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Post by hifigator on Nov 24, 2009 13:44:25 GMT -5
rooter, if you'll notice the time of that post, it rather needless to say that I had "tried" alcohol beforehand.
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Post by TigerHoya on Nov 24, 2009 15:25:18 GMT -5
Sports by Brooks reporting Jerry Gray is leaving as a Redskins asst. to go coach at Memphis.
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Post by TigerHoya on Nov 24, 2009 21:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Nov 28, 2009 14:17:44 GMT -5
So Boise State essentially wraps up an undefeated regular season. They mentioned last night that they were a "young team" so I decided to check their depth chart.
Sweet pappy johnson, the list 52 different players on offense, defense, and special teams and THREE are seniors with only ONE being a starter! So when Petersen put out that "We'll play a game against anyone anywhere next year" challenge, he wasn't doing it blindly. They return 21-22 starters.
I guess what I'm saying is get tickets for that game against VA Tech at Fedex Field next year.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 28, 2009 23:41:14 GMT -5
Six GREAT college games this evening:
1. LSU in overtime over Arkansas, 33-30. Miles figured out the clock. 2. Stanford runs over, under and through ND in the Weis finale, 45-38. 3. Georgia holds off GTech, 30-24, but barely. 4. USC-UCLA (in progress) 5. BYU 26, Utah 23 in OT. 6. Mizzou 41, Kansas 39. Adios, Coach Mangino.
Honorable mention #1 from this afternoon: NC State 28, North Carolina 27.
Honorable mention #2: SMU over Tulane, 26-21. First seven win season for the Ponies since 1984.
So, if you picked Temple, SMU, and Stanford to be in bowls and Michigan, Kansas and (maybe) Notre Dame sitting home at the end of the season, consider it done.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 29, 2009 13:16:58 GMT -5
Six GREAT college games this evening: 1. LSU in overtime over Arkansas, 33-30. Miles figured out the clock. 2. Stanford runs over, under and through ND in the Weis finale, 45-38. 3. Georgia holds off GTech, 30-24, but barely. 4. USC-UCLA (in progress) 5. BYU 26, Utah 23 in OT. 6. Mizzou 41, Kansas 39. Adios, Coach Mangino. Honorable mention #1 from this afternoon: NC State 28, North Carolina 27. Honorable mention #2: SMU over Tulane, 26-21. First seven win season for the Ponies since 1984. So, if you picked Temple, SMU, and Stanford to be in bowls and Michigan, Kansas and (maybe) Notre Dame sitting home at the end of the season, consider it done. FCS 1-AA nomination - Montana 61, South Dakota State 48. The Griz were down 48-21 in the fourth quarter and score 40 unanswered points to win at home.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2009 14:54:30 GMT -5
Six GREAT college games this evening: 1. LSU in overtime over Arkansas, 33-30. Miles figured out the clock. 2. Stanford runs over, under and through ND in the Weis finale, 45-38. 3. Georgia holds off GTech, 30-24, but barely. 4. USC-UCLA (in progress) 5. BYU 26, Utah 23 in OT. 6. Mizzou 41, Kansas 39. Adios, Coach Mangino. Honorable mention #1 from this afternoon: NC State 28, North Carolina 27. Honorable mention #2: SMU over Tulane, 26-21. First seven win season for the Ponies since 1984. So, if you picked Temple, SMU, and Stanford to be in bowls and Michigan, Kansas and (maybe) Notre Dame sitting home at the end of the season, consider it done. FCS 1-AA nomination - Montana 61, South Dakota State 48. The Griz were down 48-21 in the fourth quarter and score 40 unanswered points to win at home. That's impressive and may I add that South Dakota State only gave up 16 pts at Minnesota and 7 of those were scored by the Defense.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 30, 2009 11:11:23 GMT -5
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 2, 2009 8:29:51 GMT -5
I know it's a few days after Thanksgiving, but I just wanted to say that I'm thankful that Friedgen is bad enough to keep a program in a fertile recruiting area in a weak conference consistently mediocre, but not bad enough to be fired. Keep it up, big guy - we're all counting on you.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 2, 2009 9:03:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't be throwing stones at Friedgen--the failure of Georgetown to recruit locally has been one of the major points of trouble for the Hoyas this decade. Next year's team has just four returning players from the DC area.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 2, 2009 11:08:54 GMT -5
No mention of Bowden's retirement yet? I thought hifi would be all over that story.
