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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 31, 2011 23:17:36 GMT -5
you can have partial scholarships yes....but not common in bball i wouldnt think
writings on the wall lic....someone's clearly gone
Div. I schools are restricted to 13 "counters" (e.g., people who have been recruited). A team can have only 13 recruited players on the team, regardless of aid offered.--Admin
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 1, 2011 9:06:39 GMT -5
Get this loser talk of this forum. You think this kid cares about Danny Manning? This guy was not born in 1988 when Danny was king. We have been on him longer and his dad has ties to Kirby. It is not enough recruit and lose, time to win some coveted kids. He is guaranteed early playing time here. At KU he is just another cog in the wheel. Good job by the staff if Otto actually makes it to campus. That said, Danny Manning is his lead recruiter for KU and KU has playing time/more recent success to offer Porter. I'd still put my money on the Jayhawks but exciting that Porter may actually make it for a visit to the Hilltop. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 1, 2011 9:36:37 GMT -5
Good job by the staff if Otto actually makes it to campus. That said, Danny Manning is his lead recruiter for KU and KU has playing time/more recent success to offer Porter. I'd still put my money on the Jayhawks but exciting that Porter may actually make it for a visit to the Hilltop. If the Morris boys come back, Otto would be cemented to the pine out in little old Lawrence; he could earn plenty of PT in the big city and enhance his pro chances by signing with the Hoyas. Let's not make it sound like we have no chance with this young man. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 1, 2011 9:40:06 GMT -5
plus we did just beat out kansas for mikael hopkins in this same class. Let's not act like kansas is un beatable on the recruiting trail. In fact this year they've struggled terribly on the recruiting trail.
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Post by alleninxis on Apr 1, 2011 9:40:27 GMT -5
I think it just comes down to location. if he's comfortable being away from home, I think we have the inside track at this point.
if he wants to stay close to home, that's what he'll do.
III/Kirby absolutely can go head to head with Kansas and beat them.
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Post by damnhoya on Apr 1, 2011 10:44:48 GMT -5
This April fools' joke would have hurt our recruitment of Otto: espnsportsgo.tumblr.com/I agree, a lot depends on location but moving parts will also play a big role. Depends how many players are leaving KU for the NBA and whether KU lands DeAndre Daniels (similar skill set). |
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Post by bergerhoya on Apr 1, 2011 11:02:07 GMT -5
So Kansas, a storied program close to Porter's home has a ton of open scholarships with significant playing time available, and Georgetown, a good program that is hundreds of miles away and has zero available scholarships...I think we have this one in the bag...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 1, 2011 11:22:23 GMT -5
So Kansas, a storied program close to Porter's home has a ton of open scholarships with significant playing time available, and Georgetown, a good program that is hundreds of miles away and has zero available scholarships...I think we have this one in the bag... You are presuming, of course, that the Morris brothers leave; if not they return 4 forwards guards who averaged 38, 38, 33 and 26 minutes. Not to mention whoever else they may have coming in. I don't think anyone has characterized this as a "lock" for GU, but if the distance does not turn out to be the deciding factor, and IF we have 1 or 2 players whom the staff may know to be going, don't know why we would not have a pretty good chance. |
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Post by bergerhoya on Apr 1, 2011 11:37:32 GMT -5
So Kansas, a storied program close to Porter's home has a ton of open scholarships with significant playing time available, and Georgetown, a good program that is hundreds of miles away and has zero available scholarships...I think we have this one in the bag... You are presuming, of course, that the Morris brothers leave; if not they return 4 forwards guards who averaged 38, 38, 33 and 26 minutes. Not to mention whoever else they may have coming in. I don't think anyone has characterized this as a "lock" for GU, but if the distance does not turn out to be the deciding factor, and IF we have 1 or 2 players whom the staff may know to be going, don't know why we would not have a pretty good chance. First off, they don't have a single player who averaged more than 29 minutes a game, so I don't know what you're talking about. Secondly, they are graduating Tyrel Reed, Brady Morningstar, and Mario Little, all of whom shared time at the "3" for them (I put 3 in quotes, because they played the whole season without a true small forward). Additionally, I think most experts would be shocked if at least one of their front court underclassmen (Marcus, Markiff, or Robinson) doesn't declare for the draft. There is no question that they will have the scholarships and the immediate playing time for someone like Porter. The transfer issues is always an unknown, but if we lose anyone to transfer outside of one particular player, it probably wouldn't be good for the team. I think our chances aren't as great as we think. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 1, 2011 11:49:19 GMT -5
Sorry, I was reading a stats chart that had the games played and minutes played categories switched. If the Morrises go. obviously there will be minutes, but not necessarily a done deal. I just think that the fact that we have been on this kid alot longer than Kansas may count for something in the end, but there is certainly no guarantee that we will get him.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 1, 2011 11:58:13 GMT -5
Does he want to go to Kansas after potentially all those defections and be on a sucky team? Next year at Gtown he could be a part of a young team that should go 10 deep with quality. By his sophomore year if we land a stud in the 2012 class we could potentially be a great team.
