geedell
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Post by geedell on Apr 11, 2011 22:19:35 GMT -5
may mean something...may not mean anything, but he's no longer following kim english or thomas robinson
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 11, 2011 22:22:05 GMT -5
Would selby's entering the draft have any impact on porter's decision to attend Kansas?
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KirbyKeger
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Post by KirbyKeger on Apr 11, 2011 22:30:14 GMT -5
What's going on? I mean, do we have legitimate reason to get excited here? Somebody help me out...
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guru
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Post by guru on Apr 11, 2011 22:31:52 GMT -5
What's going on? I mean, do we have legitimate reason to get excited here? Somebody help me out... Not really. Not yet.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 11, 2011 22:36:29 GMT -5
yeah by now we should have all learned not to get excited until they sign on the line that is dotted.
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Apr 11, 2011 22:44:48 GMT -5
Even less reliable, but according to the Kansas board Ottos Uncle said he loved his Gtown visit and is planning on announcing in the next few days for them(us). Gotta love recruiting. I now fully expect him to cancel his Kansas visit and end up at Villanova somehow.
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Apr 11, 2011 22:46:09 GMT -5
I now fully expect him to cancel his Kansas visit and end up at Villanova somehow. ;D
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Post by rustyshackleford on Apr 11, 2011 22:50:54 GMT -5
I now fully expect him to cancel his Kansas visit and end up at Villanova somehow. ;D this isn't even funny...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 11, 2011 23:01:36 GMT -5
too soon?
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Apr 11, 2011 23:03:20 GMT -5
now his twitter page is gone completely.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Apr 11, 2011 23:05:13 GMT -5
smart lad.
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Post by wahoohoya on Apr 12, 2011 7:18:04 GMT -5
All this Internet chatter is amusing. Would be a major bummer if this doesn't happen. But I guess nothing would be announced until our scholly situation is resolved.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 12, 2011 7:52:12 GMT -5
not necessarily. Schools are over the limit all the time in terms of committed recruits. Currently Pitt is 1 over for next year. That can be resolved by Gibbs staying in the draft or someone transferring but something has to give. Louisville is currently 3 over for next year. Not sure how they're going to resolve all that, but they clearly didn't wait for transfers to be announced before signing their 5 person recruiting class despite only having 2 spots open.
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Post by jld54 on Apr 12, 2011 8:26:39 GMT -5
While it looks like a decision may be imminent, and we have good shot at landing Otto, lets not jump the gun. This has been a very quiet recruitment as the family seems to be controlling things as opposed to AAU handlers and the like, who often leak information to favored outlets. I felt that we had a good shot once Anderson left Mizz.
Also, win or lose on Otto, it is clear that JT3 has realized what needs to be done talent-wise and size-wise to compete at a high level. In retrospect, this year's team was limited athletically, with a 6'3" SF in Austin, a 2G without a handle in Clark, and a physically limited center in Julian, who tried hard but seemed to wear out at the end of the year.
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swhoya
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Post by swhoya on Apr 12, 2011 8:40:46 GMT -5
Also, win or lose on Otto, it is clear that JT3 has realized what needs to be done talent-wise and size-wise to compete at a high level. In retrospect, this year's team was limited athletically, with a 6'3" SF in Austin, a 2G without a handle in Clark, and a physically limited center in Julian, who tried hard but seemed to wear out at the end of the year. I've seen this comment several times about JTIII suddenly "realizing" what we need. Like it never occurred to him before (I mean, it must be because people on this board told him!). As if he has absolute control over which players come here and which don't. The fact is that we get to view and criticize with 20/20 vision. Could III have foreseen that Clark wouldn't develop a handle? That Julian, who was Virginia Mr. Basketball, would never really develop at all? It would have been nice to have AF playing at the 2, but we just didn't have the personnel for it. It would be one thing to say "I'm glad that it looks like III will finally get the talent/type of player he needs." That's valid. But come on, like he wouldn't have liked to have gotten that sort of talent/player before. Whether that's entirely his fault is another matter (my opinion is that he certainly shares some blame; how could he not? But he can't control where the recruits go--they ultimately decide that).
