Soft team under Thompson

[RDF]

I'm critical fan with strong opinions but I'd argue with anyone who said the guys didn't play hard tonight. I was proud of the fight they showed and Jason Clark who struggled all game--found a way to help/make some great and very tough plays--he took it strong and finished and hit some big FT's. That was tough. How he defends? I find that to be more of a mistake by the coaching staff and the inability to know how to defend. What about Hardy tonight said to play up on him/crowd him?? He should've sagged and forced the jumpshot--or the Hoyas should've gone zone--as teams often do to them--but that is not the team's fault.

Vaughn played his ass off tonight. Henry was solid. Nate contributed. Hollis was best offensive player on team tonight. Vee got screwed out of minutes (nothing new here) but played a nice 3 minutes, and backcourt tried--but didn't hit anything tonight--that happens. It wasn't lack of effort--it was lack of execution. Saturday was a lack of effort. Tonight was a lack of accountability-which comes from up top. III has to hold players accountable for defense--but then again--he's got to have an expectation of what defense is at Georgetown. He doesn't.

Same things beat this team for 3 years running. Small Ball hasn't/isn't/won't work in this system. Wish some people would realize that---but whatever.

Came way encouraged by the fight--and found this more like the Temple game--which was frustrating but winnable. Last week--was awful--but tonight--they found a way to battle. Just wish Coach would find a way to trust his numerous options on bench more when frontline guys are struggling a bit and use "situational" subs--like getting Sanford in at end of game for defensive purposes.

[bronxhoya87]

If you are a Gtown fan and you did not know we would lose on an offensive rebound last night then Bronxie questions your validity as a Gtown fan. We never get that critical defensive rebound when we need it. That is toughness!

Again how the heck (last possession) do we either not go zone last night or put Vee on the PG last night? That was inexcusable.

[OldHoyafan]

Vaughn and Sims get stripped of ball by guards than anyone else in BE. Who is strength coach and do they have a medicine ball drill?

[bronxhoya87]

Vaughn needs to transform before he goes up strong. He is our version of Omega Supreme. Sadly all the big guy starters we find are all slow leapers. Bronxie has been saying this for 4 years.....our recruiting needs to change. We need more athletes...kids who dont need to gather to jump and kids with some quickness and foot speed.

[EasyEd]

Jan 4, 2011 0:45:37 GMT -5 RDF said:

I'm critical fan with strong opinions but I'd argue with anyone who said the guys didn't play hard tonight. I was proud of the fight they showed and Jason Clark who struggled all game--found a way to help/make some great and very tough plays--he took it strong and finished and hit some big FT's. That was tough. How he defends? I find that to be more of a mistake by the coaching staff and the inability to know how to defend. What about Hardy tonight said to play up on him/crowd him?? He should've sagged and forced the jumpshot--or the Hoyas should've gone zone--as teams often do to them--but that is not the team's fault.

Vaughn played his ass off tonight. Henry was solid. Nate contributed. Hollis was best offensive player on team tonight. Vee got screwed out of minutes (nothing new here) but played a nice 3 minutes, and backcourt tried--but didn't hit anything tonight--that happens. It wasn't lack of effort--it was lack of execution. Saturday was a lack of effort. Tonight was a lack of accountability-which comes from up top. III has to hold players accountable for defense--but then again--he's got to have an expectation of what defense is at Georgetown. He doesn't.

Same things beat this team for 3 years running. Small Ball hasn't/isn't/won't work in this system. Wish some people would realize that---but whatever.

Came way encouraged by the fight--and found this more like the Temple game--which was frustrating but winnable. Last week--was awful--but tonight--they found a way to battle. Just wish Coach would find a way to trust his numerous options on bench more when frontline guys are struggling a bit and use "situational" subs--like getting Sanford in at end of game for defensive purposes.

Good post.

[bronxhoya87]

Small ball has been a disaster.

[HoyasCanesOranjeWings]

bronxie, your style makes me think you are also sniffy over on grassy. verdad?
did you go to UM or G'Town?

[bronxhoya87]

Bronxie and Sniffy are one and the same. Ithaca is Gorges........

[wahoohoya]

Jan 4, 2011 9:44:14 GMT -5 EasyEd said:

Jan 4, 2011 0:45:37 GMT -5 RDF said:

I'm critical fan with strong opinions but I'd argue with anyone who said the guys didn't play hard tonight. I was proud of the fight they showed and Jason Clark who struggled all game--found a way to help/make some great and very tough plays--he took it strong and finished and hit some big FT's. That was tough. How he defends? I find that to be more of a mistake by the coaching staff and the inability to know how to defend. What about Hardy tonight said to play up on him/crowd him?? He should've sagged and forced the jumpshot--or the Hoyas should've gone zone--as teams often do to them--but that is not the team's fault.

Vaughn played his ass off tonight. Henry was solid. Nate contributed. Hollis was best offensive player on team tonight. Vee got screwed out of minutes (nothing new here) but played a nice 3 minutes, and backcourt tried--but didn't hit anything tonight--that happens. It wasn't lack of effort--it was lack of execution. Saturday was a lack of effort. Tonight was a lack of accountability-which comes from up top. III has to hold players accountable for defense--but then again--he's got to have an expectation of what defense is at Georgetown. He doesn't.

