SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 4, 2011 12:29:08 GMT -5
Complete implosion by the Heat tonight - Big Three have realized their mistake and play accordingly when their opponent punches them in the mouth - Spo might figure out but he doesn't have the resume to command their attention. If they go quietly in the playoffs, Riley will swallow his pride, declare failure and deal Bosh or LeBron (who's beginning to look like Dominique Wilkins II) if the price is right - would not be surprised to see LeBron end up in Dallas. This is so unlikely. I guarantee none of the Big Three are getting moved. This was never a one year plan. I agree with RDF on Bosh, but this Heat team is dangerous. Pretending they suck every time they lose is just silly.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 4, 2011 12:55:25 GMT -5
Tell us how you really feel, RDF. ;D
The Heat don't suck, but they implode way too often against good teams. I'm not a Heat hater - I'd love to see them beat the Celtics - but they won't. At least not this year.
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Post by alleninxis on Mar 4, 2011 13:49:45 GMT -5
As a Knick fan, I wanted LeBron..and I'm not sure he has regrets about that, but he has to think 'what if' in regards to going to Chicago. Going there it would have still been 'his' team as Rose was not a star until now and he'd have Noah inside..and correct me if I'm wrong, but they still could have signed a 2nd FA (Boozer.) and Thibs seem to have more of a clue than Spoelstra.
all he would have to deal with would be Jordan's 'shadow'. and that would have been lessened once he started winning and with that team, they would have won big.
As a big LeBron fan, it's just been a disappointing several months.
Bosh..such garbage. I dont think they trade him, either..although I wouldn't be surprised if Riley attempted to. Can guarantee he wishes he talked Wade/LeBron into spreading his money out instead of giving that fool a max deal.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2011 14:01:43 GMT -5
Complete implosion by the Heat tonight - Big Three have realized their mistake and play accordingly when their opponent punches them in the mouth - Spo might figure out but he doesn't have the resume to command their attention. If they go quietly in the playoffs, Riley will swallow his pride, declare failure and deal Bosh or LeBron (who's beginning to look like Dominique Wilkins II) if the price is right - would not be surprised to see LeBron end up in Dallas. This is so unlikely. I guarantee none of the Big Three are getting moved. This was never a one year plan. I agree with RDF on Bosh, but this Heat team is dangerous. Pretending they suck every time they lose is just silly. These guys are 3 games UNDER .500 against teams with winning record--not elite teams--but teams with winning records. They had the 2nd easiest schedule in the league leading into All Star break and they are so fragile mentally as a team. Minute the opponents show they aren't backing down--and Heat's "preening" doesn't scare them--they go into panic mode. Teams that panic get upset in Playoffs. Teams that panic don't win championships. They aren't dangerous--they should be a favorite for the championship--but you're correct--they likely would love to play up the "underdog" role--as that would be less pressure. Pressure exposes what you are--and what you aren't as a team/player.
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Post by hifigator on Mar 4, 2011 16:13:43 GMT -5
You can't really argue with RDF on this one. For whatever reason, it's quite clear that the Heat are pretenders up to this point. As he points out, their impressive record is inflated by their feasting on the have-nots. And obviously, as the playoffs get here, there become less and less have-nots.
Now I wonder what help Mike Bibby could do for them. Off the top of my head, I think he would be a good addition and I would think that he would be a positive to the team in the intangibles department as well, but you can never perfectly predict chemistry. Only time will tell.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 4, 2011 21:27:00 GMT -5
Bibby's not what he used to be, but he's no poser, and I think he'd fit nicely next to Wade. He's certainly a clear upgrade from what they have.
I'm hearing a lot of LeBron for MVP talk, and I find that mystifying. I agree with RDF - LeBron isn't right. He personally took over countless games in the second half for the Cavs the last two years, but this year - it just isn't working, and you can't pin that all on Bosh. Well, maybe you can, since Bosh was supposed to be their "power" guy, and he isn't. I think part of it is that LeBron and Wade still haven't figured out how to play with each other when games are close.
As for LeBron on the Bulls - LeBron, Rose, Noah, Boozer and any fifth guy off the street would be an absolute killer team.
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Post by hifigator on Mar 5, 2011 2:53:43 GMT -5
Rooter, I can't argue that Bibby is no longer in his prime. Long in the tooth is a bit of an understatement, but as you suggest, I think he has the right demeanor to "fit," but as I mentioned, sometimes predicting chemistry from the outside isn't exactly the science that we would hope/think. Still, IF ... and that's a big IF ... but IF the younger talented studs are willing to learn just a tad from the seasoned veteran, then he could create that special intangible something that can create dramatic changes in the overall unit. I guess it's sort of a whole being greater than the sum of the parts kind of thing. Until now, Miami is hoping to succeed because of the sum of the parts. As we have seen, not only does the sum not always outweigh other groups of "lesser" parts, but sometimes the whole is actually less than the sum of the parts -- as is the case with the Heat. At this point, almost any such attempt can't really hurt anyway.
