SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 28, 2010 16:27:52 GMT -5
The Rose Bowl will try to keep a B10 P10 matchup. So despite their issues, i bet Stanford goes there.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Nov 28, 2010 17:53:00 GMT -5
The Rose Bowl will try to keep a B10 P10 matchup. So despite their issues, i bet Stanford goes there. The only way that can happen is if TCU can manage to jump Auburn in the BCS standings next week. "For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl. " Assuming Oregon beats Oregon State and Auburn beats USC, the Rose Bowl will be forced to take TCU.
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Post by RDF on Nov 28, 2010 18:30:00 GMT -5
Stanford would get screwed just like USC got screwed in '03 (when ChokeLahoma prevented them playing LSU), just like Oregon got screwed in '01 (a Nebraska team that didn't even win their division made Rose Bowl because they needed fans to fill Rose Bowl knowing Miami doesn't have enough fan support) and you know they wanted to do anything possible to prevent Stanford from getting in. Pac 10 gets screwed royally and it's a joke!!
By the way--notice what league always seems to benefit from the "system"? For all the talk of the $EC getting beneficial treatment--at least they have quality teams--the stupid ass Big XII screws this thing up more then any other league and ruins title games--as they have in '01, '03, '04, and '08. If Texas makes it---then it's legit--if it's not them--then it's a FRAUD.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Nov 28, 2010 21:28:23 GMT -5
Stanford's OK so long as they stay top 4. There's a rule (likely post 2003) that says the top 4 get BCS games no matter what.
Would love to see Stanford - Wisconsin, but Pasadena will look awfully good in January no matter what!
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 29, 2010 12:44:22 GMT -5
The Top 4 rule actually goes back to 1999, when Kansas State lost the Big 12 title game, ended up 4th in the BCS, and got to take its talents to the Alamo Bowl (where, as I recall, they not surprisingly laid an egg). So happily, it looks like Stanford will make a BCS bowl. But it won't be the Rose Bowl unless Auburn loses to South Carolina. Oregon has already clinched the Pac 10 Rose Bowl bid if it doesn't make the title game, so if Oregon loses to Oregon State (NOTE: a team that has lost to UCLA and Washington State doesn't figure to beat Oregon, rivalry game or not), we'll see Oregon/Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl, so Stanford will still play elsewhere. Most likely scenario: TCU/Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.
By the way, RDF, while Oklahoma has laid a couple big eggs in title games, they did win one a few years back (much to hifi's pleasure, no doubt), so I wouldn't characterize them as a total fraud.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2010 14:34:52 GMT -5
The Top 4 rule actually goes back to 1999, when Kansas State lost the Big 12 title game, ended up 4th in the BCS, and got to take its talents to the Alamo Bowl (where, as I recall, they not surprisingly laid an egg). So happily, it looks like Stanford will make a BCS bowl. But it won't be the Rose Bowl unless Auburn loses to South Carolina. Oregon has already clinched the Pac 10 Rose Bowl bid if it doesn't make the title game, so if Oregon loses to Oregon State (NOTE: a team that has lost to UCLA and Washington State doesn't figure to beat Oregon, rivalry game or not), we'll see Oregon/Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl, so Stanford will still play elsewhere. Most likely scenario: TCU/Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. By the way, RDF, while Oklahoma has laid a couple big eggs in title games, they did win one a few years back (much to hifi's pleasure, no doubt), so I wouldn't characterize them as a total fraud. Oklahoma won their only BCS title in a game they would've been beaten by 3-4 TD's if they played the team who DESERVED to be there--you know--the Miami team who beat the FSU team on the field of play--had same record with their only loss being to an 11-1 Washington team in 1st game of the year. I'd have had no argument with Washington making it in ahead of Miami since they won the field--but BCS decided their loss came "after" Miami--so it dropped them--but the FSU loss was to Miami--and Hifi won't be so fond of what happened to his team in the Sugar Bowl that year. BCS fouls it up--but OU earned their way that year--just would've gotten their ass handed to them if they played the correct opponent.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2010 14:35:58 GMT -5
BTW--thank goodness Randy "Radio" Shannon is gone.
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Post by hifigator on Nov 29, 2010 14:58:11 GMT -5
rooter wrote:
By the way, RDF, while Oklahoma has laid a couple big eggs in title games, they did win one a few years back (much to hifi's pleasure, no doubt),
Anytime you beat FSU, it's a good thing. Doing it by a 13-2 score, is absolutely hiliarious. Right you are Sir!
RDF wrote:
and Hifi won't be so fond of what happened to his team in the Sugar Bowl that year.
Game? what game? That game didn't matter ... or happen as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 29, 2010 16:41:36 GMT -5
BTW--thank goodness Randy "Radio" Shannon is gone. The local paper in Austin made a crazy prediction that Venables would be hired at the U. No joke but great bait.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 29, 2010 19:16:17 GMT -5
The local paper in Austin made a crazy prediction that Venables would be hired at the U. No joke but great bait. Ain't the only place. RDF's favorite D-coordinator is coming up on a lot of lists because he has ties to Miami's AD Kirby Hocutt. They played together at K-State, and Hocutt was in the Athletic Department at Oklahoma for six years and arrived about the same time Venables did. Makes me wish Proboards had that emoticon that vomits.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 1, 2010 0:44:22 GMT -5
TAMU to the Cotton Bowl. Boone must be fuming. rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-t25-cottonbowl-texasam______________________________________________________ Week 14 Picks for Games That Matter: Arizona State over Arizona in the Duel in the Desert for the Territorial Cup (Thursday) Miami (OH) upsets Northern Illinois in the MAC Championship Game (Friday) SMU over UCF in the C-USA Championship Game Pitt over Cincinnati in the River City Rivalry for the Paddlewheel Trophy Oregon over Oregon State in the Civil War for the Platypus Trophy S. Carolina shocks Auburn in the SEC Championship Game U-Dub over Wazzu in the Apple Cup for the Apple Cup Oklahoma over Nebraska in the Big 8 Championship Game Florida State over Va. Tech in the ACC Championship Game UCLA over SC in the Battle for Los Angeles for the Victory Bell
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 1, 2010 12:59:44 GMT -5
Austin, you need to lay off those funny mushrooms. You made some, err, unusual picks today, but I certainly hope you prove to be correct, particularly about UCLA (but I seriously doubt it).