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 12, 2011 8:51:11 GMT -5
Here is the problem with what you are saying.....why did he recruit the Russian, Wattad, Benny and Vee? Those kids are not major D1 players. Bronxitos could see that from the first game they played why couldn't he? If you are going to take a flyer on a guy make sure he is athletic or big. If Moses does not pan out Bronxitos is ok with that....but if your 6'5 power forward does not pan out that is a major problem. JT3 got caught up in his own hype and the Princeton offense. He thought he could take marginal guys and they could thrive in his system in some capacity. He was proven wrong and he has adjusted accordingly. Kudos to JT3 and staff for recognizing their folly. In the end talent usually wins out more times than not. Also, win or lose on Otto, it is clear that JT3 has realized what needs to be done talent-wise and size-wise to compete at a high level. In retrospect, this year's team was limited athletically, with a 6'3" SF in Austin, a 2G without a handle in Clark, and a physically limited center in Julian, who tried hard but seemed to wear out at the end of the year. I've seen this comment several times about JTIII suddenly "realizing" what we need. Like it never occurred to him before (I mean, it must be because people on this board told him!). As if he has absolute control over which players come here and which don't. The fact is that we get to view and criticize with 20/20 vision. Could III have foreseen that Clark wouldn't develop a handle? That Julian, who was Virginia Mr. Basketball, would never really develop at all? It would have been nice to have AF playing at the 2, but we just didn't have the personnel for it. It would be one thing to say "I'm glad that it looks like III will finally get the talent/type of player he needs." That's valid. But come on, like he wouldn't have liked to have gotten that sort of talent/player before. Whether that's entirely his fault is another matter (my opinion is that he certainly shares some blame; how could he not? But he can't control where the recruits go--they ultimately decide that).
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 12, 2011 8:58:57 GMT -5
Here is the problem with what you are saying.....why did he recruit the Russian, Wattad, Benny and Vee? Those kids are not major D1 players. Bronxitos could see that from the first game they played why couldn't he? If you are going to take a flyer on a guy make sure he is athletic or big. If Moses does not pan out Bronxitos is ok with that....but if your 6'5 power forward does not pan out that is a major problem. JT3 got caught up in his own hype and the Princeton offense. He thought he could take marginal guys and they could thrive in his system in some capacity. He was proven wrong and he has adjusted accordingly. Kudos to JT3 and staff for recognizing their folly. In the end talent usually wins out more times than not. I've seen this comment several times about JTIII suddenly "realizing" what we need. Like it never occurred to him before (I mean, it must be because people on this board told him!). As if he has absolute control over which players come here and which don't. The fact is that we get to view and criticize with 20/20 vision. Could III have foreseen that Clark wouldn't develop a handle? That Julian, who was Virginia Mr. Basketball, would never really develop at all? It would have been nice to have AF playing at the 2, but we just didn't have the personnel for it. It would be one thing to say "I'm glad that it looks like III will finally get the talent/type of player he needs." That's valid. But come on, like he wouldn't have liked to have gotten that sort of talent/player before. Whether that's entirely his fault is another matter (my opinion is that he certainly shares some blame; how could he not? But he can't control where the recruits go--they ultimately decide that). I agree "the Russian," Wattad, and "Benny" should never have been recruited to a major D1 program like ours. But how on Earth can you put Vee in that category? The dude shot 60% from 3 (12/20). Granted, his minutes have been limited, but I DO NOT think that's a reflection of his skill. He's also been a strong defender. Bash the first three all you want. I'd throw Tay and Rivers in there, too. But Vee is better than that.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 12, 2011 8:59:55 GMT -5
Otto has received a few congrats on his facebook page in the last few hours......
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 12, 2011 9:01:56 GMT -5
JT3 does not believe in Vee this is obvious. He sees him in practice (yes we talkin bout practice) everyday unlike tu y yo. The fact that he let the drunken dribbler Clark run the point before Vee tells you all you need to know. Bronxitos will bash away on Rivers' offensive game all day but his defense was second to none. Here is the problem with what you are saying.....why did he recruit the Russian, Wattad, Benny and Vee? Those kids are not major D1 players. Bronxitos could see that from the first game they played why couldn't he? If you are going to take a flyer on a guy make sure he is athletic or big. If Moses does not pan out Bronxitos is ok with that....but if your 6'5 power forward does not pan out that is a major problem. JT3 got caught up in his own hype and the Princeton offense. He thought he could take marginal guys and they could thrive in his system in some capacity. He was proven wrong and he has adjusted accordingly. Kudos to JT3 and staff for recognizing their folly. In the end talent usually wins out more times than not. I agree "the Russian," Wattad, and "Benny" should never have been recruited to a major D1 program like ours. But how on Earth can you put Vee in that category? The dude shot over 60% from 3. Granted, his minutes have been limited, but I DO NOT think that's a reflection of his skill. He's also been a strong defender. Bash the first three all you want. I'd throw Tay and Rivers in there, too. But Vee is better than that.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 12, 2011 9:03:01 GMT -5
yeah by now we should have all learned not to get excited until they sign on the line that is dotted. You know better, HSB - we get overexcited if a 10th grader wears a Georgetown T-shirt to school.
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