Same things beat this team for 3 years running. Small Ball hasn't/isn't/won't work in this system. Wish some people would realize that---but whatever.

Came way encouraged by the fight--and found this more like the Temple game--which was frustrating but winnable. Last week--was awful--but tonight--they found a way to battle. Just wish Coach would find a way to trust his numerous options on bench more when frontline guys are struggling a bit and use "situational" subs--like getting Sanford in at end of game for defensive purposes.

Good post.

Spot on. Players are struggling, but they are fighting and they will get better. I have issues with the coaching, but hopefully this was a learning experience for them. Just a shame that we're not taking advantage of these early conference games to give the bench more run in meaningful situations. Can't be afraid to potentially lose a game now by playing your bench when it could make your team better when it really counts.

[bronxhoya87]

Tony Starks and Vee both have how many meaningful minutes since conference play began?

[biggmanu]

Who is Tony?

[Huntsville Hoya]

Vee and Hollis maybe the toughest players on the squad. They have an edge to them that i like. I can't fault JC for last nights defense in the end, that was a sick move. I am upset that there was not a body on the SJU big man for the putback. I would have prefered to see Hollis or Vee on the guy with the ball but JC is bailed out if there is a body on the rebounder.

Julian is a good weakside defender but can't guard the guy in front of him. Have that being said, he sucked last night defensively and so did Henry. Theys sucked against Depaul too, Hank just happened to rebound in the last 5 minutes.

[bronxhoya87]

Jan 4, 2011 14:38:52 GMT -5 biggmanu said:

Who is Tony?

Tony Starks is Ironman

[FrazierFanatic]

Jan 4, 2011 14:38:52 GMT -5 biggmanu said:

Who is Tony?

Victor Shomnick's nephew.

[HoyasCanesOranjeWings]

bronxie, this whole conversation feels reminiscent of many surrounding the 'canes under blandito and clappy. there have always been tragic parallels between 'canes and hoyas.

[Dhall]

Jan 4, 2011 0:45:37 GMT -5 RDF said:

I'm critical fan with strong opinions but I'd argue with anyone who said the guys didn't play hard tonight. I was proud of the fight they showed and Jason Clark who struggled all game--found a way to help/make some great and very tough plays--he took it strong and finished and hit some big FT's. That was tough. How he defends? I find that to be more of a mistake by the coaching staff and the inability to know how to defend. What about Hardy tonight said to play up on him/crowd him?? He should've sagged and forced the jumpshot--or the Hoyas should've gone zone--as teams often do to them--but that is not the team's fault.

Vaughn played his ass off tonight. Henry was solid. Nate contributed. Hollis was best offensive player on team tonight. Vee got screwed out of minutes (nothing new here) but played a nice 3 minutes, and backcourt tried--but didn't hit anything tonight--that happens. It wasn't lack of effort--it was lack of execution. Saturday was a lack of effort. Tonight was a lack of accountability-which comes from up top. III has to hold players accountable for defense--but then again--he's got to have an expectation of what defense is at Georgetown. He doesn't.

Same things beat this team for 3 years running. Small Ball hasn't/isn't/won't work in this system. Wish some people would realize that---but whatever.

Came way encouraged by the fight--and found this more like the Temple game--which was frustrating but winnable. Last week--was awful--but tonight--they found a way to battle. Just wish Coach would find a way to trust his numerous options on bench more when frontline guys are struggling a bit and use "situational" subs--like getting Sanford in at end of game for defensive purposes.

Agree with all of this and put responsibility on the coaches. The one thing that I thought of which might explain the lineup at the end of game was that we had no timeouts left. So JTIII needed to think about what happens if they scored. Tough situation because you can't go with an all-defensive lineup. Of course, we had no timeouts left because we had to take some random ones when there was no plan on offense and the clock was running down. I think I said "ugh" ten times during the game, but I wasn't swearing at the screen like against Notre Dame. This was a repeat of Temple, and I can bear losing close games on the final possession on the road if we find a way to win our share of them too later on.

[bronxhoya87]

Jan 4, 2011 15:42:21 GMT -5 HoyasCanesOranjeWings said:

bronxie, this whole conversation feels reminiscent of many surrounding the 'canes under blandito and clappy. there have always been tragic parallels between 'canes and hoyas.

I have been saying that for years. JTIII is a good coach (unlike Blandy and Cokehead who were rancid) but he might not have next level potential. (Potential one and doners from the area must be recruited hard).

It all comes down to recruiting. He needs to get better players here. Outside of Bowen we have no eye popping athletes on the roster.

You guys will laugh at Bronxie but here him now and overstand him next Tuesday.....we have never replaced J. Rivers at Gtown.....defensively of course.

[FrazierFanatic]

When you are ahead and the other team has the ball in the last minute, you focus on getting a stop, and you put your best defensive team on the floor. If instead you place your focus on what you will do if the other team scores - you pretty much assure that they will.

[bronxhoya87]

Seriously again Bronxie asks the masses.....did you not know at the end we would lose this game via offense rebound? We never get that big board when we need it. That is a function of desire. JTIII although a great teacher neuters the kids heart.

[wahoohoya]

It certainly didn't surprise me. But it wasn't a lack of desire. It was a lack of fundamental team defensive skills/positioning.