44 years of coaching, nearly 400 wins (4th best all-time), and only two losing seasons (one at WVU and one his first year at FSU). Two national titles (both controversial). Over 10,000,000 "dadgummits." It's been time for Bowden to go for a while, but the guy's had a hell of a career.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 2, 2009 11:40:24 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Dec 2, 2009 11:47:28 GMT -5
No mention of Bowden's retirement yet? I thought hifi would be all over that story. 44 years of coaching, nearly 400 wins (4th best all-time), and only two losing seasons (one at WVU and one his first year at FSU). Two national titles (both controversial). Over 10,000,000 "dadgummits." It's been time for Bowden to go for a while, but the guy's had a hell of a career. The stat that blew me away was what Wilbon mentioned on PTI yesterday: 14 straight years in the top FIVE! Even with all of the flaws in college football polls, many of which certainly worked to FSU's advantage, that's pretty incredible.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 2, 2009 12:15:26 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one brought that up yesterday. That was the hot topic all day locally. Apparently, there are no excuses. The kid screwed up. The part that's strange isn't that a 20 year old kid had too much to drink. Nor is it that he made the poor decision to get behind the wheel. The strange part about it is the timing. This wasn't Saturday night after beating arch-rival FSU. This was early Tuesday morning! In addition to classes and the sort, Tuesday is ALWAYS Meyer's most greuling practice and of course this week, we're preparing for the biggest game of the year -- the SEC Championship game. Honestly, I'll be somewhat surprised if he plays for us again at all. Most pundits thought he was going pro after this season either way. I haven't heard Dunlap say anything, but murmurs down here were that he takes too many plays off and gave every impression that he was sort of getting ready for the NFL all season. I wish him the best, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over his troubles.
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Post by theexorcist on Dec 2, 2009 12:23:56 GMT -5
No mention of Bowden's retirement yet? I thought hifi would be all over that story. 44 years of coaching, nearly 400 wins (4th best all-time), and only two losing seasons (one at WVU and one his first year at FSU). Two national titles (both controversial). Over 10,000,000 "dadgummits." It's been time for Bowden to go for a while, but the guy's had a hell of a career. Hifi, you can reply to this one and agree with me. I don't really like how his team's troubles with the law have been whitewashed. The story Stewart Mandel told was of Bowden telling everybody that Sebastian Janikowski was playing udner international rules and didn't need to be suspended - and everyone just laughing and agreeing with him. The ESPN story began with a portrait of him as a surrogate father and how he takes the team to church once a year. It's hero worship and I don't like it. At least Jimmy Johnson, who turned Miami into an outlaw program and didn't apologize for it, was honest. Don't give me Bowden saying "aw, shucks" and charm everybody in the room so that no one opens the closet with all the skeletons in it. The story about a program that gets close to an outlaw level, which included Bowden getting stripped of victories because of rampant cheating in FSU's athletics department, gets the shaft here.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Dec 2, 2009 13:05:40 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one brought that up yesterday. That was the hot topic all day locally. Apparently, there are no excuses. The kid screwed up. The part that's strange isn't that a 20 year old kid had too much to drink. Nor is it that he made the poor decision to get behind the wheel. The strange part about it is the timing. This wasn't Saturday night after beating arch-rival FSU. This was early Tuesday morning! In addition to classes and the sort, Tuesday is ALWAYS Meyer's most greuling practice and of course this week, we're preparing for the biggest game of the year -- the SEC Championship game. Honestly, I'll be somewhat surprised if he plays for us again at all. Most pundits thought he was going pro after this season either way. I haven't heard Dunlap say anything, but murmurs down here were that he takes too many plays off and gave every impression that he was sort of getting ready for the NFL all season. I wish him the best, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over his troubles. For what it's worth, my roommate, a Gator, says that Monday is a big bar night in Gainesville. I don't know if defensive linemen and fratboys run in the same circles at UF, and I'd think the team would want to lay low for the reasons you've mentioned, but maybe he just couldn't resist Monday night at the Swamp, or wherever.
