Anthony Perry Discussion (moved)

[mfrekko]

Trust me, JTIII will never forget that Henry is 6'10" because he played like he was 6'1" his first two years.

To this point, he's been a huge bust. Biggest since Anthony Perry?

[Highsmith]

Anthony Perry had a much better career than Henry so far......and that's not saying a lot.

[mfrekko]

It is true that Anthony Perry had a decent impact as a freshman, but my recollection is that his career arc was one of a downward spiral, getting more and more tenative and insecure as seasons progressed, to the point when he was relegated to spot bench duty as a senior.

I think Perry's career was a bigger bust because he came in with higher expectations than Sims - he was a Top 5 recruit and a McD AA. Sims was ranked in the 30-50 range - and althought the floor was pretty low, I think Sims did show some signs of improvement last year. If he continues to improve, he'll be able to help the team this year and next.

Let's hope this becomes a moot point as Henry explodes this year with an unleashing of ferocity not seen since the days of Irwin, Blue, Fenlon, and Bullis!!!!

[BigmanU]

It is true that Anthony Perry had a decent impact as a freshman, but my recollection is that his career arc was one of a downward spiral, getting more and more tenative and insecure as seasons progressed, to the point when he was relegated to spot bench duty as a senior.

IIRC Perry never found his stroke. His first year 99' (Soph) it was just him and Braswell (Fresh) carrying the load after a terrible 98' Season with a depleted roster. He was a volume shooter with a terrible FG%. Hunter arrived the following year 00' and like you said Perry slowly seemed to spiral downward. He never regained the form he had in High School after sitting out the 98' (Fresh) season.

[williambraskyiii]

Sept 30, 2010 10:47:29 GMT -5 BigmanU said:

It is true that Anthony Perry had a decent impact as a freshman, but my recollection is that his career arc was one of a downward spiral, getting more and more tenative and insecure as seasons progressed, to the point when he was relegated to spot bench duty as a senior.

IIRC Perry never found his stroke. His first year 99' (Soph) it was just him and Braswell (Fresh) carrying the load after a terrible 98' Season with a depleted roster. He was a volume shooter with a terrible FG%. Hunter arrived the following year 00' and like you said Perry slowly seemed to spiral downward. He never regained the form he had in High School after sitting out the 98' (Fresh) season.

Just threw up in my mouth.

Williambraskyiii (CAS '01).

[DFW HOYA]

Anthony Perry gets a bad rap from people owing to the idea that his career was a disaster, which it wasn't.

Aside from the Clearinghouse and a wrist injury that didn't get a lot of coverage, Perry finished with a 9.5 point average. Had he played his freshman year, he would have finished somewhere between Jonathan Wallace and Joey Brown in the career points totals.

Perry achieved his best efforts under the elder Thompson, but Craig Esherick was a fan of Kevin Braswell and the offense soon was built around Braswell, not Perry. The deemphasis of Perry between 1998-99 and 2000-01 was noticeable.

Perry's shooting numbers were not great but how did they compare to Braswell? Very close, exc. that Braswell took a LOT more shots.

FG%, 1998-01:
Perry: 33.8, 34.7, 41.1
Braswell: 33.5, 36.8, 37.8

3FG%:
Perry: 33.2, 28.7, 35.8
Braswell: 31.5, 29.7, 30.2

Min. per Game:
Perry: 34.6, 25.9, 17.4
Braswell: 33.6, 33.4, 31.5

If the elder Thompson was coaching through 2001, Perry would have been the brighter star, not Braswell.

[BigmanU]

Sept 30, 2010 12:30:02 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Anthony Perry gets a bad rap from people owing to the idea that his career was a disaster, which it wasn't.

Aside from the Clearinghouse and a wrist injury that didn't get a lot of coverage, Perry finished with a 9.5 point average. Had he played his freshman year, he would have finished somewhere between Jonathan Wallace and Joey Brown in the career points totals.

Perry achieved his best efforts under the elder Thompson, but Craig Esherick was a fan of Kevin Braswell and the offense soon was built around Braswell, not Perry. The deemphasis of Perry between 1998-99 and 2000-01 was noticeable.

Perry's shooting numbers were not great but how did they compare to Braswell? Very close, exc. that Braswell took a LOT more shots.

FG%, 1998-01:
Perry: 33.8, 34.7, 41.1
Braswell: 33.5, 36.8, 37.8

3FG%:
Perry: 33.2, 28.7, 35.8
Braswell: 31.5, 29.7, 30.2

Min. per Game:
Perry: 34.6, 25.9, 17.4
Braswell: 33.6, 33.4, 31.5

If the elder Thompson was coaching through 2001, Perry would have been the brighter star, not Braswell.

I have to disagree. I beleive he may have been on equal footing. Braswell was the only PG on the roster. His competition was Hunter not Braswell. Perry became very tentative his last two years. He was a two guard that couldn't shoot. Passed very little and had more turnovers than assists. Take away his first year (Soph) he scored less than 8 points per game his Jr & Sr seasons. He was the #1 option his Sophmore year and #2 his Junior year (after Braswell) after being I believe the #5 recruit in the country.

I will never call him a bust (he played for my team) I just expected more. I remember when I heard he committed I had visions of a 98' season with him and a Junior Victor Page as a nice One/Two punch with Senior Jahidi White patrolling the paint. Never came to fruition in all cases.

