hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Nov 8, 2010 15:12:06 GMT -5
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Nov 8, 2010 15:31:21 GMT -5
Football world:
Prepare to be dazzled by the coaching genius that is Jason Garrett.
I am looking forward to RDF's upcoming 8 pages on the subject.
;D
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Nov 8, 2010 15:45:11 GMT -5
Jason "it's a good thing they finally fired Wade -- my stock was dropping like a rock" Garrett is now coaching "America's team."
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 8, 2010 17:12:23 GMT -5
So 1-7 was what it took to make Jerry's head explode. Who had that in the pool?
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Post by kghoya on Nov 8, 2010 18:47:59 GMT -5
My favorite Wade Phillips moment is still when he benched Doug Flutie for the Music City Miracle game after Rob Johnson played well in a meaningless week 17 victory.
Keep in mind that Flutie had started the previous 15 games and locked up a playoff spot for the Bills.
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Post by jgalt on Nov 8, 2010 19:44:36 GMT -5
Last time Jerry fired someone in season it was Norv, and he was 7-6 at the time, so i guess standards have slipped a bit.
Phillips had to go, but the players should be ashamed of themselves. Ok, Romo, is out but that is only recently. And really he isnt a great QB- any above average QB could put up big numbers behind the O line that the Boys had the past few years. These players have been giving no effort. They get played to play a game but they cant even have the pride to play it well. Phillips isnt a great coach, maybe not even a good coach, but when players play like crap God couldnt coach them to 2 wins.
Im a cowboys fan if that means anything in this conversation.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 8, 2010 20:09:20 GMT -5
Last time Jerry fired someone in season it was Norv, and he was 7-6 at the time, so i guess standards have slipped a bit. Phillips had to go, but the players should be ashamed of themselves. Ok, Romo, is out but that is only recently. And really he isnt a great QB- any above average QB could put up big numbers behind the O line that the Boys had the past few years. These players have been giving no effort. They get played to play a game but they cant even have the pride to play it well. Phillips isnt a great coach, maybe not even a good coach, but when players play like crap God couldnt coach them to 2 wins. Im a cowboys fan if that means anything in this conversation. Um, I'm not a fan of Norv Turner or Wade Phillips (or Jerral Jones or Danny Snyder for that matter), but I'm pretty sure Jerry didn't fire Norv after he went 7-6. |
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Post by hifigator on Nov 9, 2010 0:22:33 GMT -5
jgalt, I will meet you halfway, is as far as I agree that the players weren't giving it their all. But if we all agree on that, then to excuse the coach because the players weren't trying only changes which particular part of the coach's job he was failing at. I understand that you can lead a horse to water ... but still ...
As for Norv, I have no recollection, but I'm pretty sure that he wasn't ever as bad as Wade has been. And while you could argue as to the talent differences, I can honestly say that I would positively not have done any worse than 1-7 thusfar. And heck ... I'm a hell of a lot cheaper!
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Post by RDF on Nov 9, 2010 10:40:04 GMT -5
How can Norv Turner have been fired when he's never been the Head Coach of the team? Jerry Jones is an idiot--but he's never fired a coach inseason until yesterday--and Norv Turner's only been employed as an OC for Dallas under Jimmy Johnson.
Dallas problems are far more then Wade Phillips. Phillips did a good job considering the overrated "great talent" you repeatedly hear from talking heads. To win division twice and make Playoffs 2 times with that group of crap is pretty good.
Problems with Dallas:
1--1,000,000--Jerry Jones
Rest of problems:
Awful OL
Awful RB
Awful ILB
Awful Safeties
Horrific Strength and Conditioning Program--unless booze/blow is top of your preparation for season
As long as Jerry Jones is the GM--they are doomed. Garrett is a pompous jackass who in his initial presser lied about everything. If you know anything about their organization, Garrett was in charge of offense, Wade defense, and Jerry the team. Players went over Phillips head when he would fine/want to bench them, Jerry would "protect" them. Phillips had no say in anything with their offense--and while the defense tanked on Phillips, Garrett's offense has been horrific most of the time he's been there--well unless you consider "total yards" impressive. He talked about "balance"--why didn't it happen before? Talked of strong practices/organized meetings--again--anyone who knows football understands that a football team is structured where the offense/defense are on their own until they meet for practice, so meetings should've been strong under Garrett anyways if he was in charge--which he was.
Garrett's clown show yesterday was a complete lie--and basically a last chance for this doofus, pompous clown to save face for future NFL jobs, and to save Jerry's ass with fanbase with "tough talk". Phillips did a lot with little in terms of defensive personnel the past 3 years--and this year they sucked--but what's that say for Garrett the past few seasons? Most teams in league will tell you that Dallas is the easiest team to prepare for--you get same looks/formations and they run same plays/do worst job of self scouting in league.
Garrett will be lucky to win a single game-I don't think he will--and think it'll be a bigger flop then Phillips. Players think he's a joke--and they actually liked Phillips--so imagine what is about to take place. Only thing Garrett has on his side-Jerry put some of their overrated stiffs on notice and they'll want to play "hard" so they can stay in NFL's "club med" where you don't have to work hard/produce, get paid like superstars, get hyped as a team based on past and not what you actually do and are on television due to name of franchise and ratings--as so many love seeing this franchise get their ass kicked--so losing doesn't effect their ratings.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 9, 2010 17:04:48 GMT -5
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Nov 9, 2010 18:57:16 GMT -5
Last time Jerry fired someone in season it was Norv, and he was 7-6 at the time, so i guess standards have slipped a bit. Phillips had to go, but the players should be ashamed of themselves. Ok, Romo, is out but that is only recently. And really he isnt a great QB- any above average QB could put up big numbers behind the O line that the Boys had the past few years. These players have been giving no effort. They get played to play a game but they cant even have the pride to play it well. Phillips isnt a great coach, maybe not even a good coach, but when players play like crap God couldnt coach them to 2 wins. Im a cowboys fan if that means anything in this conversation. Um, I'm not a fan of Norv Turner or Wade Phillips (or Jerral Jones or Danny Snyder for that matter), but I'm pretty sure Jerry didn't fire Norv after he went 7-6. Uh, yeah so... i had a brain fart and meant that to be about Snyder, so yeah im glad i ordered those three cases of crow. ill go eat it now |
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 9, 2010 20:57:08 GMT -5
Um, why is this such a big deal again? A ty team fires their coach midseason? Oh, right, because the Dallas Cowboys are America's Team...  |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Nov 9, 2010 21:20:13 GMT -5
Go Niners.
That is all.
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Post by SFOHoya on Nov 10, 2010 1:28:12 GMT -5
If only the Niners would fire their coach and change ownership... |
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