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 1, 2010 16:21:05 GMT -5
Austin, you need to lay off those funny mushrooms. You made some, err, unusual picks today, but I certainly hope you prove to be correct, particularly about UCLA (but I seriously doubt it). None of them seem strange. FSU looks like a good upset pick, and SC is a pretty good team who barely lost to Auburn once before (and it's hard to beat a team twice in a season). For UCLA/USC - USC lost to Notre Dame, who's not that good. USC has lost two straight, including to Oregon State - decisively, whom UCLA beat. USC has no bowl game to look forward to. Sounds like they checked out.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 1, 2010 22:30:59 GMT -5
That, or their starting QB is out and the guy in isn't very good.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 2, 2010 1:28:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that's more of an anti-Southern Cal pick than a pro-UCLA pick. The AP just asked Kiffin for a reaction to the Cam Newton situation, and he replied that "We’ve scored two touchdowns in two weeks, so I’m not really worried about other people’s issues." The Bruins don't have a potential bowl game to play for either, but I have yet to see SC play inspired football this season. The game's in Pasadena, and the Bruins have played well (for a mediocre team) at home in 2010. ON EDIT: I'm sure everyone has seen the latest on the Cam Newton situation, but if not: sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788Should be just great for the typical sports fan's impression of college football, the SEC, and the idea of an impartial governing body for college sports.
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 2, 2010 8:39:48 GMT -5
Yeah, that's more of an anti-Southern Cal pick than a pro-UCLA pick. The AP just asked Kiffin for a reaction to the Cam Newton situation, and he replied that "We’ve scored two touchdowns in two weeks, so I’m not really worried about other people’s issues." The Bruins don't have a potential bowl game to play for either, but I have yet to see SC play inspired football this season. The game's in Pasadena, and the Bruins have played well (for a mediocre team) at home in 2010. ON EDIT: I'm sure everyone has seen the latest on the Cam Newton situation, but if not: sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788Should be just great for the typical sports fan's impression of college football, the SEC, and the idea of an impartial governing body for college sports. A good column is below. sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5872192&sportCat=ncfI keyed on the "at this time" thing, too: this seems that it's a stopgap measure which says "we haven't found anything yet that involves Cam Newton, so it's not worth suspending him". The good thing is that they've indicated that there is smoke. This acknowledges that there's a problem. The bad thing is that, with the quick response on the violations, they've seemed to sweep them under the rug. I, an incurable optimist, tend to hope that, had this been an offseason investigation, the NCAA wouldn't have released this partial finding until the investigation was completed - and, if they had waited, they would have come down harder on Auburn. This reeks to me of an office tasked to make a quick decision on suspension and only suspension - when they respond "no, not suspension", they ignore the other potential consequences. We'll see. Personally, I think that SEC coaching staffs should now include at least one lawyer. "Yup, Arkansas looks to be the favorite to capture the SEC West next year, but Bo Lucas has had a string of lost court cases, and that could cost them if an eligibility case comes down to the wire".
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Post by hifigator on Dec 2, 2010 13:21:15 GMT -5
Austin wrote: ON EDIT: I'm sure everyone has seen the latest on the Cam Newton situation, but if not:
sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5870788
Should be just great for the typical sports fan's impression of college football, the SEC, and the idea of an impartial governing body for college sports. I'm not going to defend Newton or Auburn a bit. But laying this off on the SEC in general is absurd. If you want to point a finger, then question how in the hell the NCAA managed to have such a ruling so quickly! Aside from questioning the ruling itself, which is dubious for sure, somehow, the institution which took 4 years investigating Reggie Bush and company ... and the same institution which routinely takes 4 or 5 months to make a ruling on a student-athlete's request for an medical hardship when he has clearly been incapacitated for 18 months ... managed to squeeze in this somewhat complicated case in less than 24 hours. Sure ... there's no favoritism being played at all.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 2, 2010 14:01:12 GMT -5
Rumors floating that Greg Davis has been asked to leave. He endeavored to leave his office but ended up 2 yards behind where he started.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 2, 2010 15:04:05 GMT -5
I'm not going to defend Newton or Auburn a bit. But laying this off on the SEC in general is absurd. If you want to point a finger, then question how in the hell the NCAA managed to have such a ruling so quickly! Aside from questioning the ruling itself, which is dubious for sure, somehow, the institution which took 4 years investigating Reggie Bush and company ... and the same institution which routinely takes 4 or 5 months to make a ruling on a student-athlete's request for an medical hardship when he has clearly been incapacitated for 18 months ... managed to squeeze in this somewhat complicated case in less than 24 hours. Sure ... there's no favoritism being played at all. I rather dislike how the other SEC programs appear to be letting Mississippi State carry their water for them to get Auburn taken down. If any of the other programs are still concealing their interactions with CamNewton Enterprises (not affiliated with Cam Newton, an innocent young man), then when the truth is ultimately revealed they should be punished for obstruction and share in Auburn's punishment.
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Post by hoya9797 on Dec 2, 2010 15:08:52 GMT -5
Florida must be nervous that eventually people are going to wonder how much the Newtons got the first time he was on the market.
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