White broke his (foot???)
Page left school right after 97' NCAA tourney
Perry was not eligible his freshman year

[SFHoya99]

The thing that always surprised me about Perry was that he wasn't nearly the shooter I expected him to be.

It was fairly obvious from the first time I saw him that he wasn't going to dominate -- he was one of those guys whose physical tools were no longer special at the college level. So I kind of expected him to be more skilled. But he wasn't an elite shooter, either.

Braswell was a do-everything PG in the sense that he was going to dominate the ball all the time -- I'm not sure coaching would have changed that. Perry would have gotten more minutes under the Elder Thompson, I think, but the teams would have stayed mediocre at best. You can't have your top scorers shooting under 40% and win, even with a JT, Jr. defense.

Perry wasn't a bust, and I don't think he hit his potential. But he also didn't have even Victor Page-level talent. Demetrius Hunter was more physically talented as well.

[SirSaxa]

While SF's point that the team would have been mediocre regardless of the coach is true, I agree with DFW' assessment of Perry. -- Although, I thought he had an ankle injury? I seem to recall JT saying it impeded his explosiveness for a time. Can't swear to that memory though.

I have stated on this board that I am convinced Perry was badly mishandled by Esh -- because of what I saw with my own eyes, and because of some things I heard at the time. Clearly, Esh had a man-crush on Braswell. IMHO, it was to the detriment of team development and effectiveness.

Still, Perry was ranked #5 by at least one major service. No way did his career live up to that lofty standard regardless of the reasons. On the other hand, he wasn't a bust either. And, I believe he graduated too.

[BigmanU]

Sept 30, 2010 14:13:44 GMT -5 SirSaxa said:

While SF's point that the team would have been mediocre regardless of the coach is true, I agree with DFW' assessment of Perry. -- Although, I thought he had an ankle injury? I seem to recall JT saying it impeded his explosiveness for a time. Can't swear to that memory though.

I have stated on this board that I am convinced Perry was badly mishandled by Esh -- because of what I saw with my own eyes, and because of some things I heard at the time. Clearly, Esh had a man-crush on Braswell. IMHO, it was to the detriment of team development and effectiveness.

Still, Perry was ranked #5 by at least one major service. No way did his career live up to that lofty standard regardless of the reasons. On the other hand, he wasn't a bust either. And, I believe he graduated too.

You are correct on both fronts about Perry's bad ankle and Esherick was just had a thing for Braswell since the time he arrived at the Hilltop. Speaking with Kevin while he was here he even mentioned this to me. Mishandled, please explain??? PM if necessary.

[HoyaChris]

While I too was frustrated by his lack of offense, Anthony deserves real credit for not ever letting his offensive problems impact his defense. I believe that he was one of the Hoyas most underated quality defenders.

[rambis]

I'll never forget Perry shutting down Stevie Francis in the Kenner League. That game was a hell of a matchup.

[mfrekko]

If Anfernee Perry isn't the quintessential Hoya recruiting bust then I don't know what one is. Dood did not even start as a senior and he was rated as the TOP highschool guard coming out of St. Anthony's in his graduating class. How is that not a bust career???

You can all cite to reasons why he did not develop, e.g., NCAA Clearinghouse, Braswell's emergence, coaching changes/deficiencies, ankle/wrist injury, etc. Indeed, each reason very likely contributed to his disappointing career. But none of the reasons erases his disappointing career. Dood could not start and he was Parade AA, McD AA, Top 5, etc.

I still remember watching him play as a sophomore, stunned how a guard could come in with all those high school accolades and not be able to dribble proficiently at the college level. And then he got worse as a junior. And then he got benched as a senior.

Duane Spencer might come close. Anthony Jones was a disappointment (but did play well later at UNLV). Othella, for all of his lofty expectations, probably underachieved expectation, especially with the arrival of Iverson and Page.

But, when I compare Perry's ranking/expectation to his college production/impact, I think he was the bustiest of the Hoya busties.

[daytonahoya31]

I agree with ranch on Perry

Disagree on Othella...he wasn't a bust at all

[prhoya]

Of the highest ranked players recruited by GU, I would agree that Perry is the biggest disappointment, not bust. I remember the hype surrounding his recruitment, so close to AI's time. Every year I would be expecting a big leap from the previous O.K. year. Instead, the feeling by the end of his junior year was that he didn't have it in him. Maybe Esh gave up on him and focused his man-attraction on KB.

Othella wasn't a bust, but back to AP...

[mfrekko]

Totally agree that Othella was not a bust. I just think he didn't live up to the #1 HS recruit label. We had gotten spoiled with Ewing and Mourning. Othella had a very, very solid career, and lost scoring opportunities in his last two seasons with the arrival of superstar Iverson and freakish athlete Page.

Although not an official statistic, I am quite certain that Othella is the Hoyas career leader in pump fakes.

[BigmanU]

Othella was no where near a bust. He had a very productive career. He came in with alot of hype and followed right behind Alonzo. He carried the burden of keeping the great Georgetown bigman tradition going from Ewing, Dikembe, & Zo. Tough shoes to fill.

[DFW HOYA]

I don't think there are any true "busts" through the years, though Vernon Macklin and Milton Bell probably come the closest.

Injuries had a part in holding Perry back (a wrist injury is lethal to a guard--ask Matt Causey). Injuries also affected the potential of Michael Tate and to a lesser extent, Johnathan Edwards, both highly ranked Parade A-A recipients.

[mfrekko]

Sam Jefferson.