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Post by TBird41 on Feb 11, 2011 23:14:22 GMT -5
Looks like that site needs to be updated. ;D
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 12, 2011 6:32:13 GMT -5
Looks like that site needs to be updated. ;D and so it has lol
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 12, 2011 6:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 22, 2011 12:53:25 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 22, 2011 18:06:22 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it elsewhere but how awesome would it be if the Knicks pulled Pat up to play the 4 as a rebounder/defensive guy.
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Post by vcjack on Feb 23, 2011 16:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 23, 2011 18:10:30 GMT -5
So, even if it wasn't apparent before, the Deron Williams trade has demonstrated one of the biggest problems facing the NBA, and particularly non-marquee market teams--why should fans in MN/Utah/Portland/Milwaukee/New Orlenas/etc care if their teams have no chance of resigning their young stars? I understand that not all young stars are going to leave for bigger markets (Durant and Duncan show that), but without changes, I think it's hard to see any big time stars staying with the T-Wolves once their rookie contract is up. I'd be a lot more excited about Kevin Love / the T-Wolves rebuilding effort if I thought that there was any chance Love was going to stick around. I assume I'm not the only basketball fan in a smaller market that feels the same way. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/02/23/williams.trade/index.html?eref=sihpI'm not sure what the answer is, but I think that owners need to be really careful about this--the exemption that allowed teams that drafted players to pay them more was a brilliant idea in that regard, whereas something that doesn't provide a reason to choose the smaller market could very easily back fire (I just can't see a franchise tag working in the NBA unless it looked like baseball's old reserve clause, for example).
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 23, 2011 19:27:59 GMT -5
Baseball does okay, TBird. The rookie contract is a bit longer, and players aren't as important, but... it's a simulation issue.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 23, 2011 20:17:34 GMT -5
Baseball does okay, TBird. The rookie contract is a bit longer, and players aren't as important, but... it's a simulation issue. I'm not sure what you mean by simulation issue. Baseball has figured it out enough through the 6 years of team control (which is an incentive to trade free agency years for raises/certainty) and it is a less important to keep one player for baseball teams. Tampa and the Twins and some of the other small market teams have realized that it's about having a real talented team--it's just the nature of the sport. You can also throw money at the problem in a way you can't in the NBA due to the salary restrictions ( like Pujols getting $30M) Basketball, you can't win without a real max contract type superstar. I'm not sure that there's any way under the current system for a small market team to get / keep one unless they get the Duncan/Durant once in a generation good guy that loves his teammates and the area.
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Post by Jack on Feb 23, 2011 20:32:31 GMT -5
For many years, adopting a policy where a player's current team was the team that could offer him the most in free agency seemed to be pretty successful, but lately players have been strongarming their way into sign and trade deals or trades prior to extensions. With a new CBA coming, it seems like this should be addressed somehow - maybe take away the sign and trade option and say that a player has to be with a team for at least a full season or even two full seasons to be eligible for a the largest max contract. If Melo wants to take a 10% pay cut to play in New York he still can, but if he wants to max his earnings he has to stay in Denver. Either that, or adopt the Hank Steinbrenner solution and contract all the small market teams.
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Post by RDF on Feb 28, 2011 0:59:38 GMT -5
A few observations from tonight's thrilling and LOVED Knicks win over the South Beach Clowns:
1. Really starting to think that in addition to how he decided to announce his departure to another team--it was the team he selected that has irritated NBA fans. The Heat are so lame. Just nothing about them speaks "greatness". I loved seeing Zo get a ring--but their title was even tainted-with the help of Ken Mauer and Game 3 of the most "interesting" officiated Playoff Game that isn't discussed--we always hear Lakers-Kings Game 6--don't forget about this game fans as it basically kept a dead Heat team alive--again great for Zo, but....adds to lameness of Heat.
2. When you have 3 "supposed" top 10 players in the world (I refuse to believe Rupaul is in this category) and they have to BEG/PLEA for fans to show up and make a homecourt environment, how long will NBA allow 2 of their most marketable players to be stuck down there? It's not good for league when what should be your top draw is seen as a "Goon show". Tonight's game--Knicks fans took over the arena, James got booed at FT line, they mocked the Heat, and while this usually happens in Miami pro sports when it comes to NY/Boston--it's embarrassing. It's like a face wrestler (Cena) getting booed and clowned by fans who pull for heels to show the higher powers how lame something is/why they suck.
3. Carmelo owns Lebron's teams. He just beats the guy's teams head to head. It's an unspoken thing by many--but key factor to Knicks adding Melo aside from his talent.
4. When your best celebs courtside are friggin DJ Khaled and Birdman--it's beyond sorry. Were Trick Daddy and Ace Hood not available? Does Khaled have 8-10 different people come sit in his seat to pay tribute to how he gets paid--by having guest rappers do the work? At least get Wayne courtside so there is some cache and hilarity that could ensue--but these two just make it look as if they are trying waaaaaaayyyyyyyy too hard. WE DA BEST (Heat can get as supposed diehard fans) at looking lame. They look like characters from Star Wars who get eaten by the desert hole with teeth.
