MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 21, 2010 20:34:58 GMT -5
Much of the talk on the interwebs is that greg actually didn't have a bad work out at GS and that rumors of a bad workout is just smoke beign thrown up by GS. Glad to hear but could you point me in the direction of one of those interweb talks?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 21, 2010 21:35:38 GMT -5
forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1005014&start=1455"Steve in Chicago, IL: You think Monroe tanked his Warrior workout in hopes they pass on him? Then he could land in Sacto at 7 after they trade down with Pistons. Alex Kennedy: There was a report that Monroe tanked the workout but everything I have heard said just the opposite. I heard it went well and the source I talked to had no idea where that came from. Also, if Sacramento trades down I think they're going lower than seven. They're looking at players projected in the late teens and early twenties this Wednesday." That was the only link i could remember, but i saw it another place too.
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Post by RDF on Jun 22, 2010 0:17:18 GMT -5
forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1005014&start=1455"Steve in Chicago, IL: You think Monroe tanked his Warrior workout in hopes they pass on him? Then he could land in Sacto at 7 after they trade down with Pistons. Alex Kennedy: There was a report that Monroe tanked the workout but everything I have heard said just the opposite. I heard it went well and the source I talked to had no idea where that came from. Also, if Sacramento trades down I think they're going lower than seven. They're looking at players projected in the late teens and early twenties this Wednesday." That was the only link i could remember, but i saw it another place too. Now I cannot believe for the life of me that Chad Ford gooned up an update? He's the "pulse" of the draft.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 22, 2010 2:27:59 GMT -5
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Post by hoya91 on Jun 22, 2010 3:02:19 GMT -5
Reading through the thread, is it fair to summarize as follows?: Greg will go either #5 to Sacramento or #6 to GS? (Decision is between Greg and Demarcus Cousins for both teams)
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 22, 2010 7:23:57 GMT -5
We know Greg. No way he "tanked" anything.
Based on all we've read, it sound like #5 or #6 for Greg, similar to Jeff.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jun 22, 2010 8:47:52 GMT -5
We know Greg?? hmm I dont know him personally....
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Post by superan on Jun 22, 2010 8:54:59 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS: Greg Monroe is not in Doug Gottlieb's Top 10
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jun 22, 2010 9:06:24 GMT -5
I don't think it is definite. If Sacto takes Cousins (somewhat expected), Golden State may take a wing like Aminu and Greg could fall to the Pistons or further...you never know what could happen. I don't think he is falling to Utah, but I wouldn't be upset if he did. So he gets a couple 100K less than the sixth pick, not a big deal -- better for him to have early success and pick up a big second contract, or at least that is the conventional thinking, no?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 9:55:54 GMT -5
it seems pretty clear he won't go below 6th at this point. It may not be GS picking at 6 because someone may move up to get him, but i think he's gone by 6.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 22, 2010 11:52:52 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS: Greg Monroe is not in Doug Gottlieb's Top 10 MORE BREAKING NEWS: Gottdweeb is in no one's top 10 for anything. At least not anything worthwhile.
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Post by RBHoya on Jun 22, 2010 12:19:23 GMT -5
The best case would be that Utah sees he'll be off the board and moves up 3-4 slots to grab him. I think it'd be really good to see him go to Utah because I think he'll do well there. He can grab some of the minutes vacated by Boozer and he'll have a point guard who is capable of making everybody around him better. Plus I'd enjoy having another team to root for come playoff time (in addition to OKC).
