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Post by btfhoya on Mar 19, 2010 1:00:22 GMT -5
He wont...because he isnt coming to Gtown. Thats my point.
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royski
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Post by royski on Mar 19, 2010 1:02:40 GMT -5
He wont...because he isnt coming to Gtown. Thats my point. God forbid we miss out on a project big man who is unranked by most/all recruiting services...
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Post by btfhoya on Mar 19, 2010 1:05:35 GMT -5
Last time I checked...we had no big man bench depth...so ya...god forbid we get a freshman big.
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Post by btfhoya on Mar 19, 2010 1:06:30 GMT -5
A big we lose to Indiana...which is embarassing.
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Post by royski on Mar 19, 2010 1:09:15 GMT -5
A big we lose to Indiana...which is embarassing. Monroe, Vaughn, Benimon, Lubick, Sims and we're in serious play for Maurice Walker. How many bigs do you want us to have? 7?
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Post by btfhoya on Mar 19, 2010 1:18:11 GMT -5
Monroe is gone. Vaughn is okay but didnt overwhelm me this year. He played good in his 5th role in the offense/defense. Benimon is a liability on offense and defense. Sims is also a liability who looks LOST in JT3's system as a sophomore. Lubick is a freshman and I have only seen clips of him play and heard what the scouts say....but all that leads me to believe he is a role player with upside. I hope he is good cause we are going to need it.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 19, 2010 1:43:05 GMT -5
I must have missed Greg's announcement that he's going pro. Where can I find it, btfhoya? Please post a link
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Post by btfhoya on Mar 19, 2010 1:44:24 GMT -5
Its in the denial section of GUhoyas.com.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 19, 2010 1:58:38 GMT -5
I thought it was in the "no announcement has been made one way or the other" section. Why don't you and others let things shake out before predicting your doomsday scenarios.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Mar 19, 2010 7:03:41 GMT -5
if greg stays, we COULD be a final 4 team...IF this group buys into playing defense and rebounding consistently. if greg leaves, i can't see any way we make the tournament. he is the only player we have even remotely interested in rebounding. vaughn drives me insane with his soft play defensively and questionable shot selection. benimon is useless if he is not defending and rebounding. we play 4-5 offensively when he's on the floor. henry just doesn't seem to get it.
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Post by adlai on Mar 19, 2010 8:33:48 GMT -5
Whether Greg comes back or not, I am proud he chose to spend his college career as a Hoya. As much as people want to blame him last night, he put up 19 points, 13 boards, and 6 assists. He had a number of turnovers as well, but that was not a particularly poor game. Bottom line is that his numbers were similar to those in the three BE tourney wins, so I have a hard time understanding why he is the scape goat.
I must say that I have truly enjoyed watching him play both years he has been at G'town. There are some things he can work on as there are for any college player, but a player with his strengths is great to watch. I love how excited he was after getting 12 assists on Provy. I loved watching him bread down Duke and dominate Nova. He was fabulous in the BE tourney win over Syracuse. Bottom line is he had many memorable performances.
In the end, I also love that he loves being in college and more importantly being a Hoya. He didn't have to come back last year and most said he shouldn't have. Given his life circumstances, it would have been easy to leave last year, but he wanted to stay. I'm really sorry for him that the year didn't end better. While he could come back, I really wish that if he didn't this year had ended differently for him. As hard as it is for fans, I'm sure it's much harder for him and the team.