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Post by idhoya on Apr 1, 2011 12:06:30 GMT -5
Kansas coming in late hurts them, imo. Doesn't mean he won't go there, just think Hoyas having been on him seemingly forever helps.
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Post by nathanhm on Apr 1, 2011 12:10:40 GMT -5
I don't know why you guys are trying to out-debate each other on if we have a good shot our not based on the things you think he might care about for committing to a school. He's not going to commit/not commit based on a debate on a message board.
Right now he's visiting us so we have a shot, how big or small is really an unknown right now and doesn't matter. We could have a great shot and still lose or a small shot and end up pulling it out in the end.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 1, 2011 12:14:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately we have nothing better to do with our lives.  |
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Post by nathanhm on Apr 1, 2011 12:20:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately we have nothing better to do with our lives. lol, fair enough.....I want to find out one way or the other too! I'm just hoping Porter or Henry pop for us soon. Then we can go crazy figuring out if were getting a new guard, who he is, and if we have a High/Med/Low shot securing him against the other schools were competing against. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 1, 2011 12:22:21 GMT -5
Would we take Henry and Porter both?
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Post by chep3 on Apr 1, 2011 12:34:04 GMT -5
Would we take Henry and Porter both? We shouldn't. If we got Henry, Porter, and Whittington we'd have a glut of wings. If we are going to sign 2 more players, 1 of them must be a pg. If we sign 1 more player, it still maybe should be a pg. I know no one likes the two in the bush idea, but I would think if we are looking to sign 2 players (and especially 2 wings), we would take 1 of these two if possible and try and get a Kyle Anderson or a pg after that. I don't see the need in having 3 SF's behind Hollis. |
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Post by RDF on Apr 1, 2011 12:37:09 GMT -5
I'm guessing either/or is what Georgetown will do in regards to Porter and Henry.
Can't be taken seriously until someone visits the campus and if/when Porter does that--then Hoyas have a shot--and will definately know how he feels about being away from home--not to mention him playing in Jordan Brand game will give him more time away from home and seeing how it feels for him. Never know--maybe he loves it--or hates it--but until he does it--nobody can say they have a feel for recruitment.
As for "late/early"-Hoyas have gotten in on kids late--and signed them--it happens. Just depends on fit/feel and how the kid views things for his decision. Not going to bash Kansas, Missouri, etc....they are great options/programs and as a Hoya fan, of course I hope he ends up in DC-but just going to wait/see how it plays out--because trashing another option isn't going to help the cause. It's HIS life-not ours.
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 1, 2011 12:44:55 GMT -5
I'm guessing either/or is what Georgetown will do in regards to Porter and Henry. Can't be taken seriously until someone visits the campus and if/when Porter does that--then Hoyas have a shot--and will definately know how he feels about being away from home--not to mention him playing in Jordan Brand game will give him more time away from home and seeing how it feels for him. Never know--maybe he loves it--or hates it--but until he does it--nobody can say they have a feel for recruitment. As for "late/early"-Hoyas have gotten in on kids late--and signed them--it happens. Just depends on fit/feel and how the kid views things for his decision. Not going to bash Kansas, Missouri, etc....they are great options/programs and as a Hoya fan, of course I hope he ends up in DC-but just going to wait/see how it plays out--because trashing another option isn't going to help the cause. It's HIS life-not ours. Agree with the above. Porter needs to get to GU and see how it feels. Coaching Staff is important, but so are the other kids on the team. Like all recruits, he'll want to feel comfortable with his future teammates since they are the kids he'll be spending most of his time with. As for our chances, well... assuming he visits this weekend as reported, and given the coaching change at Mizzou, whatever our chances may be they are better than they were a few weeks ago. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 1, 2011 13:11:31 GMT -5
The Kyle Anderson thing is not happening. Other people may want him to come but Bronxitos gets the feeling he is not so anxious to come here. Plus he does not seem like a Gtown player to me.
We can get by on what we have in the back court for the next 2 years we need a low post scorer that demands a double team and someone who can get us 8-10 rebounds a game on a nightly basis. I still do not think that player is on the team or will be on the team this summer.
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