this, lets usher in the latest era of Georgetown basketball.
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Post by sleepy on Nov 4, 2011 1:15:12 GMT -5
Sleepy, I just don't think there's any other way to possibly interpret it. He tweeted about someone picking a college on the day TJ selected, when TJ was picking between NC St and GU, the same schools Chris chose between. In the age of the internet, what continent you're on is irrelevant, Or ya know, someone else on this planet that Chris Wright has actually met in his life made their college decision. Or if it did have to do with Warren, he deleted it because he thought he had commited to Gtown but was wrong. It doesn't really make sense to tweet something like that and then delete it as you know the implications before you tweet it. I'm sure if thats what he meant, he knew how it would sound, hence tweeting it in the first place. It doesn't make sense to delete it. Anyways I'm done overanalyzing tweets from former players on the other side of the world, tweets about conference realignments, tweets about recruiting. I'm just ready to actually have basketball to talk about again.
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Post by deacon on Nov 4, 2011 1:23:36 GMT -5
Also, it seems pretty apparent that he deleted the tweet because he knew it made him look like a jerk. He wouldn't have deleted it if it was about something else. And with this, lets usher in the latest era of Georgetown basketball. It was apparent from the jump what he was referring too and as much as I hate to say it, not really surprising. Oh well, one less person to follow on Twitter.
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Post by chep3 on Nov 4, 2011 2:30:35 GMT -5
Is it just me or why do we care about this text from Chris? Maybe he meant everything it seems he did about GU. What does it change about his career as a Hoya? He's still one of us. Twitter, Facebook, and the general internet give us a lot more things to complain about, but he's not affecting what happens on the court in 2 weeks. I was much more concerned about whether Hollis was going to jump this summer than what a former player says in 140 characters. If our freshmen play like we're expecting them to, it won't matter what school Chris thinks TJ Warren should've picked.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Nov 4, 2011 8:04:39 GMT -5
Chris was a very good high school player and a very good college guard. He wanted to pattern his game after C. Paul because of his size. However he never exhibeted a consistent 3pt shot and the ability to finish at the rim consistently. To play in the NBA at his size you need to be able to control the game with those two abilities unfortunately. He started at point guard for three years. There were plenty of opportunities to showcase those abilities for the NBA scouts to evaluate. He did not lack courage or heart and for that he is a Hoya I will always have fun memories of.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 4, 2011 8:17:02 GMT -5
He just needs to understand he is not good enough to play in the League and there is nothing Georgetown or any other team could have done to change that. Oh please. With all due respect, youre an idiot if you really think that. Thanks for your in-depth analysis.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 4, 2011 9:21:28 GMT -5
He just needs to understand he is not good enough to play in the League and there is nothing Georgetown or any other team could have done to change that. Oh please. With all due respect, youre an idiot if you really think that. Yeah, you're right. NBA GMs love undersized PGs with mediocre jump shots, who think they're faster than they are, and who have no track record of success. Surely four years at NC State would have been his ticket to the pros.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Nov 4, 2011 9:30:26 GMT -5
Every student at Georgetown whether student athlete or just student goes into Georgetown with expectations of getting the job of our dreams upon graduation. Somtimes this comes to fruition, sometimes it doesnt. To think the institution has anything to do with this and/or to not be beyond proud of the amazing university we were priviledged to attend is foolish and unpardonable. My feelings, others can/will differ.
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Post by swhoya on Nov 4, 2011 9:57:09 GMT -5
It seems that there's a pretty good chance that CW was referring to TJ. But...has anyone actually established it?
We're all pouncing on a guy based on what's a very ambiguous post. Perhaps he was talking about some nephew that decided to go to college. A kid he mentored. Or yes, perhaps he was talking about TJ.
But people on this board are ridiculous. Unless you know the guy (and it sounds like Glide is the only one that does, and he seems to think it was about TJ), there could be a million and one possibilities about what CW was actually saying.
It's the sad thing about the internet. Everyone assumes the worst about everyone else, and acts the same way.
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Post by blueandgray on Nov 4, 2011 10:08:26 GMT -5
We're all pouncing on a guy based on what's a very ambiguous post. Perhaps he was talking about some nephew that decided to go to college. A kid he mentored. Or yes, perhaps he was talking about TJ. But people on this board are ridiculous. Yeah, we're the ridiculous ones. I'm sure you're right....chris has a nephew who got into both institutions and chose nc state over Georgetown.
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