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Post by hifigator on Dec 2, 2009 13:53:38 GMT -5
No mention of Bowden's retirement yet? I thought hifi would be all over that story. 44 years of coaching, nearly 400 wins (4th best all-time), and only two losing seasons (one at WVU and one his first year at FSU). Two national titles (both controversial). Over 10,000,000 "dadgummits." It's been time for Bowden to go for a while, but the guy's had a hell of a career. Hifi, you can reply to this one and agree with me. I don't really like how his team's troubles with the law have been whitewashed. The story Stewart Mandel told was of Bowden telling everybody that Sebastian Janikowski was playing udner international rules and didn't need to be suspended - and everyone just laughing and agreeing with him. The ESPN story began with a portrait of him as a surrogate father and how he takes the team to church once a year. It's hero worship and I don't like it. At least Jimmy Johnson, who turned Miami into an outlaw program and didn't apologize for it, was honest. Don't give me Bowden saying "aw, shucks" and charm everybody in the room so that no one opens the closet with all the skeletons in it. The story about a program that gets close to an outlaw level, which included Bowden getting stripped of victories because of rampant cheating in FSU's athletics department, gets the shaft here. Yeah, I do pretty much agree. On that Janikowski issue, Bowden said something like "sure, I believe in discipline, but I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face." That statement clearly showed that he put winning over discipline. It's one thing to look the other way ... to not dig around seeing if you find anything wrong. But when you are confronted with wrongdoing, to not respond with the proper discipline is entirely different. For those who don't know, Janikowski's stay in Tallahassee involved two different arrests for solicitation of prostitution, one count of attempted bribery, another dropped count of bribery and possession of a controlled substance -- no, I'm not a hypocrite, it was GHB. There was also another dropped charge which claimed that he spiked a girl's drink with "something." This was conspicuously close to his being caught with GHB in clear liquid form. Enough on that. As for your "aw shucks" comments, they are dead on as well. My mom worked for the Tallahassee Democrat, the local paper. She couldn't stand Booby's angelic image. He supposedly didn't drink, smoke or cuss. She knew for a fact that all three of those were false, although he did later give up smoking for health reasons. Now I'm not throwing stones from my glass house. I drink and enjoy a smoke of the right kind every now and then. And I've been known to use words that aren't appropriate in all company. But A: I'm not a public figure and more importantly, B: I don't deny it. In any case, that teflon coated clown rubbed more than a few of us the wrong way.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Dec 2, 2009 14:19:22 GMT -5
That statement clearly showed that he put winning over discipline. It's one thing to look the other way ... to not dig around seeing if you find anything wrong. But when you are confronted with wrongdoing, to not respond with the proper discipline is entirely different. Wait, are we talking about that 1/2 game suspension against Vanderbilt again?
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Post by hifigator on Dec 2, 2009 14:41:37 GMT -5
That statement clearly showed that he put winning over discipline. It's one thing to look the other way ... to not dig around seeing if you find anything wrong. But when you are confronted with wrongdoing, to not respond with the proper discipline is entirely different. Wait, are we talking about that 1/2 game suspension against Vanderbilt again? I hate to rehash this again, but I think we need to. Understand that virtually every player, aside from Mike Golic was understanding of the emotions that go on during the game. Additionally, the player from Georgia said it was no big deal and nothing that doesn't go on multiple times in every game. The part that made it look so strange to the casual eye was that Spikes wasn't involved in the actual play. Had he been in on the tackle then a little extra rough-housing that goes on wouldn't have looked all that odd. Biting, scratching and gouging goes on. Football is a dirty game. Don't get me wrong. I'm not justifying the actions, just pointing out that his actions weren't the abominal acts that they might first appear. Secondly, if you punch someone or kick someone, then you are suspended for the first half of the next game. That's the rule. So to presume that an attempted eye-gouging should automatically be something worse is dubious. As someone else put it, if you pick up a player and slam him down on the ground with your full weight on top of him, you might get 15 yards and get thrown out of the game and suspended for the first half of the next game. In any case, ulitmately, Spikes was suspended for a full game. Whether he came up with that on his own, or whether the coaching staff decided after announcing otherwise that a full game was warranted after all, we don't know for sure. But it really doesn't matter. The bottom line is that Spikes did something that is an unfortunate, but common part of the game. If you get caught, you get punished. And if anything, his punishment was arguably excessive. Now as to your likening that one act of emotion to the calculated and repetitive acts of an assortment of illegal activites from solicitation, bribery and GHB possession ... I'm still waiting for the fair comparison.
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Post by kchoya on Dec 2, 2009 16:22:25 GMT -5
That statement clearly showed that he put winning over discipline. It's one thing to look the other way ... to not dig around seeing if you find anything wrong. But when you are confronted with wrongdoing, to not respond with the proper discipline is entirely different. Wait, are we talking about that 1/2 game suspension against Vanderbilt again? I'm not defending Meyer on that one, but I don't think Florida needed Spikes in order to beat Vandy.
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