Boz
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Post by Boz on Jun 21, 2010 8:49:48 GMT -5
There really should just be a whole lot more "play ons" than there are, IMO. Soccer is supposed to be a contact sport somewhat after all.
Personally, I think if the referees just ignored the people who are diving more often and just let the opposing team take possession, there'd eventually be a lot less of it. And yes, even ignore them when they're on the field writhing in "pain," as long as they're not in immediate harm's way.
As for the Italy-South Korea match, you can't argue that there wasn't any contact there. Enough for a foul? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. I can understand the difficulty in calling a penalty there, kind of like calling a lame cross check or something in OT of the Stanley Cup playoffs. But you don't have to go all the way in the other direction and pull out a yellow for that. If you thought it was just incidental contact and not a foul -- and I can go along with that -- then just let the South Koreans play on. And if Totti keeps getting in your face and screaming at you for it, well, then you can book him for dissent if you want.
I do think that soccer referees have a very tough job. That is why it only really ticks me off when they miss the easy stuff, like yesterday's blatant double handball by Brazil.
The sport could definitely use another on-field ref, maybe two, one for each box. Because in yesterday's Italy-New Zealand match, that was a foul. Sorry, but it was. But it probably doesn't get called unless Di Rossi falls down after getting grabbed. And yes, he did dive to call attention to it. More officials would eliminate the need for that. A goal ref could call the foul and then maybe also book Di Rossi for diving.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jun 21, 2010 13:54:44 GMT -5
Yellow card caution for: "Any simulating action anywhere on the field which is intended to deceive the referee." is the official rule.....
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jun 21, 2010 16:11:23 GMT -5
Alexi Lalas = Bill Walton???
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jun 21, 2010 18:09:03 GMT -5
here you can get a look at an Italian training session on the subject....
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 8:59:17 GMT -5
now the real fun begins! Elimination time!
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Post by Boz on Jun 22, 2010 9:25:53 GMT -5
Did another handball goal just go unnoticed? My screen was kind of fuzzy but it sure as hell looked like it went off the South African player's bicep and came nowhere near his head. Well, I suppose since the surrender monkeys were the victims this time, maybe I don't mind so much.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 22, 2010 9:30:42 GMT -5
aaaaaand there goes the french
EDIT looks like they are waving the white flag already, too bad they have the firepower to come back even a man down
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jun 22, 2010 9:46:09 GMT -5
Looks like we may have a GF/GA race unfolding with South Africa hanging 2 goals on France already and Uruguay ahead of Mexico 1-0. A 3 goal margin for South Africa and 2 goal margin in the Uruguay game, I think, would do it.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 9:49:17 GMT -5
woow south africa needed a miracle to have a chance to advance, and right now they're well on their way.
Right now Mexico is +1 GD and SA is -1 if uruguay can score once more and south africa can score once more the hosts will advance!
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Post by Boz on Jun 22, 2010 9:50:38 GMT -5
Would be awesome if Mexico got bounced too, with South Africa doing so well, and El Tri now losing.
I think the South Africans would need to win by one more and Mexico would have to go down 0-2 for that to happen. I think South Africa would advance on total goals scored in that case. (Or, Mexico could get blown out 0-4, but I don't think that will happen).
Do I have that right? I'm not sure.
Alexi Lalas: "In the US, you have to root for the other CONCACAF teams like Mexico."
Me: "Ummm, no I don't."
(EDIT: looks like you guys beat me to it)
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 9:52:45 GMT -5
and boz it wasn't a handball us watching on big screen tvs can see it was off his head.
south africa can also advance if they score 2 more goals and the uruguay results hold.
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Post by Boz on Jun 22, 2010 9:57:28 GMT -5
and boz it wasn't a handball us watching on big screen tvs can see it was off his head. south africa can also advance if they score 2 more goals and the uruguay results hold. Fair enough. I couldn't be sure. The video on ESPN3 has been generally good, but it just chose that minute to go all pixel-y on me.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jun 22, 2010 9:57:39 GMT -5
woow south africa needed a miracle to have a chance to advance, and right now they're well on their way. Right now Mexico is +1 GD and SA is -1 if uruguay can score once more and south africa can score once more the hosts will advance! And the French surrender monkeys are a man down...RSA could also score 2 in the second half to achieve the same result if the Mexico/Uruguay score holds.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Jun 22, 2010 10:14:08 GMT -5
I think the South Africans would need to win by one more and Mexico would have to go down 0-2 for that to happen. I think South Africa would advance on total goals scored in that case. (Or, Mexico could get blown out 0-4, but I don't think that will happen). Do I have that right? I'm not sure. Actually, I think the former would result in a GD tie between RSA and Mexico, which Mexico would win on GF. South Africa really needs to score two more on its own I think.
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Post by Boz on Jun 22, 2010 10:20:07 GMT -5
Math is not my strong suit.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 10:54:57 GMT -5
oh well. At least the hosts beat france.
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Post by The Stig on Jun 22, 2010 11:03:39 GMT -5
South Africa made it interesting for a while. It's sad to see them go out, especially after how they played in the first half.
Their game with France was fairly pleasant to watch. Not a lot of diving or whining, and players only writhed on the ground when they were really injured. It was the complete opposite of the Mexico-Uruguay game, at least the parts that I saw.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 13:46:03 GMT -5
SO nigeria takes a 1-0 lead. After losing their first two games all they need to advance is to hold on to the 1-0 lead and for argentina to win 1-0. Greece south korea and nigeria would all be tied with 3pts but nigeria would be-1 and the other 2 would be -2. let's go nieria!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 14:10:07 GMT -5
ugh koreans equalize ona complete defensive lapse. need to score again and still need argentina to beat greece. if results stand in nigeria match greece needs to beat argentina to advance.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 22, 2010 14:17:55 GMT -5
Is there a reason you're rooting for Nigeria? Just because the WC is on the same continent or some other reason?
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