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Post by alonzosflattop on Nov 5, 2010 10:16:31 GMT -5
I haven't looked through all the threads to see if there has been discussion on this already, but are we thinking Hollis starts at the 4? so: Wright Freeman Clark Thompson Vaughn
I guess other options are Lubick (which I think will happen eventually), Sims or Benimon at the 4.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 5, 2010 10:27:37 GMT -5
I mentioned it on another thread. Given ODU's line-up, I agree with you, unless JT3 has seen a rebounder who could make a diffeence.
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Post by Locker on Nov 5, 2010 10:37:33 GMT -5
If Hollis is going to see time at the 4 -- and I think he will need to see some time there -- we're better off if he's in there when Vaughn is at the 5. That may mitigate somewhat in favor of starting him. We'll get killed if Hollis is the 4 next to Sims or Lubick at the 5.
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Post by skyhoya on Nov 5, 2010 10:47:13 GMT -5
Here we go again, DaJuan was a three we played him as a four, now Hollis is really a three and we are going to play him as a four. I guess if we start him there and make him a four in all Julian rotations, he'll be OK. For those of you who blasted me last June for saying Hollis will play the four, I guess we'll see next Friday if that's the way III decides to go. Starting and playing minutes are two different concepts with III. Do you remember he started Nikita over Jessie, but some games he got only 5 minutes?
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Post by Dhall on Nov 5, 2010 10:48:12 GMT -5
Hollis showed he was a good rebounder despite his lack of beef. Whether he can defend bigger players in the post is what I doubt.
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Post by hoya91 on Nov 5, 2010 10:48:31 GMT -5
I predict Lubick will be a starter at some point this season.
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Post by gujake on Nov 5, 2010 10:53:47 GMT -5
My prediction is Benimon will start at the 4 in the opener and Lubick will be there by the end of the season. My brain will explode if Hollis starts at the 4 although I admit that is a possibility.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 5, 2010 10:58:33 GMT -5
agree with HoyaJake
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Post by chep3 on Nov 5, 2010 11:37:59 GMT -5
I agree with Dhall. I think Hollis, if he knows his role is to board, will stick his nose and there and do a decent job of it. I just shudder at him checking a Rick Jackson for extended periods of time.
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Post by skyhoya on Nov 5, 2010 11:50:43 GMT -5
Hollar for Hollis at the Ted.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 5, 2010 12:22:58 GMT -5
My prediction is Benimon will start at the 4 in the opener and Lubick will be there by the end of the season. My brain will explode if Hollis starts at the 4 although I admit that is a possibility. So do you see Hollis coming off the bench, or do you see Clark not starting? I think Clark has earned his starting role and should not lose it. I also think we should put the five best players on the floor until results prove that does not work. To me, that means Hollis starts at the four. The lineup should be Wright, Freeman, Clark, Thompson, and Vaughn.
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Post by calhoya on Nov 5, 2010 12:27:18 GMT -5
Although I would prefer the bigger line-up we know from recent years with Marquette, Nova and West Virginia that smaller guard oriented line-ups can work as long as there is one effective rebounder. Over the course of the year, I think it would be a big mistake for JT III not to play a much deeper bench and utilize some of the size and speed on the bench.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Nov 5, 2010 12:32:09 GMT -5
Wright Freeman Hollis Lubick Vaughn
First off the bench: Clark
We have a lot of decent subs off the bench, which may be tough to manage...
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Post by sleepy on Nov 5, 2010 12:44:29 GMT -5
JJLayup i only wish that in time that is the starting lineup though i'm really not big on nates defensive ability i would just rather see AF at the 2 and some size on the wing.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Nov 5, 2010 12:47:49 GMT -5
JJLayup i only wish that in time that is the starting lineup though i'm really not big on nates defensive ability i would just rather see AF at the 2 and some size on the wing. The maybe switch out Lubick for Moses just to get more D on the floor? I'm just looking for any way to have more size on the floor, I really don't think we need to start 4 guards in order to get enough points on the board.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 5, 2010 13:01:05 GMT -5
Wright Freeman Hollis Lubick Vaughn First off the bench: Clark We have a lot of decent subs off the bench, which may be tough to manage... So not happening in the first game. I could Jason being asked to be the Super 6 at some point if a real PF and Hollis make their claim. But even then, it's Hollis likely asked to be the Darrel Owens version 2.0. But does anyone really expect any of our three guards not to start? There's really no precedent for that, is there?
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Post by sleepy on Nov 5, 2010 13:05:01 GMT -5
I agree i just dont see it happening for a while, if at all. I would rather see Clark of the bench which i think will make for a better defensive team.
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Post by TBird41 on Nov 5, 2010 13:06:51 GMT -5
Wright Freeman Hollis Lubick Vaughn First off the bench: Clark We have a lot of decent subs off the bench, which may be tough to manage... So not happening in the first game. I could Jason being asked to be the Super 6 at some point if a real PF and Hollis make their claim. But even then, it's Hollis likely asked to be the Darrel Owens version 2.0. But does anyone really expect any of our three guards not to start? There's really no precedent for that, is there? Would you consider Jesse Sapp losing his starting job precedent? That happened later in the season though and possibly b/c of chemistry problems that hopefully aren't present here
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 5, 2010 13:14:19 GMT -5
who knows ... trust coach ....this year compared to last starters not as key ...as i think we willl have to use our good depth to our advantage...... soooo .... and remember its not who starts but who finishes.... GO HOYAS.... ONE AND ALL KEY TO GAME!!!1 thats KEY TO GAME!!!! IS TO REBOUND!!!! if we get out rebounded by ten or more we probably wont win so hit the boards hard and BE MEAN HOYAS BE MEAN .. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Nov 5, 2010 13:15:16 GMT -5
I agree with the "not happening" comments completely, that's just what I'd wish for. Starting three guys under 6' 4", with Hollis being considered a big man is just terrible.
We all know JTIII focuses on minutes played over "starters," so why is it so off the wall that a defensive minded freshman would start just for initial match-ups? I could see Moses/Lubick start at the 4, with Clark coming off the bench at the first TV time out. Then we'd be moving to a smaller line up for a few minutes until perhaps Hollis comes out for a true forward (Bennimon/Lubick).
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