5. For all of the talk of Heat-Celtics---Heat haven't done a thing against elite teams and aren't doing much against teams over .500. They have a ton of those games left and if they aren't careful--they could end up in 3 spot and face Knicks in 1st Round. If that happens and somehow they were upset--this would go down as one of the biggest goon up/flops of all time and why do I want this matchup even more now. Just to put fear of failing in the head of Rupaul (toast some white folks, drink some chocolate milk, tuck my shirt in--LIKE A BOSH!) LeBron (why doesn't he get T'd up for his constant whining/moaning in year league was going to tighten up on that crap?) and Wade--aka Mr. Cool--nothing like Billups busting that game changing 3 in his face and then clowning Rupaul with a steal after James throw one away too.
6. Mike Miller has now morphed into a gay biker (not that there anything wrong with that) but you get sense of how poser-ish and phony it is down there in terms of confidence/attitude when a clown like this is preening after a call? Why don't you just try and stay healthy for more then 1 game--and he'll soon be bleeding--guy bleeds about every 2 games. What a goblin.
7. The Heat are going to need a new coach and I nominate 1 man--TOM CREAN! He'd fit in perfectly with their "vibe" down there. He's the PT Barnum of basketball--he keeps a job somehow and has Indiana fans under his spell. Their home games are like communes where followers wait for the Cult leader to "set them free". It's really odd. Marquette became a real BE member with his departure--and Indiana became a joke with his arrival. Crean and Bosh would be the greatest pair ever! TA on Crack, and the biggest poser in the league. Bosh is such a straight up dork, that Kevin Durant put away his milk and cookies to talk crap about him. When Durant--who I've never heard say a bad word about anyone--says something--that's last straw. Bosh is officially a clown of all time levels. Hope Jermaine O'Neal joins them next year too--he's built for this sideshow.
8. I love what Bulls are doing in East. Quietly they are tied for 2nd spot in loss column and have beaten Heat 2 times this year--with another game to come this Sunday. They defend, they are a TEAM, and they have inside scoring/rebounding and don't care about looking cool--they'd rather win.
9. Seeing Billups hit a big shot/make plays tonight was awesome. He's been washed up for a while and living off '04 Finals for a long time--but he was best player on court in 4th quarter and dominated. The motley crew surrounding he/Melo/Amare is something to behold--but Bill Walker had his baby and looked good on court and Shawne Williams hit some big FT's. Landry Fields is a hustler wolfboy lookalike but he isn't afraid--which can be a problem--ease up on the crazy 1 on 4 shots and for goodness sake get the number 42 to honor your distant relative Scott Howard! For Knicks fans--didn't the great Pat Cummings rock #42? LOL
10. Zo is NOT a good luck charm this weekend-Hoyas/Heat bite it with him courtside--but good to see him both nights. Just hate that he saw yesterday's game/felt his pain but have to say I enjoyed tonight and wish Zo would beat the living crap out of Bosh. That guy just doesn't care about hoops--he's just happy people know who he is now--and the fact he acted tough after a hoop with 10 minutes to go in the game (flexed/sneered like you expect a guy who hit a shot with 10 seconds left) shows how little he knows of the game. He should be ordered to apologize to everyone for being such a dork.
With that said--enjoyed the game, glad Knicks won, and want that matchup to happen in Round 1!
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 28, 2011 12:09:23 GMT -5
Thrilled the Knicks won last night. Don't think they will contend for a title this year, but they will certainly put a scare into whoever they play in the 1st round.
Biggest thing for Knicks last night was their defense, and I thought it started with Billups. Forget D'Antoni's system; if Chauncey can find a way to get maximum effort out of the rest of the squad on the defensive end, Knicks will be an extremely tough out. I thought one of his quotes was especially telling (and one the Hoyas should really take to heart):
"Most of defense is just effort," Billups said, "and being willing to do it."
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Post by RDF on Feb 28, 2011 12:58:59 GMT -5
Thrilled the Knicks won last night. Don't think they will contend for a title this year, but they will certainly put a scare into whoever they play in the 1st round. Biggest thing for Knicks last night was their defense, and I thought it started with Billups. Forget D'Antoni's system; if Chauncey can find a way to get maximum effort out of the rest of the squad on the defensive end, Knicks will be an extremely tough out. I thought one of his quotes was especially telling (and one the Hoyas should really take to heart): "Most of defense is just effort," Billups said, "and being willing to do it."Great points--and also telling moment--when Anthony called out to teammates "I got ball" and took James and with 5 min to go Knicks close them out. You can't win if your best players refuse to defend. Anthony accepting that responsibility was important.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 1, 2011 14:46:08 GMT -5
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Post by hifigator on Mar 1, 2011 16:34:00 GMT -5
I have to be honest. I have been quite vocal for years about my lack of interest in the NBA, especially during the regular season. And while I haven't watched many NBA games when compared to the number of NCAA games I've seen, I have, without a doubt, watched at least part of more regular season NBA games than any other year I remember. The drama of the Big 3 in Miami, the emergence of the Bulls again, the number of Gators in the league and more recently, the drama of the Knicks have cumulatively sparked my interest noticeably. And when the playoffs get here, I will probably watch more NBA games in a short period than I ever have in my life.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 3, 2011 22:55:22 GMT -5
God, I cannot wait to read RDF's reaction to this turd-laying by Miami. Getting iced by J.J. Redick was definitely the cherry on top of that collapse.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Mar 3, 2011 23:00:51 GMT -5
Did you notice Bosh spiking the ball in front of the ref after the final buzzer? It was the toughest play he made all night.