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Post by RDF on Mar 7, 2011 0:01:01 GMT -5
So after today's late game loss--the Master of Panic, Coach Spo of the SHEat, mentioned "several players were crying in the lockeroom"---and Bosh came out and made sure it was known he wasn't one of them--sure Rupaul--I believe that one. You and the deleted were balling like the female dogs you are--and watching RuPaul on that last sequence sums him up--stood and watched--of course he had a few hoops early and pounded his chest with 10 min to go in 2ND QUARTER--but who doesn't?
Did Wade actually think that fans nationally would pull for these clowns? He sounded bitter he wasn't "loved" by the national media/fans out there? You play for the ****ing SHEat, nobody likes you/them. Now they hate Lebron too. It's all Wade's fault and then he's throwing guys like GB and Rupaul under bus--so is Lebron-who apparently has "had his fill" of Rupaul and wants him removed from lineup late in games.
Can't make this crap up and way to "stick it out" together when it gets tough. Coach Spo will be unemployed soon--and blame will fall on him--which is hilarious because nobody can coach responsbility and mental toughness--or the things that dangle between a male's legs and make him a man--to his LadyBoy!
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 9, 2011 22:11:16 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the Lakers and Clippers could both lose in Cleveland and win in Boston?
Any reasonable explanation will be accepted.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Mar 10, 2011 11:08:00 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the Lakers and Clippers could both lose in Cleveland and win in Boston? Any reasonable explanation will be accepted. Cleveland have good strip clubs?
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Post by RDF on Mar 10, 2011 11:10:32 GMT -5
Bosh Spice aka Rupal aka The Crying Game--is now complaining about not getting touches in the post. Lebron in a "pc--aka Hoya homer outlook) told him to Shut up and if he wants the ball more, all he has to do is call for it.
The "Big 3" is now doing interviews as the "Big 2"--as it should've been known as and deleted Bosh is starting to wear on their nerves.
Couldn't make a Heat hater more happy. Hope Bynum splits his face open with an elbow tonight--and Kobe "Rondo's" him with a dunk tonight.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 10, 2011 12:57:28 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the Lakers and Clippers could both lose in Cleveland and win in Boston? Any reasonable explanation will be accepted. Cleveland have good strip clubs? And Boston doesn't??? Unbelievably bad loss for the Celtics last night. Clippers had won six road games all year and were without Eric Gordon.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 10, 2011 15:12:39 GMT -5
Unbelievably bad loss for the Celtics last night. Clippers had won six road games all year and were without Eric Gordon. Do you think this will influence where the committee seeds them for the tournament?
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 10, 2011 20:03:01 GMT -5
Unbelievably bad loss for the Celtics last night. Clippers had won six road games all year and were without Eric Gordon. Do you think this will influence where the committee seeds them for the tournament? Still 1st seed in the East, according to my sources. Unlike the Lakers, no one has ever accused this Celtic team of taking games off. That's what makes this loss so surprising.
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Post by bmartin on Mar 10, 2011 22:21:28 GMT -5
It's the NBA. Even the below average teams can have nights when they make shots.
The Clippers jumped out to a lead, put up 60 points in the 1st half which is a lot against the Celtics and then held on.
Clippers shot 52%, Boston shot 44%.
Mo Williams had a great game, 28 points, 5/7 from three.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 11, 2011 0:34:29 GMT -5
Unlike the Lakers, no one has ever accused this Celtic team of taking games off. That's what makes this loss so surprising. I watched a fair portion of the game. Didn't look like they took a night off. Rondo has been playing too many minutes and looked gassed and a step slow from the start although he ended up close to a triple double. Celts still missing O'Neal and Glen Davis and shot poorly (Rondo, Pierce, Garnett, Allen were a combined 20-62 from the field) while the Clips shot very well and got out to a big lead. Celts still working the new guys in so they're pretty inconsistent at times. Jeff Green didn't score a ton but his plus-minus was +13 (all the starters were negative).
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 11, 2011 12:36:23 GMT -5
I'm well aware that anything can happen in the NBA on a given night. Earlier this year, the Lakers lost at home to Phoenix by 4 or 5 points when the Suns made something like 25 3's. It was crazy, they just couldn't miss. These things happen. It's just that the combination of the Lakers playing abominably in Cleveland and the Lakers and Clippers both playing really well in Boston (along with the Celtics playing poorly enough to lose to the Clippers regardless of how the Clippers were playing) is such an unlikely scenario that I think perhaps it might have been caused by the Earth tipping off its axis.
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