SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 7, 2009 14:54:15 GMT -5
Anyone watch Giants v. Dallas yesterday? Did you see Flozell come up behind Jason Tuck at halftime, well after play had stopped, and shove him to the ground? This is the latest in a long series of bad behavior on the part of Flozell. Not just against the Giants. What a loser. Deserves at least a one game suspension. sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=4722023And, by the way, Dallas needs a new coach, but one who will actually be in charge. Seems like it will never happen as long as Jerry Jones is trying to replace Al Davis and Dan Snyder as most meddlesome owner.
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vcjack
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Post by vcjack on Dec 7, 2009 15:00:23 GMT -5
Absolutely not, if he's out then we can't play the Flozell drinking game:
False starts = drink Multiple false starts on the same drive = drinks x # Holding = Drink but switch hands Tripping = Finish and do a quick spin
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PhillyHoya
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Post by PhillyHoya on Dec 7, 2009 15:18:08 GMT -5
Flozell is a punk. He pushed Justin Tuck earlier this season causing him to fall and sprain his shoulder. He deserves at least a game now. I think he got $50K for the earlier hit.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Dec 7, 2009 15:55:06 GMT -5
It doesn't matter. December has arrived and they're done winning.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Dec 7, 2009 23:49:50 GMT -5
It's EXPLETIVE football--and OL/DL should NOT get along. If it gets chippy--good.
The fact this has it's own thread is just more proof of how lame the NFL is and how far from being physical the league is moving. Next thing--if you "push" a player down you'll get a suspension. UNREAL.
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jgalt
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Post by jgalt on Dec 8, 2009 0:00:00 GMT -5
Hes a thug and terrible for Dallas because of all the penalties, but hasnt done any ONE thing that is suspension worthy (maybe, maybe taken all together, but only maybe)
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 8, 2009 8:20:03 GMT -5
It's EXPLETIVE football--and OL/DL should NOT get along. If it gets chippy--good. The fact this has it's own thread is just more proof of how lame the NFL is and how far from being physical the league is moving. Next thing--if you "push" a player down you'll get a suspension. UNREAL. Shoving a guy in the back after the half has ended has nothing to do with football. Consistently kicking opponents -- like a little girl -- also has nothing whatsoever to do with football.
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757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Dec 8, 2009 9:18:03 GMT -5
A thug? Wow!
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Dec 8, 2009 12:21:38 GMT -5
It's EXPLETIVE football--and OL/DL should NOT get along. If it gets chippy--good. The fact this has it's own thread is just more proof of how lame the NFL is and how far from being physical the league is moving. Next thing--if you "push" a player down you'll get a suspension. UNREAL. Shoving a guy in the back after the half has ended has nothing to do with football. Consistently kicking opponents -- like a little girl -- also has nothing whatsoever to do with football. When you are 6'7 330+ and juiced on Performance Enhancers and facing off against a team with DL who are doing the same, you better expect some aggressiveness and dirty play. Playing dirty is part of sports--especially line play in football. How many times has Adams "kicked" someone? Honestly? I mean you sound like a Giants fan who is mad because someone has a history with YOUR favorite team. This game needs more aggression and violence--not less and it's why people like the sport to begin with. I'd take a fight before halftime over the grab ass lovefests you see between most players who should be trying to knock each other around. Cowboys and Giants should NOT get along. There should be tension and if that means you get shoved, kicked, bit, etc...so be it. That's a helluva lot more fun to watch then most of the crap that NFL promotes where you can't touch a QB, can't touch a WR, can't hit someone away from the ball (which is a joke because those players are usually running to try and get involved into the play and #1 rule in the game is keep your head on a swivel) and it's just comes down to what you like/don't like or in your case--who you like/don't like as a team or player.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 8, 2009 12:42:57 GMT -5
Sounds like RDF would favor Rollerball. ;D
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Dec 8, 2009 14:07:16 GMT -5
Playing dirty is part of sports--especially line play in football. How many times has Adams "kicked" someone? Honestly? I mean you sound like a Giants fan who is mad because someone has a history with YOUR favorite team. Well Adams got fined the first three games of the year - nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/30/flozell-adams-3-for-3-on-fines/ - for his actions vs. Tuck and two other players including kicking Julius Peppers. And shoving someone who isn't looking from behind isn't chippy or dirty, it's cowardly and stupid. Adams and Dallas will do their thing and lose three of four to miss the playoffs, so they get to extend their not winning a playoff game streak past 1,000 games. While the "nobody" who Adams attacked from behind for no reason gets to go home at night and look at his Super Bowl ring.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Dec 8, 2009 15:27:07 GMT -5
Playing dirty is part of sports--especially line play in football. How many times has Adams "kicked" someone? Honestly? I mean you sound like a Giants fan who is mad because someone has a history with YOUR favorite team. Well Adams got fined the first three games of the year - nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/30/flozell-adams-3-for-3-on-fines/ - for his actions vs. Tuck and two other players including kicking Julius Peppers. And shoving someone who isn't looking from behind isn't chippy or dirty, it's cowardly and stupid. Adams and Dallas will do their thing and lose three of four to miss the playoffs, so they get to extend their not winning a playoff game streak past 1,000 games. While the "nobody" who Adams attacked from behind for no reason gets to go home at night and look at his Super Bowl ring. What's your point? I'm not a Cowboy fan and one of the few here who keeps telling people who celebrate wins over them that they suck, just think Adams is being singled out for basically playing how most people play. They got in a fight due to him behaving "cowardly" so be it--it's a fight and he started it in front of the Giant bench--in the Meadowlands, so while you can say it's ignorant, etc......I'd hardly call it cowardly and it's good. My favorite games to watch involve people/teams who despise each other. There is nothing like the added tension of not just pulling for your team or a team you like more then other, but also the pure hate they have for each other. It means the game matters to everyone involved and honestly--in most Pro sports games--you can't say that. These guys are so quick to smile, giggle, make jokes, and rush over to be "friends/buy Pro Bowl Votes" that it's sickening. I hate the Tom Brady "rule" and I'm a Brady/Pats fan. I hate the "hitting defenseless receiver rule" as I loved guys like Jack Tatum, Chuck Cecil, who would missile in and try to knock people out. That's why I fell in love with the sport--the violence and dislike for opponents and when I played--it was a way of assaulting another person without getting in trouble. Nothing like hitting someone so hard they lose air for a while. Everyone is different--and has reasons they like things but I enjoy competition and any opponent is someone I hate during competition. That only seems to happen in today's era when it's "personal"--which is sad because it used to be the way it was simply by taking the field/court/ice, whatever.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 8, 2009 16:07:44 GMT -5
RDF turns Mick Foley in a rec football league.
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njhoya06
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Post by njhoya06 on Dec 9, 2009 1:42:08 GMT -5
$50k will have to suffice
Well that and the knowledge he won't win a playoff game while he's on Dallas
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