DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 10, 2011 12:54:25 GMT -5
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guru
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Post by guru on Jan 10, 2011 13:00:40 GMT -5
Just proves that the laziness of the poll voters sometimes works both ways. There's no way this team should be ranked in the top 25 after the last 2 weeks.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jan 10, 2011 13:00:58 GMT -5
Apparently the coaches didn't see the scoreboard this week . . . .
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Jan 10, 2011 13:02:02 GMT -5
A gift ....let's prove them right and beat pitt
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 10, 2011 13:21:34 GMT -5
Surprised to see the Hoyas in the Top 20 still. Other numbers:
RealTimeRPI: 3
Pomeroy: 24
Sagarin: 11
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 10, 2011 14:10:03 GMT -5
No way this team deserves to be ranked in the top 25...but I'll take it.
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superan
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Post by superan on Jan 10, 2011 14:15:07 GMT -5
Beat Pitt
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 10, 2011 14:25:01 GMT -5
I am actually disappointed. This team is not playing like a Top 25 team and should not be given the distinction of being ranked. I wanted us playing Pitt with a chip on our shoulder from falling out of the rankings. So much for that hope.
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Jan 10, 2011 14:45:38 GMT -5
This just confirms that there is a long lag time between performance on the court and performance in the polls. Up and down. Proves the subjectivity of the whole process. For tournament selection maybe relaince on things like RPI is better.
Regardless, I am happy to still be ranked.
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HoyaChris
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 10, 2011 16:05:43 GMT -5
This just confirms that there is a long lag time between performance on the court and performance in the polls. Up and down. Proves the subjectivity of the whole process. For tournament selection maybe relaince on things like RPI is better. Regardless, I am happy to still be ranked. If we rely on RPI then we are a one seed. That seems a little optimistic. |
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 10, 2011 16:15:21 GMT -5
This just confirms that there is a long lag time between performance on the court and performance in the polls. Up and down. Proves the subjectivity of the whole process. For tournament selection maybe relaince on things like RPI is better. Regardless, I am happy to still be ranked. If we rely on RPI then we are a one seed. That seems a little optimistic. Well, the committee doesn't solely rely on the RPI, but it does factor in somewhat. As badly as we've played in recent games, we're probably still a 5 or 6 seed at the moment. I thought the rankings were pretty generous, but you also have to factor in the fact that several other teams near us in the rankings also lost (see: UCF, Kansas St., Michigan St., Kentucky). That probably helped us marginally. |
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1789
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Post by 1789 on Jan 10, 2011 16:20:17 GMT -5
Clearly the team is underachieving lately, but it doesn't help that they have the toughest schedule. In fact, the 4 losses are to teams ranked in the top 25 of the RPI.
ND (9)
St. John's (12)
W. Va. (15)
Temple (21)
It is time to get our first Top 25 RPI W.
Beat Pitt.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 10, 2011 16:27:13 GMT -5
 Come on people name 25 teams that have a better resume than us right now.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jan 10, 2011 17:06:09 GMT -5
Come on people name 25 teams that have a better resume than us right now. They might not have a better resume, but there's probably a 12 and under rec team playing somewhere in DC that could give us a run for our money in a head-to-head game. |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Jan 10, 2011 17:11:16 GMT -5
Come on people name 25 teams that have a better resume than us right now. Fine, in terms of overall body of work. Not so much in terms of recent body of work. I guess it depends on how you assess teams for polling purposes: is it everything they've done, or basically just what they've done lately? |
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Jan 10, 2011 17:22:11 GMT -5
Obviously the polls are unscientific. I've always viewed their purpose to be to capture who is playing the best at a given moment. Which team is the best team right now. Obviously they are far from perfect, in part because not everyone sees their purpose as the same. HSB may be right in that we have had one of the 25 best seasons to date (and the tournament committee is supposed to look at season long achievement) but I have a hard time believing we're one of the 25 best teams today, which is what I think the polls are supposed to reflect.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 10, 2011 17:25:11 GMT -5
Confidence. This team just completely stopped shooting 3s and when they do, they are way off. III say directly to the team, order them: make your shots.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Jan 11, 2011 13:06:01 GMT -5
Would rather have us drop off the "others receiving votes" list so we would play angry. This team is too passive, and this is a gift of a ranking.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Jan 11, 2011 14:05:18 GMT -5
Our resume is that we've beaten a bunch of average teams plus Missouri, and lost 4 games to some pretty good teams. The verdict is still out. This year, there are few great teams in college hoops. The most important thing is to be playing well in February and March (as usual), when seedings for tournaments are really finalized.
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