DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Feb 25, 2010 20:54:20 GMT -5
Move this thread wherever you think it belongs, but I just thought that all the Hoya basketball fans would be interested to see that the player we all believed most overrated last year and in the draft has become the highest ever draft pick sent to the NBADL. Perhaps Roy and Greg schooling him weren't just great games by our guys, but a sign that being really tall isn't enough to be a great center. sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av3_eb73PO3CK28g_CaQZ1U5nYcB?slug=ys-thabeetdleague022510&prov=yhoo&type=lgnsAs little as was thought of last year's draft class, it's still hard to believe that at #2, the Grizzlies missed out on Tyreke Evans, Brandon Jennings, Jonny Flynn, Stephon Curry, or James Harden. How did Thabeet get taken 2nd and DeJuan Blair was a 2nd rounder? |
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Feb 25, 2010 21:09:21 GMT -5
They missed out on Evans because they had O.J. Mayo
They missed out on Curry because they had O.J. Mayo
They missed out on Harden because they had O.J. Mayo
They missed out on Flynn because they had Mike Conley, who is exactly what they need at the point, a great distributer who just wants to run the team
You can easily criticize them, but it's hard argue that the Grizz drafted for need. Thabeet just happens to stink
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 25, 2010 21:11:42 GMT -5
in the immortal words of Nelson Muntz: HA HA
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Post by sleepy on Feb 25, 2010 21:35:15 GMT -5
Can we say Luther Wright?
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Post by CTHoya08 on Feb 25, 2010 21:47:39 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you saw Blair being a much better pro than Thabeet. (Hand raised.)
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Feb 25, 2010 21:53:54 GMT -5
They missed out on Evans because they had O.J. Mayo They missed out on Curry because they had O.J. Mayo They missed out on Harden because they had O.J. Mayo They missed out on Flynn because they had Mike Conley, who is exactly what they need at the point, a great distributer who just wants to run the team You can easily criticize them, but it's hard argue that the Grizz drafted for need. Thabeet just happens to stink I thought the same thing at first daytona, but then I looked at their roster: PG - Mike Conley SG - OJ Mayo SF - Rudy Gay PF - Zach Randolph C - Marc Gasol They actually didn't need Thabeet with Randolph and Gasol. Thabeet was going to be a bench player no matter what, just like anyone else they drafted. That's a solid starting lineup -- very young (outside of Randolph) but solid enough to put them strongly in the playoff hunt this year. I understanding drafting for need, but once they traded for Randolph, that need wasn't there. If you are drafting for bench, then you draft the best player available and hope that he's good enough to push for the starting lineup in the near future. You can't tell me, you wouldn't have to strongly consider whether Flynn, Evans, or Jennings would start over Conley at PG in a year or so? And that's not even considering that Ricky Rubio was there too and we're not sure what he will become (though considering his stay in Spain, maybe that wasn't a bad decision). Harden was arguably the 2nd best player at the time of the draft, which is why I included him, though you are right, Mayo is probably the most untouchable player in that starting lineup for now (depends on if Gay leaves in free agency or not). And though I looked back at last year's draft, there were no good bigs besides Griffen and Blair who was not going to be drafted #2. So do I totally blame the Grizzlies considering what the draft looked like at the time? No. But anyone who had watched the Hoyas-Huskies games the last few years, could have told you that Thabeet was not going to be a star NBA player or even a Mutombo-super diet lite, which is what they were hoping for. |
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Feb 25, 2010 21:55:42 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you saw Blair being a much better pro than Thabeet. (Hand raised.) Honestly, I don't know how the pros so underestimated Blair when you look at the success that many undersized PFs have been having recently. It's like they talked themselves out of it just before the draft because of his "knee issues." |
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Post by richfame on Feb 25, 2010 23:24:33 GMT -5
I hate to say I told you so, But I know thabeet would not be a career nba player. Guy was a stiff at uconn his first few years, serviceable final year.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Feb 25, 2010 23:38:37 GMT -5
It is no great feat to recognize this guy as a stiff. He was always soft in college, and it was only reinforced when he allowed the bigs on MSU to beat him up. Look at the Roy Hibbert v. Thabeet games - they weren't close head to head.
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Post by wrestlemania on Feb 26, 2010 0:22:36 GMT -5
Who is Hamed Haddadi? Is he related to Hamed Hadoudi? (Simpsons reference -- guess the episode)
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 26, 2010 7:20:50 GMT -5
AMBASSADOR i had debates here on hoya talk with posters that said he was going to be an awesome pro. I agree with your post of course ambasssador.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 7:58:50 GMT -5
Richframe is correct. I remember those debates well, especially because I was on the wrong side.
Jerry
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 26, 2010 12:34:37 GMT -5
I never thought he'd be awesome, but I thought he'd be much better than this -- at least a good enough defensive player to stay on a roster.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 26, 2010 13:00:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't give up on Thabeet yet. He may reach the Michael Olawakandi level before he's through.
Seriously, I think some of this Grizz bashing smacks a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking, in that Evans and Jennings in particular were taking lots of heat around draft time, and there was serious doubt whether either would be a serviceable pro. I certainly wouldn't be critical of Memphis for not using the number two pick on either of them. So that leaves Harden, Flynn, Rubio and Curry. Because Harden plays the same position as Mayo, that would have been an unlikely choice. I love Curry (curse him), so I think that would have been the best choice, since it is likely that Memphis would have faced the same problem with Rubio that Minnesota faced.
As for Blair, yeah, it's the knees. But seeing him land in San Antonio almost drove me to drink. I knew that the Lakers didn't intend to pick anyone in this draft, but when Blair was still out there when it came time for them to draft, I was yelling "pick Blair" at my computer. Blair is probably my second favorite college player of the last five years, after Jeff Green.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Feb 27, 2010 0:04:04 GMT -5
Thank for the honesty Jerry you are a good guy. But to be honest even I thought he woudlnt be in the D League so quickly.. I figured he be a journey man for at least 4-5 years. So I guess none us 100 percent correct.
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Post by tubasaxa on Apr 1, 2010 14:06:17 GMT -5
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