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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 13:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Oct 23, 2009 14:11:47 GMT -5
Funny, I sense a very heavy Oakland Raider flavor.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 14:18:57 GMT -5
hee hee hee
On a serious note, I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Erik Berry is the first DB taken in the draft -- probably in the top 3 or 4 picks. There's no way in hell -- barring injury -- that he slips to anything like 13.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 23, 2009 14:37:29 GMT -5
It's just awful.
Top quarterbacks are Claussen and Locker, IMO. Bradford and Tebow are below them.
Safeties are rarely drafted that high, though.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 23, 2009 15:15:45 GMT -5
I agree that Tebow is way too high on that list. I think he will be successful at the next level, but not superstar. Bradford however, is still pretty high on most lists. Most "experts" say that his type of injury is unlikely to cause extended issues and that taking the rest of the year off will allow it to heal. Personally, I have always thought that he was a bit overrated to begin with, excelling with a very talented team of players around him, playing primarily teams that don't play good defense. But I do like both Locker and Clausen, even though it pains me to say anything good about Notre Dame.
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Post by Buckets on Oct 23, 2009 17:03:50 GMT -5
I agree that Tebow is way too high on that list. I think he will be successful at the next level, but not superstar. He's below average height and his throwing motion would be better described as a "windup" than "release." And Eric Berry will, in all likelihood, be the highest drafted safety ever. |
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Post by whatmaroon on Oct 23, 2009 17:29:38 GMT -5
And Eric Berry will, in all likelihood, be the highest drafted safety ever. Eric Turner, 1991, #2 overall. |
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Oct 26, 2009 10:04:03 GMT -5
Sean Taylor at 5. Roy Williams at 8. I'm thinking he ends up somewhere in between #2 and #5 although this is unbelievable safety class.
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Post by redskins12820 on Oct 26, 2009 15:17:59 GMT -5
I don't even think Berry is the highest rated safety of THIS draft. What about Taylor Mays? I think Mays is significantly better
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Post by kchoya on Oct 26, 2009 15:42:46 GMT -5
I don't even think Berry is the highest rated safety of THIS draft. What about Taylor Mays? I think Mays is significantly better Both are pretty darn good. I don't think anyone can say one is "significantly" better than the other. |
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Post by Buckets on Oct 26, 2009 17:53:40 GMT -5
And Eric Berry will, in all likelihood, be the highest drafted safety ever. Eric Turner, 1991, #2 overall. Dammit I stopped checking back when I saw Drew Bledsoe's name. My bad, thought he only had to go above #5. He may still be taken as high as #2. As for Mays v. Berry, Mays is a physical freak but doesn't pick balls off and as hard as he hits, he only has one career forced fumble. Berry is something else with the ball in his hands and the Ed Reed comparisons work pretty well. |
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Post by whatmaroon on Oct 26, 2009 22:52:00 GMT -5
The team that chose Eric Turner #2 overall in 1991? That'd be the Cleveland Browns and their new head coach, Bill Belichick. Laron Landry also went 6th overall.
It wouldn't shock me to see neither Berry go outside the top 10, just because I'm not sure he grades out as an elite enough athlete. He certainly seems like he has Ed Reed-type instincts, but what makes Reed special is the instincts combined with the athleticism. Mays just seems like a bad football player. He'll get overdrafted on his athleticism and playing on a good team, just like every other USC player the past 4 years.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 26, 2009 22:55:22 GMT -5
Every other USC player the last few years? Half the NFL says hello.
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Post by hifigator on Oct 27, 2009 10:49:50 GMT -5
I'm sure you will just discount my comments as coming from "an SEC homer," but Eric Berry is excellent. It isn't "just" the explosiveness when he happens to end up with the ball. To me, it is more his instincts to be around the ball. He's just there all the time. I know some might consider that just as an offshoot of a scheme that allows him to freelance, and maybe there's some truth to that. But still, I hate Tennessee, but if you watch them play defense, it's rare that you can watch two consecutive plays and not see him around the ball carrier on at least one of them. Oh, and yeah, he isn't just "around" in the Deion Sanders kind of way either. Whatever NFL team I support would do very well to add him to the roster.
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