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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Aug 24, 2009 13:50:41 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Aug 24, 2009 15:28:08 GMT -5
Sad, indeed.
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Post by FormerHoya on Aug 24, 2009 15:53:04 GMT -5
Am I awful because I think it's hilarious that this whole thing started because he wanted to post a picture of his "SuperCool Beas" back tattoo? If there is any indication of a problem, this is it.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 24, 2009 16:05:27 GMT -5
Haven't read the links yet, but I heard them talking about it on the afternoon show a bit. He was supposedly fined $50,000 at last year's rookie camp? I missed that, but that kind of fine isn't normally lofted around will-nilly. For what it's worth, the local host was quick to point out that Beasley was significantly better in the second half of the season. I sensed a degree of implication in that comment -- hopefully for the better, for sure.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 24, 2009 16:16:03 GMT -5
First things first, I do not have ANY inside information. My words are coming from gut instincts and first hand experiences dealing with a number of people in my life. I don't think for a minute that this is about weed. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that. My hunch -- and it's no more than a hunch -- is that a young impressionable kid, suddenly blessed with wealth almost beyond imagination, succumbed to the temptations of something much, much stronger. I'm not going to speculate beyond that.
The article did mention that the photo also showed a bag on a table next to him, the contents of which were unclear. Did anyone see that photo before the account was taken down? If so, was it weed looking or more like coke/meth/heroin? Just curious, since I didn't see the photo.
Secondly, my gut instinct is also that he felt like he was in a rut in Miami and that "his friends" really weren't. Maybe I am totally wrong, but I think he went to Houston with the thought in the back of his mind to check into the clinic there. I don't even know which clinic he is in, but John Lucas has a very prominent rehab center in Houston, specifically designed for athletes and other people of noteriety.
If I am right, then I think that it is good that he is trying to help himself. I hope he makes it through.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 24, 2009 16:22:21 GMT -5
Hifi's desperate attempt to exonerate his favorite herbal remedy aside, I don't think people often go to rehab for marijuana. So I assume it was something harder as well.
It's extremely sad. I've never been a fan of Beasley's (not not a fan, either), but I can't help but think back to a kid my age who was drafted by the Marlins (1st rounder). I played against him in Little League -- he was a tremendous talent. He never made it, and the word on the street was that he liked certain things more than hard work. He also got hurt -- so who knows, but it is a little sad to see talent squandered.
Beasley will get a TON of opportunities because of his talent, though.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Aug 25, 2009 6:06:33 GMT -5
Sorry to say it, but Beasley's been an accident waiting to happen for a some time. He's an example of guys who've been repeatedly given a pass because of their outstanding athletic talent -- to their detriment. He enrolled in or attended at least six high schools and developed a reputation for immature behavior. Now comes this. A very sad case.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 25, 2009 13:16:07 GMT -5
Hifi's desperate attempt to exonerate his favorite herbal remedy aside, I don't think people often go to rehab for marijuana. So I assume it was something harder as well. It's extremely sad. I've never been a fan of Beasley's (not not a fan, either), but I can't help but think back to a kid my age who was drafted by the Marlins (1st rounder). I played against him in Little League -- he was a tremendous talent. He never made it, and the word on the street was that he liked certain things more than hard work. He also got hurt -- so who knows, but it is a little sad to see talent squandered. Beasley will get a TON of opportunities because of his talent, though. 1. I'm glad you agree with me, AND admit it! 2. No "desperate" attempt here ... and thankfully, none needed. We are finally, FINALLY seeing movement in the right direction here. As we all know, California has legalaized medicinal use, as well as a certain amount of legal growing of weed. While this is still in contradiction to federal law, the Obama Administration has followed through on a plan which essentially says that the feds will look the other way, unless specifically called in on a different matter. Additionally, I think there are now 13 states with legalized medicinal use. Lastly, we are seeing serious movement towards decriminalizing weed and allowing small personal use amounts to avoid the waste of tax money in the form of incarceration and court time. I don't want to delve into this any further here, as this is neither the time nor the place, so suffice it to say that we are making some headway. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 25, 2009 15:15:01 GMT -5
Hifi, I don't necessarily disagree with you.
But your immediate running to the topic anytime anything is posted is somewhat transparent.
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Post by hifigator on Aug 25, 2009 16:03:13 GMT -5
SF, my point initially was to draw a distinction that I think is very important. In reading the article, his original $50K fine was for smoking weed and then hiding the fact that he was a basketball player. Now I've seen some excessive penalties before, but that's among the leaders in the clubhouse. In any case, given that the details haven't been released, I think it was poignant to at least point out that by all indications the recent events are a horse of an entirely different color. That being said, yes, I do take advantage of most opportunities to trumpet the cause.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 25, 2009 16:04:44 GMT -5
SF, my point initially was to draw a distinction that I think is very important. In reading the article, his original $50K fine was for smoking weed and then hiding the fact that he was a basketball player. Now I've seen some excessive penalties before, but that's among the leaders in the clubhouse. In any case, given that the details haven't been released, I think it was poignant to at least point out that by all indications the recent events are a horse of an entirely different color. That being said, yes, I do take advantage of most opportunities to trumpet the cause. The $50k penalty is part of the terms of his employment. He's paid millions of dollars and as part of that, he has some very detailed restrictions. If Beasley wanted to smoke pot all day, he start his own electronics store. Instead, he chose this job. |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Aug 25, 2009 16:25:58 GMT -5
SF, my point initially was to draw a distinction that I think is very important. In reading the article, his original $50K fine was for smoking weed and then hiding the fact that he was a basketball player. Now I've seen some excessive penalties before, but that's among the leaders in the clubhouse. In any case, given that the details haven't been released, I think it was poignant to at least point out that by all indications the recent events are a horse of an entirely different color. That being said, yes, I do take advantage of most opportunities to trumpet the cause. The $50k penalty is part of the terms of his employment. He's paid millions of dollars and as part of that, he has some very detailed restrictions. If Beasley wanted to smoke pot all day, he start his own electronics store. Instead, he chose this job. hahaah, burrrn! nice one SF. whenever i think of hifi and his "electronics" store, I think of Buck's Super Stereo World |
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Post by hifigator on Aug 25, 2009 16:30:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I'll meet you halfway on that one. As "high" as the $50K fine sounds based on the "crime," I do think that far too often the opposite happens. What is a $10,000 fine to someone making 7 1/2 Million a year? I have actually proposed significant fines if the goal is to actually deter an action. So even though I disagree with the substance here, I do see the reasoning and justification for such a fine.
As for your idea that those who run electronics stores smoke pot all day, I can only presume you have personal experience. I happen to be in that particular field and never smoke during the day. I do mention it occasionally however. In all honesty, I don't think I would during work, even if it were perfectly legal. It's part of the reason I don't like to partake on the road. It just makes everything seem to take so much longer. Why would I want my ride in a car or my day at the office to take any longer?
Now sitting around with some friends playing guitar or watching a game ... that's different. I cherish those times -- the longer they take the better.
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 25, 2009 20:16:37 GMT -5
LMAO at this thread.
That is all.
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