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Post by Cambridge on Dec 3, 2009 17:53:30 GMT -5
Totally curious as a non-Catholic how the Church explains the Feast of Immaculate Conception falling on December 8th and Christmas falling on December 25th? Or is this the immaculate conception of Mary that is being celebrated? Very confused.
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Post by rosslynhoya on Dec 3, 2009 17:57:03 GMT -5
Yes, according to the Catholic faith, the Virgin Mary was born without original sin. She is the product of the Immaculate Conception.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 3, 2009 18:12:09 GMT -5
Yes, according to the Catholic faith, the Virgin Mary was born without original sin. She is the product of the Immaculate Conception. I figured it had to be something like that. A near 13 month gestation period would seem a little long - even for the Son of God. |
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Post by SoCalHoya on Dec 3, 2009 18:48:49 GMT -5
Also, most agree that Jesus was not actually born on December 25th. That date was picked by the early Church as a way to supplant pagan winter solstice festivals. And that seems to have worked pretty well, except for the Christmas tree thing.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 3, 2009 18:58:17 GMT -5
Also, most agree that Jesus was not actually born on December 25th. That date was picked by the early Church as a way to supplant pagan winter solstice festivals. And that seems to have worked pretty well, except for the Christmas tree thing. So what pagan holiday did they replace with the Feast of the Immaculate Conception? |
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Post by EasyEd on Dec 4, 2009 7:22:36 GMT -5
Feast of Annunciation (angel announcement to Mary that she is to be the Mother of God) is March 25.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Dec 4, 2009 16:43:25 GMT -5
The Feast of the Immaculate Conception is the reason why we will beat Butler next week.  |
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Post by JB5 on Dec 4, 2009 19:20:19 GMT -5
Also, most agree that Jesus was not actually born on December 25th. That date was picked by the early Church as a way to supplant pagan winter solstice festivals. And that seems to have worked pretty well, except for the Christmas tree thing. Good thing. It would have been tough for little Jesus to have his birthday so close to Hanukkah.  |
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Dec 7, 2009 14:40:51 GMT -5
Also non-Catholic & confused ... how was Mary born without original sin? Was it b/c she was destined to be the mother of Jesus?
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Post by hoyaalf on Dec 8, 2009 1:07:47 GMT -5
'How' is not an issue for an all powerful Deity.
It's 'why' and you got that in one, 2coast!
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Post by hoyaalf on Dec 8, 2009 1:09:21 GMT -5
BTW, 'destined' is not a word we like to use in the RCC.
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 8, 2009 10:38:32 GMT -5
BTW, 'destined' is not a word we like to use in the RCC. Hmmm, because of the value placed on free will? I get that. But, what about the conundrum of prophecy then? It seems to play a pretty strong role in the story of Jesus and the Bible in general. Is there a clear distinction between prophecy and destiny? I suppose I could see my way to some sort of distinction, but I think it would be largely semantic. Thoughts? |
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Post by Elvado on Dec 8, 2009 10:41:24 GMT -5
It will always be a largely semantic distinction. God gives man the free will to do as he chooses, knowing already how his weak little creation will choose.
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