Warriors might be ok, they have some good young pieces. Not sure if he makes sense with Anthony Randolph though, another 6'10 lanky lefty power forward. Maybe they could play together since Golden St plays small ball, but not sure. Hope he doesn't end up in Detroit though, as they are clearly a team in decline IMO.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 22, 2010 16:25:50 GMT -5
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 22, 2010 17:20:06 GMT -5
Warriors might be ok, they have some good young pieces. Not sure if he makes sense with Anthony Randolph though, another 6'10 lanky lefty power forward. I think the comparisons to Randolph are as overblown as those comparisons to Odom. Randolph weighs about 100 pounds so to refer to both him and Greg as "lanky" does a disservice to Greg. Greg already has a body that can at least bang around with with NBA power forwards. Randolph barely look strong enough to hold up against NBA small forwards (which is his more natural position). Besides Randolph's game is based mostly on his quickness and explosive athleticism.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 22, 2010 17:26:20 GMT -5
All I see is Ryan Blake. ;D
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jun 22, 2010 17:39:48 GMT -5
hahah one of the comments said he'd rather his team take Gordon Hayward... what a joke...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 22, 2010 17:47:29 GMT -5
fans who want aldrich over greg make me hit my head against the wall.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 22, 2010 18:59:28 GMT -5
Warriors might be ok, they have some good young pieces. Not sure if he makes sense with Anthony Randolph though, another 6'10 lanky lefty power forward. I think the comparisons to Randolph are as overblown as those comparisons to Odom. Randolph weighs about 100 pounds so to refer to both him and Greg as "lanky" does a disservice to Greg. Greg already has a body that can at least bang around with with NBA power forwards. Randolph barely look strong enough to hold up against NBA small forwards (which is his more natural position). Besides Randolph's game is based mostly on his quickness and explosive athleticism. Where do these comparisons come from? Oh, I know, Monroe is like Randolph because they are both tall. How about Rashard Lewis, isn't Monroe like him, also? Please. I'm with you, MCI. Randolph is a tall small forward.
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Post by RBHoya on Jun 22, 2010 19:28:13 GMT -5
I think the comparisons to Randolph are as overblown as those comparisons to Odom. Randolph weighs about 100 pounds so to refer to both him and Greg as "lanky" does a disservice to Greg. Greg already has a body that can at least bang around with with NBA power forwards. Randolph barely look strong enough to hold up against NBA small forwards (which is his more natural position). Besides Randolph's game is based mostly on his quickness and explosive athleticism. Where do these comparisons come from? Oh, I know, Monroe is like Randolph because they are both tall. How about Rashard Lewis, isn't Monroe like him, also? Please. I'm with you, MCI. Randolph is a tall small forward. Um, k, nobody compared their games or even compared them at all. Not like I was trying to find an NBA comparison for Greg and landed on Randolph. The point is that if Greg went to GS at 6, he and Randolph would undoubtedly be battling for PT. Randolph is pretty much universally considered a power forward, even if he is a "finesse" 4, and to my knowledge never gets minutes at the 3 for Golden State, who generally play a very small style (when he's healthy that is). Randolph has a crazy high ceiling and supposedly he has been looking good (and a bit stronger) this offseason. And he's only 21. If he ever puts it all together and figures out how to harness his crazy physical gifts, he's a star. And I doubt that both he and Greg would play at the same time, especially while Nelly is there, unless they really want to go small and have nobody physical out there. FWIW they have Brandon Wright as well, yet another 6'10 lanky PF with a high ceiling who they spent a draft pick on. Just to clarify before people start giving me , that does NOT imply that Greg is AS lanky as either of these guys or that they all have the same game etc etc etc. Just that they've gone PF a few times in the last few years and that if Warriors management thinks that guys like Wright/Randolph can get their act together or start to play up to their potential, then Greg isn't really a need pick for them.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 22, 2010 20:41:38 GMT -5
RB, I may be wrong here, but I thought MCI was referring to scouts who compared Greg to Randolph (and Odom), not you. I certainly didn't read what you wrote to be comparing Greg to Randolph.
Personally, given the Warriors' style of play, if they draft Greg, I see him competing with Biedrins and my old friend Rony Turiaf for minutes, as I think he would be more likely to play the 5 than the 4. Oh, and, as of today, Dan (stiff) Gadzuric, who fits the Warrior style not in the least. Since Magette has been moved, I wonder if the Warriors are contemplating playing Randolph more at the 3, which is where I think he would play for practically any other team.
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