I also think it's quite disappointing to entirely judge his career by two early post-season exists. The NCAA tourney is a crapshoot which is what makes it great and makes it so frustrating at the same time. One traveling call could easily have ended our 2007 run after the Sweet 16. The loss wasn't his fault and Greg should be remembered for the great things he did for us this year and hopefully those he will do for us next year. Either way, one fluke game isn't the sum of his or our team's season.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 19, 2010 8:38:03 GMT -5
I agree.... Whether Greg comes back or not, I am proud he chose to spend his college career as a Hoya. As much as people want to blame him last night, he put up 19 points, 13 boards, and 6 assists. He had a number of turnovers as well, but that was not a particularly poor game. Bottom line is that his numbers were similar to those in the three BE tourney wins, so I have a hard time understanding why he is the scape goat. I must say that I have truly enjoyed watching him play both years he has been at G'town. There are some things he can work on as there are for any college player, but a player with his strengths is great to watch. I love how excited he was after getting 12 assists on Provy. I loved watching him bread down Duke and dominate Nova. He was fabulous in the BE tourney win over Syracuse. Bottom line is he had many memorable performances. In the end, I also love that he loves being in college and more importantly being a Hoya. He didn't have to come back last year and most said he shouldn't have. Given his life circumstances, it would have been easy to leave last year, but he wanted to stay. I'm really sorry for him that the year didn't end better. While he could come back, I really wish that if he didn't this year had ended differently for him. As hard as it is for fans, I'm sure it's much harder for him and the team. I also think it's quite disappointing to entirely judge his career by two early post-season exists. The NCAA tourney is a crapshoot which is what makes it great and makes it so frustrating at the same time. One traveling call could easily have ended our 2007 run after the Sweet 16. The loss wasn't his fault and Greg should be remembered for the great things he did for us this year and hopefully those he will do for us next year. Either way, one fluke game isn't the sum of his or our team's season.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 19, 2010 8:39:44 GMT -5
How so.............? A big we lose to Indiana...which is embarassing.
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Post by tjm62 on Mar 19, 2010 8:55:19 GMT -5
Monroe is gone. Vaughn is okay but didnt overwhelm me this year. He played good in his 5th role in the offense/defense. Benimon is a liability on offense and defense. Sims is also a liability who looks LOST in JT3's system as a sophomore. Lubick is a freshman and I have only seen clips of him play and heard what the scouts say....but all that leads me to believe he is a role player with upside. I hope he is good cause we are going to need it. Nate Lubick a role player with upside? He's ranked in the top 10 at his position across national rankings!
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Post by tjm62 on Mar 19, 2010 8:57:29 GMT -5
Also, on Greg, I think he will be a very good NBA player, and it reflects very well on Georgetown that he chose to come here.
I remember how excited I was when he visited for Midnight Madness and stayed at the Village A Apartment across from mine. He has been dynamic from Day 1, and though I hope he returns, I will always wish him the best. Great guy.
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Post by krukster201 on Mar 19, 2010 9:05:24 GMT -5
The chippies that Benimon seems to always miss ... those will be dunks when Lubick is in that position. This I know .. the kid can finish and loves contact. He ripped each and every elite big he faced last spring/summer and I expect him to continue to play like a beast when he gets here. I look forward to watching him develope on this level. Not saying he'll be a star from day one , but he has that "I WILL NOT LOSE " attitude and I think we need that badly. Add him to this team we have now and subtract about 3 or 4 loses - imo.
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Post by krukster201 on Mar 19, 2010 9:07:29 GMT -5
OH and I actually watched him play live , so I'm not going off of what has been said around the internet. The kid is a winner!
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 19, 2010 9:09:13 GMT -5
anything that will mean less playing time for benimon is a positive in my book.
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Post by krukster201 on Mar 19, 2010 9:28:58 GMT -5
I think 2 yrs from now , we'll all be able to appreciate Benimon a whole lot more. I don't blame him for being thrown to the tigers , I just expect him to continue to work VERYYYYYYYY HARD. He was somewhat in over his head. Not a knock at all .. and the experience was great for him.
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Post by jagtrader on Mar 19, 2010 10:27:00 GMT -5
If the NCAA protected its big men, I could see a better case for Monroe returning. Instead, he's looking at 30 games of getting clutched, grabbed and shoved and then getting ticky-tack calls on defense that force him to sit out long stretches of games. Unfortunately, that's the way it works in college basketball.
Look at the St. Mary's-Richmond game: Samhan had 29 points and 12 rebounds in 28 minutes, but was whistled for three first-half fouls and got to the line less often than Scottie Freakin Reynolds.
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