EDIT: OK wow, now he's crying in the post game presser? Over a regular season game in March?
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2011 1:09:57 GMT -5
Guys--you were told about Rupal a while back-he's a total clown. Bosh is just a guy that for some reason--you want to go up to-tell you are going to punch him in the face and then proceed to have the entire arena join you as he's just unlikeable.
Highlights of Bosh being Bosh
1. Gagging like a coward in 4th Quarter 2. Trying to draw fouls and getting ball ripped out of his hands 3. Crying to officials 4. Flopping on a play so badly that he'll lose respect from teammates when they see it. (play where Wade saved ball and Howard leaped high to get the ball--Bosh flopped hoping to draw a foul) 5. Bosh's ladyboy 3pt attempt--this is shot you get with 9 seconds left in game down 3? 6. Bosh spiking ball like he actually cares if Heat win or not--he doesn't. 7. Bosh crying like a ladyboy.
LIKE A BOSH--tuck my shirt in, go to the Hamptons, cut my dreads off, use a purse, wax my legs, beg for All Star votes, LIKE A BOSH!
Believe the Jaws of Life were used to get Wade out of his bench area and of course the "DWade limp of potential lost limb" came--due to the fact he can avoid criticism for the gag job tonight.
The Gay Biker (not that there's anything wrong with that) had some decent effort/hustle plays for Heat and Dampier actually was their best 4th quarter player tonight.
LeBron is just not the same. Don't know what is going on with him but he isn't the same player he was/should be. He's been "Heat-ed".
Lamest crowd/arena in NBA came through again with more of the "It's a notoriously late arriving crowd" excrement. The fans would rather go to a Mickey Rourke party then see Heat and that is #epicly--NOT winning as opposed to #WINNING!
Is there anyway the Magic can trade that little dwarf Jameer Nelson to Heat-he'd fit in perfectly with his ignorant play. Guy did nothing to help team get to Finals--SVG plays him-they get doors blown off them--and he rides with this awful decision making guard who lives for the "hero" shot and makes very few. Tonight he got Heat back in game with: stupid fouls, playing out of control--wait for your teammate to actually set the pick, going 1 on 1 as he does so often to poor results, bricking FT's, trying to make stupid steals, and just make awful decisions that keep teams in games--kind of like last Heat-Magic game I saw where he got ejected with Magic leading under a minute left. Complete rube.
Best thing about Bosh--Heat will want to trade him this offseason and NOBODY will want him-nor should they. He's a poser who doesn't care about basketball, winning, or anything other then making his last name famous for being in NBA. He'd rather be a "celeb" then a player. He, like LeBron thought everyone would move aside and give them a title--and know they say differently but it's not how they act on court. If Heat get Haslem back for Playoffs-and knowing he won't be sharp after sitting so long--they've got to play him ahead of Bosh late. Bosh just wants to pick up other ladyboys down in South Beach, so let him. He'd be a great towel waver.
BTW--his crying tonight after a regular season loss that he contributed to as one of the biggest wimps ever--goes up there with his primal scream of joy during the Championship....ugh,,,, I mean the "intro of big 3" tiger blood fest--only they had ladyboy blood instead of tigerblood.
Epic level of hatred about to be unleashed on the entire franchise, and their 100 or so true fans come Playoff time.
Spike the ball down after I choke, cry like a ladyboy at presser, ask for capri sun, beg for forgiveness, LIKE A BOSH!
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 4, 2011 4:15:24 GMT -5
Complete implosion by the Heat tonight - Big Three have realized their mistake and play accordingly when their opponent punches them in the mouth - Spo might figure out but he doesn't have the resume to command their attention.
If they go quietly in the playoffs, Riley will swallow his pride, declare failure and deal Bosh or LeBron (who's beginning to look like Dominique Wilkins II) if the price is right - would not be surprised to see LeBron end up in Dallas.
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Post by RDF on Mar 4, 2011 11:50:31 GMT -5
Good luck moving Bosh-he's a clown. Why would a team want to help the Heat out? Who would see bosh as a major part of a championship team? He's a ladyboy.
Lebron to Mavs for who exactly......? I think Heat will keep him unless league just flat out tells them-he's gotta go due to apathetic fanbase. Still can't get over the fact these guys have to beg fans to come to games on time/create a "home atmosphere". All time FAIL.
Talk about a franchise that lacks tiger blood and Adonis DNA--it's the Heat or as they are now to be known-the SHEat.
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